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August 14, 2011 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798598ObaminatorMember
Try this experiment: Define what is meant by someone being “Very Chareidi”, and define what is meant by someone being “very modern”.
August 14, 2011 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm in reply to: Where can one find out who finances a specific organization? #798082ObaminatorMemberAs Bezalel said, no private non-governmental organizations — even tax-exempt organizations — are obligated to report to anyone who funds them or how much funds they raised. The *only* exception are certain organizations engaged in political fundraising to benefit a candidate for political office.
ObaminatorMemberShe must be a real dolt.
ObaminatorMemberAnother lack of Kavod HaTefila I’ve noticed is that some people don’t wear a jacket (or hat) to Shachris. People that generally wear a hat and jacket during the week.
ObaminatorMemberI just realized that PBA opened this thread Motzei Shabbos! We all know the implications of what that means…
ObaminatorMemberyacr – you admit it is assur for a yid to to kill an ubar (fetus), you just say it is assur but not chayiv misa. Therefore by your own point, a yid *cannot* do it, since it is assur. (Even if it isn’t chayiv misa, it’s still assur for the yid.)
ObaminatorMemberMichael, What difference does it make if it is a Hebrew word or a word in another language? (Or even if it were a made-up word, for that matter.)
ObaminatorMemberInteresting, M80. I’ve always been making a kinfe-cutting hand-motion to my wife when I couldn’t find the knife. (Sometimes adding in a “nu” when the length of the pause seemed like a big hefsek.)
ObaminatorMemberNew Square
ObaminatorMemberAfter making al netilas yodayim but before making hamotzi you can say to someone “Where is the knife”?
ObaminatorMemberYou’ve addressed everyone’s location guess (which you solicited) — except MiddlePath’s guess.
ObaminatorMemberA – Yeshivish guys are complimenting their entire lives, from childhood on. Just not inappropriate cross-gender compliments as noted above.
B – People “like” a lot of things; that doesn’t necessarily make it appropriate.
ObaminatorMemberGuess
NY.
Why’d you ignore my question??
August 14, 2011 2:57 am at 2:57 am in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798581ObaminatorMemberThey could start a new thread, if that is easier.
ObaminatorMemberbut we’re getting there.
Who is the other party in “we’re”?
ObaminatorMemberYou’re married to her wolf, so any Yeshivish guy would do the same.
ObaminatorMember“it” is a typo that should have read “is”. “eat” was a typo that I intended to delete before submitting. “excersize” is a misspelling that you surely understood the meaning of. Replace the commas with semicolons if that makes it easier to read. And note that it is a reply to the comment immediately preceding it, namely the posters point about “because everyone else is”.
ObaminatorMemberAnother: Yehsivish guys are not above compliments, they give many compliments. But not about a girls dress or bodily features. Especially if they are not engaged or married to her.
August 14, 2011 2:18 am at 2:18 am in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798578ObaminatorMemberWhy don’t Itche and LMA start fresh, agree to the rules among themselves, and debate.
ObaminatorMemberadorable: Once they are engaged, agreed. (But even then they shouldn’t get carried away too much.) But if they aren’t engaged, entirely off-limits.
ObaminatorMemberOr to Five Towns, Atlanta, Milwaukee, etc. I’ve seen it all.
ObaminatorMemberNot until you’re engaged. And even then, until you are married you shouldn’t be going too far verbally. But if you’re not engaged to her, never tell or discuss with her about her clothes, features, or prettiness.
ObaminatorMember+1
ObaminatorMemberI think it’s inappropriate to talk to a girl you’re not married or engaged to about her clothing or her features.
ObaminatorMemberIf he qualifies he shouldn’t have any busha from his poverty. If he doesn’t qualify and lied to get it, he won’t have any busha anyways.
ObaminatorMemberI don’t think it’s appropriate to tell a girl you’re not married or engaged to that she’s pretty.
ObaminatorMembergavra:
The species of Chassidah is well known for helping all Jewish kind. It is very Kosher.
ObaminatorMemberThere’s nothing wrong to sit and learn because everyone else is, there’s nothing wrong to work because everyone else it, and there’s nothing wrong to eat excersize because everyone else is.
All of those are the right thing to do — especially sitting and learning. So whatever the reason he is learning, it is good.
August 12, 2011 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm in reply to: What makes Chaim Zieg's Chulent that desirable? #796943ObaminatorMemberAn additional benefit is that it also includes free perfume for his wife. (It becomes ready by time he gets home from the station.)
August 12, 2011 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm in reply to: What makes Chaim Zieg's Chulent that desirable? #796942ObaminatorMemberOfcourse: I’m not sure how you could have missed the biggest clue of all. You did mention he sells it at his gas station. He secret ingredient is the free gas he puts in the chultent.
ObaminatorMemberJust call him and tell him you’re cancelling.
ObaminatorMemberThe government pays the retail price the store charges for the WIC items. So if you the WIC recipient customer take a larger package then technically allowed, the store will fill in the higher price on the WIC check you give him, and the government therefore pays a higher price.
ObaminatorMemberIts really nice if she wants to be mentchlich about it, and she should be, but that doesn’t take away his responsibility to act like a mentch.
She has just as much responsibility to be mentchlich as he does to be a mentch.
ObaminatorMemberYou should have the same busha to use a food stamp card that you have using a credit card. No more, no less.
Should an oni be made to have busha if he pays for his milk and bread with tzedakah provided him? That’s not the Jewish way. There is a reason tzedakah is specifically given btznius.
August 12, 2011 2:20 am at 2:20 am in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798572ObaminatorMemberHow about Lomed Mkol Adam and ItcheSrulik start fresh, agree to the ground rules, and make a debate thread only they post in?
ObaminatorMemberThe dress may have been Mid East when the lived there, but since they lived in Spain before the Mid East, their traditions derive from Spain. There wasn’t any more of an unbroken chain from Yerushlayim to Spain to Iraq then there was from Yerushlayim to Ashkenaz.
ObaminatorMemberPerhaps my wording wasn’t clear. If the din had been he goes free, even though he committed an intentional murder, I would accept that entirely. I am *only* questioning if the din is in fact like that. I believe it is not.
ObaminatorMemberI’m questioning the claim that an intentional murderer without hasra goes scott free under beis din. I learnt the din the same way “ajewfrommonsey” explained it above.
ObaminatorMemberAnd why should an intentional murderer without hasra have a better outcome than an accidental killer?
ObaminatorMemberTalking to a child is not a crime. Even if they find this guy, there is nothing they can arrest or charge him with. And he doesn’t have to answer any questions under the law.
ObaminatorMemberSefardim came from Spain (hence “Sefardim”) before they moved to the Middle East.
ObaminatorMemberapushatayid-
Your understandinf of that doesn’t compute. You mentioned 3 cases:
1. Intentional killer with warning from witnesses is brought from Ir Miklat to court, convicted, executed.
2. Accidental killer is brought from Ir Miklat to court, determined to be accidental, sentenced to Ir Miklat.
3. Intentional killer without warning from witnesses is brought from Ir Miklat to court, and then sent free?
Why should Case 3 have it off when Case 2 doesn’t?
August 11, 2011 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798551ObaminatorMemberMod80-
The debate can only happen if the mods only approve posts from the two debaters in the debate thread.
ObaminatorMemberhaifagirl: Were those that recognized you lurkers or regular posters here?
August 11, 2011 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm in reply to: First and second generation of holocaust survivours #797411ObaminatorMemberHaLeiVi: What do you mean that some didn’t rebuild their lives? You’re referring to those that abandoned Yiddishkeit? (Like Eli Weisel.)
Does anyone know if most of the frum survivors remained frum?
ObaminatorMemberI’m not arguing over the propriety of agreeing to a second date before a first, but on the issue of travel my points are quite clear above and I maintain them. Additionally, I should add it is typical and fairly standard that the girl will travel to the guy’s city. So you may wish to fight city hall, but you wont get too far.
On the side point, I think it is pretty clear in the shidduch world that the girls need to be more appreciative when they have a date than vice versa, considering the guys are getting a lot more requests for dates than the girls. Which is another reason it works out better for her to travel to him. She has less dates thus has less times she would need to travel. If he would need to travel for many of his dates (and he has many more than her), it would be a lot more expensive. And it would also mean out-of-town girls would get a lot less dates if they tried to force the guy to travel to her. He could date many others locally without the need for travelling time, expense, and loss of study.
And I do believe the girls appreciate the great accomplishments her potential Choson has made in becoming a Torah scholar, and wishes to allow him uninterrupted.
Either way this will not change as much as you disagree with it. And I think I’ve been clear enough on this issue to need not further comment.
ObaminatorMemberThe Republicans won 4 of the 6 recall races today, and will be keeping control of the Wisconsin Senate. Furthermore, the Republicans might pick up another 2 seats from two Democrat Senators facing a recall election next week. But either way, the Republicans are guaranteed to keep control of the Wisconsin Senate and therefore all levels of power in Wisconsin.
ObaminatorMemberI make the decisions in the house. She agrees with me.
ObaminatorMemberGood points HaLeiVi.
ObaminatorMemberTell that to my wife.
Anyways, I was talking about her coming in, which you seem to agree with. Not about the 2 dates agreement.
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