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Anonymous

They aren’t allowed to drink but I grant you that it is easier bec its sundown to sunset but 40 days is tough. All I’m saying is its one day. Its the least we could do considering our track records for the rest of the year.

Yanky55

I was referring to regular people who want to make fasting “easy” please don’t take me out of context thanks.

Hatzlacha with your Taanis.

Charlie

Oiberchuchems dont listen to reason.

blinky

Look at it this way. If your stomache grumbles you will think hey, why is it grumbling, then you will think oh because im not eating, then you will think why am I not eating, and then you will think oh because today is yom kippur and Hashem said that we should have 5 Inuyim and one of them is not to eat. I think that thought process will in itself bring you closer to Hashem.

Frankly I don’t know why people are looking to make the fast easier. There is an inyan of Inuy and if the fast is hard you get schar for that and its a kaparah for you as long as you have that in mind and aren’t miserable and looking at your watch waiting for the fast to end.

I hat to say this but if the Moslems can fast 40 days we can stop being such sissies and fast for one day without all these mishegassin!

artchill

Its ok, maybe I shouldnt have jumped on you, I wasnt speaking just for myself I just figured it seemed like an accusation on everyone here.

I certainly forgive you blev shalem just realize that not everybody feels your passion and not everybody is in a position to do something and many people are busy with many other worthy causes as well as taking care of their families (a worthy cause if there ever was one) so please dont be so tough on everyone.

I just watched a clip today about children with cancer, should I start screaming at everyone to donate millions of dollars to help those children? No I dont think that would be fair. They may not feel what I felt when I watched it and they may say well there are people starving Id rather help them….to each their own.

Im not saying that abuse is not a major problem, its huge and of paramount importance, but its very complicated and most people just dont know what to do and would rather not get involved because there are powerful people in the community on the side of the devil who can make life difficult for those trying to do something good as well as many Rabbanim saying we have it under control. This is a very complex issue.

Art”chill”

Your accusations are far from chilled. I dont know what YOU did for these children but dont assume nobody did anything. I think the crowd here is the type to do something if they know something. You need to give us an apology for assuming that we dont try for these kids. I know I did what I could.

Kol Haposel Bemumoi Posel. I wouldnt mind if the mods deleted this thread its so insulting.

emoticon613

Exactly. Certain gives us something to aspire to.

tzippi:

I include myself in saying we arent on the madreigah but im pretty sure and correct me if im wrong in Europe in the early 1900’s and certainly earlier most frum women went dressed basically the same way in relatively non flattering clothing. The truth is if all women went that way most men would not mind. A womens beauty is for her husband, she can and should dress up at home not on the street where everyone BUT her husband gets to look at and enjoy her beauty, fashion sense and all that. We live in a very upside-down backwards world where right is wrong and wrong is right and very little is as it should be.

SJSinNYC

The Chofetz Chaim had semicha although he got it later in his life because he needed it when he traveled for his passport to show he had a profession or something like that.

You know what would solve the problems although nobody would listen to me and Im only half seriously suggesting this and I know that we arent on the Madregah but its just a thought…

Just like yeshivah boys/kollel yungerman and Chasidim have a uniform, why cant girl out of high school also have a basic uniform? Ok I know its very boring and nobody would be maskim but it may actually solve the problem…just saying.

BP Totty

Actually building the chest throws the chest forward and makes ones posture worse. If anything one needs to build up the back and shoulder muscles. I have also read that a strong abdomen helps a lot in avoiding back pain and improving posture. So build up the back and abs.

SJSinNYC

“But a woman wearing a less clothing than halacha requires because its hot out?”

Oh so if its hot in your house on Shabbos you turn on the ac yourself? But its hot! Do you turn on the light because its dark in a room? But its dark! Do you eat in treif restaurants because it tastes better? Why does everybody wimp out of yiddishkiet these days?!

You think you are hot? Look at those chassidish men dressed in who knows how many layers and a hat!

so right

Exactly, why do women feel they have a right to walk around dressed improperly (non Jewish women included)?

Women ask why they are treated like objects, its very simple, dont treat yourself like an object and then men wont treat you like one. if you dress a certain way you communicate a certain message about who and what you are and if men stare well thats what you deserve.

Walk around for a few minutes a day with a book balanced on your head. It sounds funny but they say it works.

so right

You really think men are interested in those videos? They are for women and would bore most men. If men want to see something they shouldnt see theres plenty on the internet without bothering with this video. Please be realistic.

lol popa

charliehall

You dont sell your Chameitz?

charlie

No offense but it doesnt impress me much that a frum or mostly frum yid opted not to work on shabbos. Its not that impressive especially in this day and age and especially for a person who has plenty of other money making opportunities.

Washing the Body, taken from Halachically Speaking

http://www.thehalacha.com/attach/Volume3/Issue18.pdf

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The Shulchan Aruch rules that one may not heat up water on Yom Tov in order to wash his entire body, since

doing so is considered shoveh lechol nefesh. Since washing the whole body is not shoveh lechol nefesh, one Washing part of the body

One may use water which was heated up before Yom Tov to wash one limb at a time, even if he will end up

washing all of his body.11 Additionally, some poskim permit one to use water which was heated up on Yom Tov

to wash one limb at a time, as long as one does not end up washing most of the body, since washing most of the

body will be considered as if one washed the whole body (which is not shoveh lechol nefesh).12 However, if the

water was heated from before Yom Tov, we do not consider washing most of the body as washing the whole

body.

Does Shoveh Lechol Nefesh Change?

The poskim discuss whether or not shoveh lechol nefesh can change with time.13 In earlier times when houses

did not have indoor plumbing, people generally did not shower on a daily basis. Therefore, washing the whole

body was not considered shoveh lechol nefesh. The question is since most people today wash their whole bodies

(i.e. take a shower on a daily basis) is doing so considered to be shoveh lechol nefesh,14 or are the rules set

despite all this the gezeirah of chazal is still in effect and unchanged.15

Face, Hands, and Feet

As mentioned above, one is permitted to heat up water even on Yom Tov to wash his face, hands, and feet. Some

say one may only wash the face and not the entire head.16 When washing the hands, one may wash until the

elbow, and when washing the feet, one may wash until the ankle.17

One may not walk into a shower (even if he only intends to wash part of his body) since we are concerned that

he will come to wash his entire body.18 Therefore, if the limbs of the body which he is not allowed to wash are

covered with a garment, one may walk into a shower to wash the uncovered limbs.19 Alternatively, one may

stand outside the shower and stick his face, hands, and feet into the shower to be washed.

There is an uncertainty if a person who is very dirty may shower his entire body on Yom Tov.20

Modern Water Heaters (Boilers) on Yom Tov

Our modern water heaters work in the following manner.21 Water is heated up to a certain temperature at which

it is maintained automatically. When one uses hot water, new cold water enters the boiler causing the hot water

in the tank to cool that is detected by the thermostat, which then causes the flame to re-heat the water.

Accordingly, anytime one removes hot water on Yom Tov one causes new water to be heated up in its place.

Therefore, all hot water in our modern day boilers is considered to have been cooked on Yom Tov, since one

uses water on Yom Tov new water is getting cooked up in its place.22 Therefore, one would not be able to use

any water from a modern water heater to shower or wash most of the body on Yom Tov.

it is forbidden to cook up hot water for a shower on Yom Tov is because it is not shoveh lechol nefesh since only

an istinus needs one everyday. How then can such reasoning be used to permit a shower? This argument will

refute such statements even during a three-day Yom Tov.24

Children

Giving a child a bath or shower is only permitted where the water has been heated on Yom Tov for a permitted

purpose. One is then permitted to use such water to wash his child.25 However, placing the child into a bath or

shower with water that is heated up on Yom Tov specifically for the child is forbidden.26 One should consult his

local halachic authority whether water taken from a modern-day water heater is considered as having been

heated specifically for the child.

In any case, washing a child in the permitted manner may only be done if the child receives a bath on a daily

even if it will get wet.28

One who is very hot is permitted to take a cold shower on Yom Tov.29 One should not take a lukewarm shower

on Yom Tov since one has to turn on the hot water for this purpose, which is not permitted when one would be

washing his whole body.30

1 Sefer Shemos 12:16.

2 Refer to Rambam Hilchos Yom Tov 1:5, Shulchan Aruch 495:1, Rama, Pri Megadim Eishel Avraham 511:4, Shita Mekubetzes

3 Mesechtas Kesubos 7a.

(kuntres achron), Tosefta Chazzon Yecheskel Beitzah 2:7:page 76. See Chinuch mitzvah 298.

6 Pri Megadim Eishel Avraham 511:4. Refer to Bais Meir Y.D. 197:3.

7 Refer to footnote 4.

8 O.C. 511:2, see Mesechtas Beitzah 21b.

9 Tosfas ibid, Rambam ibid, Prisha 2, Shulchan Aruch 511:2, Levush 2, Magen Avraham 4, Taz 2, Sharei Teshuva 511, Sdei Chemed

Yom Tov 7:page 213, Mishnah Berurah 10. Refer to Betzel Hachuchma 2:31:pages 61-63.

Shulchan Aruch 511:2. The Rambam ibid says washing ones whole body is forbidden because of a gezeirah. (Refer to Taz 4, Levush

10 511:30.

Rivevos Ephraim 6:265, 8:248:1:page 276, Shulchan Shlomo 511:2:3. Some say even a shower once a week may be considered equal

to all (Shulchan Shlomo 511:footnote 3). Parenthetically a five minute shower uses about 15-25 gallons of water.

Eliezer 6:20, 11:64, Opinion of Horav Elyashiv Shlita quoted in Avnei Yushfei 3:55.

16 Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita.

17 Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita. Refer to Shulchan Shlomo 511:2:3:2.

18 Mishnah Berurah 9, Piskei Teshuvos 511:footnote 25, The Laws of Yom Tov page 201.

19 Natei Gavriel Yom Tov 31:2.

20 Refer to Shulchan Shlomo 511:2:3.

the fact that when one takes hot water from the tap etc he is making cold water get heated up since cold water enters when the hot

water leaves the water heater. Refer to Avnei Yushfei ibid if water cooked in a dud-shemesh common in Eretz Yisroel is considered

cooked on Yom Tov or before Yom Tov.

22 Based on a discussion with an expert in the field.

23 Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita.

24 Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita.

26 Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita, see Mishnah Berurah 9.

2:page 252 if one may give a child a bath if he is very dirty. The Avnei Yushfei 3:55 is lenient.

eswinter

Thanks and Tizku Lmitzvos!

Maybe Im wrong but I think that the only thing we can do is educate our children inside the home about whats right and wrong. Buy them books on Tznius and most importantly the mother has to be a good example of looking good while dressed Tznius.

It hurts me to say this but we have no Gedolim who have the power to do anything to change the situation. Im sure Rav Matisyahu Salomon can cry and scream until he is hoarse and at best a few people will listen and maybe dress differently for a few weeks.

The schools are not doing their jobs or what they are doing is just not working because its not enough. We need to fortify our homes.

I wrote this a few months back and I will say it briefly again. Our homes must be a sanctuary from the outside world. If we bring in the non Jewish shmutz like the news papers, magazines, music, tv, movies, novels….then we are polluting our senses and desensitizing our neshamos to purity and wholesome hashkafos ideas and ideals. A girl exposed to the junk of the non Jewish world (which is obsessed with sex and promiscuity) will automatically feel a pull towards untzniusdik dress. It will likely even be subconscious. She wont know why she wants it but she will want it strongly.

Its a huge problem but all I can say is that the people I know who are Tznius stay far away from the non Jewish shmutz media and entertainment.

You see my point is that untznius dress is not the cause of our problems its an effect of other actions. We need to cut things off at the root. The root is the connection to outside influences.

I may add that another powerful influence for a girl can be bad friends or friends who are headed that way and have started with the untzniusdig dress. So even a girl who has no access to non Jewish things (very UNcommon, there are “good” girls who read filthy novels that destroy their sensitivities) can still be influenced by bad friends. But it is highly probable that these girls themselves have been poisoned by non Jewish sources.

So bottom line if we want our kids to live up to a higher standard we have to live up to a higher standard an not allow certain things into our houses even for ourselves. The biggest hypocrites are the parents with the TV in the bedrooms who say “only for parents” most kids see right through that and lose all respect for the parents and frumkiet which they begin to see as fake and do whatever you want, make your own rules.

Kasha

I asked because I wanted to know, not that I needed a personal heter to enter one.