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haifa,
So you are moida that this type of environment may be highly detrimental and even spiritually fatal to a Jew.
Would your Rosh Yeshiva consider not listening to “amaleikishe” music a chumra?
Would you have considered yourself to have once been a fanboy of RPG’s and/or Sindarin?
scientific knowledge and the great works of literature, music and other culture is also inspired by exactly the same source that inspires Jewish culture.
Unequivocally incorrect. (And Jewish so-called “culture” is what the Torah defines it to be.)
I personally know Hareidi Rabbanim who have Ph.D.s in such topics as you list above
And they didn’t study the secular material they studied “for its own sake.” There was a tachlis to it.
Mod – But it is sooo much fun beating up on jphone. And he seems to enjoy every hit anyways. Pretty please?
Knowledge for its own sake is exactly what Judaism is about
That ONLY applies to study of the Jewish texts. It does NOT apply to secular knowledge, such as science, culture, literature, and law to take some of your examples above.
you need a doctor, do you think that he or she should not have pursued his or her knowledge for its own sake? The best ones do, you know.
I don’t believe that for a moment. They studied the material for the sake of practice, not for the sake of knowledge alone.
I know a few people who did graduate work on the study of Piyyutim–by crawling into the material found in the Cairo Geniza and published previously forgotten Piyyutim and Kedusha’ot.
The Cairo Geniza material is unreliable and unauthoritative.
They do?? Is it by the Nile at daybreak?
squeak – You read my comment out of context as well. The key part of the statement I was responding to was “may be interested in education for its own sake
Jax – That could only because I transcend locality.
FunnyBunny – Have no fear; this is mikvah talk between squeak and myself.
Jax – Why all this espionage?
smalltown, Chaveirim receive no more particular training than the average Jew on whom to help.
“And some Torah Jews (men and women) may be interested in education for its own sake–whether in science, medicine, Yiddish culture, Tanach, English literature, law, etc.”
That is completely the antithesis of Judaism.
squeak – where are you holding?
Jax – Do you want to chip in?
squeak – Your washer will overload.
Jothar – Don’t get me wrong, I am just clarifying how the two points fit in. If I understand your last two comments correctly (and correct me if I am wrong), you are saying that true Lipa is part of what your Rosh Yeshiva ZT’L referred to as “amaleikishe” Jewish music of today – and it would be better to listen to classical music than that – but being you are not on that madreiga, you listen to such music anyways.
Second question is, if someone isn’t on such a madreiga, wouldn’t your Rosh Yeshiva prefer them to work their way towards that direction?
smalltown, Should Chaveirim go out of business? After all, just cause a “frum sounding” caller asks for roadside help, who knows?
55, I have it on good word your salary has been tripled effective today.
They are on the way to the Bais Medrash.
How should they go?
Jothar – In the past you described yourself as a big Lipa fanboy. How does that fit into this post?
No.
Here is the text from Rav Meiselman’s Sefer (P. 146):
Regarding the permissibility of women dancing in the synagogue with Torah scrolls during hakofot on Simhat Torah. This practice has been opposed by all contemporary Rabbinical authorities. My revered teacher, Rabbi Joseph B Soloveitchek, told me he opposed this practice when questioned by synagogues in Brookline, Massachusetts and New York City. The basis for this ruling, he told me, is the Talmud in Berakhot, which says just as there is an etiquetter which regulates one’s behavior when visiting someone else’s home, so too there is a tradition which regulates behavior in the synagogue. Thus, for example, eating in the synagoue is not permitted. An element of proper synagogue behavior, such as eating in the synagogue, is explicated in legal detail by the Talmud and by subsequent codes of Jewish law. The same applies to introductions of innovations which our ancerstors considered to be in conflict with the feeling of respect and awe owed to the synagogue. Proper synagogue behavior is determined by practice and tradition. Since it has been the age-old practice of synagogues that women do not dance with the Torah scrolls during hakafot, the introduction of this practice would be a violation of synagogue etiquette.
Yes, you are the only one.
rob:
The Rema in Orach Chaim 88 concludes that a nida should not touch the Sefer Torah. Since most single girls are niddos in addition to many of the married women, the Shevet HaLevi concludes that it is inappropriate for women to dance with the Sefer Torah.
BTW Rav Yosef Soloveitchik’s psak has been recorded by Rabbi Moshe Meiselman, in Jewish Woman in Jewish Law (p.197/p.146) where the author cites the psak of Rav Soloveitchik that women should not dance with Torah scrolls.
and what else?
Watching the men dance with the Sifrei Torah, after each hakafa, is much neater.
According to the quote, Rav Reisman is suggesting drivers pick bochurim up from bus stops, and give them a ride.
haifa, why isn’t that a complaint? It should be a complaint.
You do??
Gut Shabbos.
Gut Yom tov.
Gmar tov.
(I sound like an echo 😉
So Jax didn’t do so bad afterall!
Perhaps the bochor didn’t realize it was a female driver, when he was trying to flag down a car.
Jax, say what?
Orthodox and Orthodox.
haifa, You misunderstood. Jax was referring to mepal’s chumra of wearing dirty laundry of Chol Hamoed.
Awwww.
You have a gutte neshomo.
Then tip them 50 cents.
Welcome to the CR HiE!
Anyone not put decorations on the schach?
Jax, not nice to make choizek of mepal for following that chumra.
Hey, I didn’t bring up the smelly laundry.
So you also know how his smells like!?
Does it smell like squeak’s?
goody: Spiritual health is the topic here.
areivim, when where you over by squeak to smell it?
squeak, how does it smell?
Put it in the laundry bin.