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Are you kidding? I thought that baby fingers was because it is not tznius to think about “lady fingers”. You’re telling me that they are two distinct items?

areivim, is this comment intended to tip me off to what I wrote that was so personal it had to be deleted? ‘cuz the post I was going to link to has disappeared.

I don’t even remember what I said. Was it really that bad?

Let me be more clear then.

I/we cannot decide to take someone off life support in any circumstance. If such a question arises, it is the duty of the next-of-kin to get a psak from a competent Rov. End of story.

I was talking about the issue that the world is facing about limited supply/unlimited demand for healthcare. My point was (is) that there will come a point where rationing will be a forefront issue, instead of a behind the scenes one as it is now. When that happens, the individual may not be able to decide to have a hospital dedicate resources to his/her relative just because he/she wants it that way.

Hashem Yishmor.

only by you, areivim, only by you.

moish, you have a good sense of humor. His life will be hell indeed!

The old joke goes like this:

Q: What is the punishment for suicide?

A: Life in prison

Q: What is the punishment for attempted suicide?

A: Hanging

The Niagara thing isn’t just because of suicide. People tried to go over in a barrel for the thrill (or whatever motivates idiocy). Not to commit suicide. Either way, it would be disruptive, so they ask people to please choose a different site.

ames, I never heard bitterness from you before. I’m sorry for the feelings I caused.

Jothar, you think she hit the nail on the head? Please!

I truly never heard anyone describe Yiddish as “another way to separate Jews”. SEPARATE JEWS??? Just the opposite – it unites Jews from all over the world. Unfortunately, not ALL Jews, but it is certainly not designed to exclude them. Read that again: Yiddish is NOT DESIGNED to EXCLUDE JEWS!!!!

Sephardim don’t natively speak Yiddish. And there’s no reason why they should have to learn it either. But I don’t understand resentment against the language. (I do understand why there is resentment against speaking Ivrit, though). Hey, we’re never going to have a universal language. We might get universal healthcare though.

The rules in the forum are now that Yiddish is forbidden. I am fine with complying with this. But please don’t take that resentment outside of these boards. And if YW wants to allow Yiddish in the future, I will have no problem traslating everything that I or some other poster types in Yiddish. In fact, I would enjoy doing so.

I myself did not grow up speaking Yiddish. Though I am a first generation American (perhaps because this), my parents never spoke to me in foreign languages. I learned it as I got older. Even now, I don’t speak Yiddish well – I can’t really keep up in conversation, but when I’m sitting at a computer you don’t know how long it takes me to come up with the words so it may seem like I’m fluent.

moish – because it looks less like a thingie in parenthesis when it is backwards (: 🙂

areivim, the punishment varied by society. Some dragged the body around and gave a disgraceful burial. Others penalized the relatives, by seizing assets of the deceased.

In Halacha, a suicide is considered worse than a murderer because there is no possibility of teshuva. A murderer may have regretted the deed for a moment before he died. A suicide can’t really do that.

liver, kidney and heart.

Drag and drop

GAW, you may pass.

Why wait for Joseph’s comment? Your first sentence says all that needs to be said.

Don’t forget to add this quote, to show that the US supported Israel’s stance:

<clockquote>

Hillary Clinton

Secretary of State

We support Israel’s right to self-defense. The [Palestinian] rocket barrages which are getting closer and closer to populated areas [in Israel] cannot go unanswered

Segulos do work. Getting a paying job is hishtadlus.

P.S. Don’t forget to stamp your feet while saying parshas haman (-:

YOU’RE curious? I thought it was only one sn per customer?

Good point, moish, but that is exactly the issue. Rationing is necessary because every individual thinks that they should get everything that is possible to get. But from a broader perspective, that is not always the most utilitarian choice (not that I am endorsing that point of view).

To give an example of rationing that goes on all the time, think of organ donation. There is a huge waiting list for organs. Hospitals have to prioritize people on the list – so people have to wait, sometimes for a long time, and sometimes they never get. Meanwhile, because of the current thinking in the medical field, the person whose need is the most immediate gets the first call, even if they may have no chance of surviving. Obviously, those people and their relatives think that they should get the organ, but is that really true? Wouldn’t it be “better use” to give it to someone who could resume normal life with a transplant, rather than someone who will be buried with the transplant in 3 months?

Well, I don’t know about how useful, but I do know you wouldn’t like what I had to say.

So why do we care about the injustice of cases like Terri Schiavo?

SJS, you bring up a good point about healthcare that is SCARY to think about. Ultimately, healthcare is and must be rationed. The need for rationing will only increase with time (as more people gain access). Not everyone can get all the healthcare they need, so the obvious question is, isn’t it a waste of care that could be applied to someone who could better use it???

moish, I did read it, but I didn’t think you’d want me to answer you. If you do, just let me know and I will post a reply in that thread.

99, that’s silly. The only people who are going to fall for that are the same ones who fell for the line about shutting down the random questions thread because the number 1000 would crash the server! The next mod will just choose a 3 digit number (gasp!) and you’ll be instantly and permanently outranked.

ames, you should be zoice, er I mean merit, to have so many children!

But moish, it wasn’t Yoreh Yoreh. So you’re not qualified for this.

186,000 miles per second? I believe that light goes a little faster than that. The difference is probably more than enough to earn you a speeding ticket or two (maybe even enough to outrun the cop, too).

qwerty – it was by accident.

moish, you’re a real card, you know that? 8^)