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“If a guy says no because you didn’t go to sem consider yourself lucky. You could’ve ended up married to the shmo.”
If a guy says yes because you went to sem consider yourself unlucky.
You could end up married to the “.
PAA:
(Eftachbchinor: I have been keeping to the mandate you gave me, but I think the mandate itself would mandate that I respond here.)
This, I assume?
A / 3 / ? / ?
Also, what Ivory (and, partially, Oomis) said,
and for intellectual stimulation.
Thanks for explaining that subtitle – I’d wondered about it.
PAA:
As far as I can tell, your post’s practical implications are that I should not make a certain bracha upon seeing the President of the United States or any member of the US’s judicial system.
It does not, however, tell me anything about the respect the Torah requires me to demonstrate (if any) for an official of a Western democratic government, whether in their presence or not.
Look at this:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/westboro-baptist-church/page/2#post-546250
After this thread (later time-stamp), in which he demonstrates that he is BP Yidd, he still tried to use this name to make it look like someone agreed with him about NK. LOL.
(At first I assumed he’d been blocked for that post, but then I checked the time-stamps to make sure.)
PAA:
I was genuinely surprised by your post, and managed to figure out what you were referring to without following the links (having already read the second link, I was familiar with the first one). Sorry about that. (Thanks for not mentioning the response(s) I owe you.)
(At least he didn’t say anything about me not actually being able to keep posters straight…)
“Leaves of Grass,” anyone? QED.
hashtagposter:
“moving back to the divorce question… I think that is even less thoughtful, because like I said it’s not a choice situation.”
When it comes to marriage, we must deal with people as they are, whether they could have chosen to be different or not.
(You can try listing the factors that determine who you would or would not consider going out with, and asking yourself if the guy had a choice about them.)
Lior:
It was a gag. Squeak was talking about it as though it was a marriage.
I partially disagree with Hashtagposter’s teacher’s principal.
I would not have said that they should not make a kabbalah at that time. Reacting to positive stimuli might well be useful in the future, but one does not dictate to Hashem the way in which He is to communicate with us, and not reacting to a negative stimulus is wasting it.
[realizes]
I need a good idea for a kabbalah.
Another case where there is no problem of ona’as d’varim – exposing someone as a troll is negative, but it doesn’t hurt their feelings.
Here are the words of “Chofetz Chaim | A Lesson a Day,” Day 14 (emphasis added):
All forms of lashon hora are prohibited even when no names are mentioned, if it will be possible for people to determine who is being discussed.
Well then, if people will not be able to determine who is being discussed, it sounds as though speaking negatively about a Jew is permitted. (This directly contradicts Little Froggie.) Note, however (same source):
If names are omitted but the story will reflect badly on an entire group of people, it may not be spoken.
Of course, the same question applies here – are the users of a certain website considered a specific group of Jews?
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Dash points out that someone else may know who the poster you’re talking about is. I assume this is quite rare.
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Little Froggie correctly points out that if your words will cause someone distress, there is a problem of ona’as d’varim even if there is no problem of lashon hora.
However, this does not apply to all cases, such as
when someone doesn’t use the CR any more.
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Showjoe answers yes to the original question, to which I say: Says which posek? I wouldn’t just assume this.
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Even assuming that a poster has the same din as a person in real life, to’eles must be considered. (I don’t know how to’eles would interact with ona’as d’varim here, where everyone can see everything.)
Regarding Dovid Hamelech:
1) That was Torah. It would not apply to davening (I assume).
2) Even if we were talking about learning, I do not think it likely that anyone today learns in such an absolutely uninterrupted way (and perhaps the person’s spiritual level matters as well – no one today can be compared to Dovid, as DaasYochid said).
3) As DaasYochid said, even if we were talking about such a case, the person’s learning could have been disrupted by the attack.
Regarding “shluchei mitzvah einon nizakin”:
Perhaps this applies only to people on their way to do a mitzvah (or coming back from one?), but not to people actually doing a mitzvah (certainly when they did not travel to do it).
147:
“Meanwhile it is important to understand in no uncertain terms, that YWN took the absolute correct decision in publishing the gruesome picture of the attack.”
Says you.
“We have to comprehend the full atrocity of this massacre, and the world has to witness the carnage in picture, each picture being worth 1000 words.”
Even assuming this is true, it didn’t have to be done by YWN specifically.
showjoe:
“also, from the way i see it, to disrespect a king back in ????’s day was a much bigger disrespect and severe than it is now.”
Not in the Torah’s eyes. The Torah’s views do not change.
(I don’t know how the Torah sees unqualified rulers or those who seized power and do not rule by the will of the people.)
catch yourself:
Nevertheless, you are not permitted to speak disrespectfully of that person. You may not like the fact that a certain individual holds office, but at the very least, his office demands respect. The higher and more important his office, the more this is so.[…]
The time has come for the Torah community to eschew all derogatory references to government officials and political figures as anathema to the ideology set forth in the Torah.
A: Source, please (I’ll deal with Pharaoh below).
B: Assuming you have a source, what are the necessary levels of respect you are referring to, and which offices demand them?
Even ??? ???? was commanded by ???”? to speak respectfully to ????. (Emphasis added.)
Speaking to someone is different than speaking about them.
That someone was “to be addressed with respect” does not mean, or even imply, that “we are not to speak of him in a deprecating manner”.
As an aside, you do not do your children a favor when you inculcate them with hatred, racism and bigotry.
I think that’s important enough to have its own thread. (Of course, you’re assuming the adults know that their attitudes
comprise unjustified hatred, racism, and bigotry…)
Can a concept be “invented?” If not, that would remove pet rocks and terrorism from consideration.
Zman has had at least one related article. The “useless machine” is a machine which does nothing but deactivate itself once activated.
(A switch turns it on. The machine opens
and a hand comes out and switches it off.)
I suspect that the reason there are no magazines specifically for teen boys, or even simply for teens in general, is the idea that to have a magazine with a target audience that openly includes teenage boys is to sanction bittul Torah – it’s not okay for teenage boys to read your magazine instead of learning, but if you market to them, you’re essentially saying that it is!
(Of course, I doubt anyone actually thinks teenage boys don’t read anything but seforim, but still, you can’t make something specifically for them.)
Does anyone think this theory is off the wall?
It’s hard to say which is more popular
when you can’t buy one without the other.
Lior was talking nonsense, but BP Yidd answered the
question accurately as far as his answer went.
Hashkafa-wise, I don’t know if “centrists” would
feel entirely comfortable with Mishpacha/FF, but anyone more
to the right certainly would (unless they were some kind of extremist).
According to my sister, Keser Chaya moved a few months ago to Rechov Yirmiyahu, between Shamgar and Bar Ilan. This is close to the Geulah neighborhood, the big Belzer shul, Rav Shefa Mall, and Center One/The Central Bus Station (Tachanah Merkazit).
come back, we can direct any new posters to this thread.)
A man came to the Kotzker Rebbe and told him that while
he had several problems, his biggest was parnassa. When
the Kotzker told him to daven for better parnassa, the
man said that he didn’t know how. The Kotzker then asked
him how he could have said that his greatest problem was
his parnassa, when not knowing how to daven is a far greater problem.
If you don’t want to marry this girl, I don’t think you should be worrying that she might be your bashert. I also don’t think most people are qualified to read “signs,” or Hashem’s intention in a given situation.
Popa:
I think the question is about the possibility of a specific disinterest in marrying the person who is one’s bashert. I don’t think disinterest in getting married at all should count in that case.
(Of course, you were probably joking anyway.)
I can’t say what it was (and I highly doubt you’ll think of it).
I stopped the second Yom Kippur after I started.
(If I think of anything stronger, I’ll try to remember to post it.)
A poster’s profile, which may have some (mis?)information about them, and always has lists of the threads they’ve posted in
(by chronological order of their last post in each one)
and the threads they’ve started
(by chronological order of when anyone last posted in them)
can be found at
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/USERNAMEHERE
or by clicking on their name next to any of their posts
(except in certain rare cases*. Also, if their name has a space in it, you’ll need to replace the space [or %20 in some browsers] with a dash: – ).
Your own name also appears at the top of every page when logged in.
On the subject of the user “Popa_bar_abba”:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/1-on-your-shidduch-list#post-537657
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/about-our-troll-in-residence
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If all this seems too much, just dive in! You’ll(probably) be fine. 🙂
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See here:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/changed-usernames
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/linked-usernames
Judging by Little Froggie’s words >here<, it seems Eclipse’s subtitle used to be “The Human Spellchecker.” (Now it’s just “The Human.”)
Ha ha ha ha ha (ha ha ha ha)
I, I, I, I, I, I, I
(Anyone?)
SIDI:
I would advise against trying to cut nails when they aren’t
at a length that makes it necessary to cut them. It’s hard enough
not to cut them too short when they are at cutting length.
(I almost suggested asking someone to demonstrate the use of a nail clipper, but realized that you probably don’t bite your toenails.)
PAA:
“I tried to outsmart the Moderators by posting it on my profile page but all the Hebrew letters just converted into question marks.”
You could have put it there in English. What made you think anyone would see it and realize what context it was meant for, though?
(I did see your post mentioning it in another thread, but perhaps you wouldn’t have posted that if you had been successful. After all, the mods would probably be curious about why you hadn’t simply posted the answer normally.)
probably not
So I guess “??? ??? ??? ?? ??????” is to be interpreted as
referring only to the time when he was actually buried?
(Also, when was Tziporah buried there, and by whom?)
Well, it seems no one knows (or cares much).
So, should I announce my old identity, or start
posting as myself in the same style and see if
anyone makes the connection?
How can that be your biggest problem if you don’t even have a subtitle?
That reminds me of a little story about the Kotzker Rebbe.
Does anyone else want to post it, or shall I?
cinderella:
“No one I know has ever been said no to because of their seminary.”
How can you know that no one ever turned down a shidduch with someone you know because of what seminary they went to?
(How could even they themselves know?)
As Ivory said, ask a posek. Please do post the answer, though.
ivory:
“If a man gets white hair at age 22 for example, how is his date fooled if he dyes it darker?”
It looks as though he has dark hair. If he will not be
allowed to continue dyeing his hair after the marriage,
he will not look the same as he did while dating her.
barlev: Wearing a toupee will be difficult with tefilin etc, but I assume it’s also ?? ????
Google finds discussions about toupees and tefillin, but
I see no mention of a problem with wearing them.
Perhaps, Barlev, you should refrain from assumptions in future.
Also, the OP knew that there was an issur for men to dye their hair – otherwise, why would they ask if it was allowed under certain circumstances?
Note: SIDI™ wrote his post without seeing mine (despite mine having an earlier time-stamp).
“(He built a wall in the middle of the drift pan)”
This still needs explaining.
Related to the OP, is it acceptable to refuse to answer questions from an anonymous caller?
Yes. I’ve done it. Not because I really care giving the information but lihachis.
I hope the answerer was joking. I’m pretty sure that it’s not acceptable to do acceptable things for unacceptable reasons.
As for the question, why would it matter if the asker wants to
remain anonymous? (If you’re not comfortable with it, then the
question becomes whether you have any obligation to talk to them.
If you don’t, then let them play by your rules or not at all.)
I’m Batman. ]:)
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The truth? Intellect, curiosity, and too much free time.
He [MLK] also said “Life’s most persistent and
urgent question is ‘What are you doing for others?'”
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(When you write this way, all the letters take up the same amount of space.)
SIDI:
Looks like it’s actually a job for you (except that you didn’t include linking and escaping).
wehavegotitallworkedout:
What he meant by “don’t troll” basically is “be honest.”
You should be aware that other people might not be.
Links:
The two official rules/tips threads threads:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/rules-of-the-ywn-coffee-room-please-read
A discussion of CR etiquette:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/the-ten-crommandments
Underneath each post / Editing:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/how-to-edit-a-post#post-544009
SIDI:
I was unsure, and should’ve put a question mark in the original post.
Lior probably means Warren Buffett.
I’d suggest dating them and finding out in person
how intelligent they are. If you notice that they
tend to be unintelligent, you can turn down such
people in the future.
My sister says that she’s heard the place has changed since she was there, and that you should call their office and ask for numbers of girls you can speak to.
Specifically, she says they have more academics now than they used to – it sounded like it might have been a “sem with no work” when she was there – but that it’s probably still less than other sems.
Mazel tov!