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JosephParticipant
That would be the Zip+4. Let’s hear it squeak!
JosephParticipantsqueak – whats your Zip Code?
JosephParticipantAZ –
You’ve taken your crusade far beyond anything the Roshei Yeshivos have publicly endorsed. You belittle any shidduch crisis causes other than the age gap. You call for Yeshiva bochorim to end their Limud Torah in Eretz Hakodesh early. These, and other enumerated stances of yours, have NOTHING to do with the Roshei Yeshivos.
JosephParticipantsqueak – I need the address. Send it to 26.
JosephParticipantI’ll pick you up.
JosephParticipantAh, lets do the practical. Pick something in the 5 boroughs, preferably Brooklyn or Manhattan.
JosephParticipantEveryone is invited. Just show up.
squeak – Sounds like some fancy shmancy venue. I hope I understand the menu. And, pray tell, who gives the hechsher? Where is this place anyways?
JosephParticipantJosh, I’m pretty sure Rav Svei’s opposition, quoted above, never waned. It is a legitimate shitta of a Godol Hador to be mentioned.
JosephParticipantAlright, I turn the table to you… choose a venue.
JosephParticipantsqueak, Did you skip town till you can tell me that it is now longer “today”? 🙂
JosephParticipant80, The OP of this thread itself falls into this category.
JosephParticipantSo bloggers should have something to make a tumult about.
JosephParticipantRav Elya Svei:
It says further, in Targum Yonoson, that one should not be a false witness. I want to stop here. In public life here in Brooklyn, there is false testimony. We have merited, through blood and sweat and with the Almighty’s help, to establish large Yeshivos for the boys and Bais Yaakova for the girls. And these schools produced students of whom all can be proud. But then someone comes and says that they are still incomplete. When the boys go out of the Yeshiva, they are still not finished — they still need more studies: they still have to go to “Touro College” to be well-rounded. That is the biggest false testimony against the Torah. The boys do not need such “completeness”.
One is not allowed to be friends with them! One is not allowed to be partners with them! What will be with our children? From where will our great Torah leaders come? From Touro College they will not come! And mothers of Gedolei Torah will also not come from Touro College, because the Gemorrah says that to merit children who will become Gedolei Yisroel, one has to have modesty. And modesty cannot be acquired in Touro College!
JosephParticipantIf I recall, not too long ago in France they were considering banning yarmulka’s along with burkas (in schools).
JosephParticipantjustaguy – I think we do a pretty good job making sure they don’t think that.
JosephParticipantsqueak – the main site does get frequent updates.
We can do the same I did with Yonason, at KD in either Manhattan or Brooklyn.
JosephParticipantThank You Guard-Your-Tongue. I don’t even understand how they are approved in the first place. Some responsibility must be taken on the management level.
JosephParticipantIn Bnei Brak.
First you’ll need to want it though. That would include deleting almost all your blog posts, after coming to terms with Rav Shach’s teachings.
Now, please, just sign across the dotted lines: ________________________________
🙂
JosephParticipant“If that’s the biggest problem in your teen’s life, then you’re doing fine.”
You don’t mean to say that one should ignore their biggest chasoron, even if this is what it is, do you?
JosephParticipantIf cameras had been invented, you would see show nice photos of Yidden shaking hands with many shady characters throughout our history. We must deal with everyone we encounter to some extent. I’m not necessarily comparing the NYPD and FDNY to any of those, just making a larger point.
Do you think when these officers are in the bar or privacy of their clubs they are complimenting us?
I did appreciate your comments on the shirts, hat, jacket, thread!
JosephParticipantHIE must ask his father.
JosephParticipantjag – Never called Rush my hero (comparatively, to other shkotzim he is good); and Giuliani certainly never was. You should read my old comments about Giuliani both right here in the CR and on the main site.
BTW few shkotzim know that they are a sheigetz.
JosephParticipantYou can always convert.
JosephParticipantsammygol, what does that position have to do with this? I hope you aren’t trying to discredit the Lev HaIvri based on something else he was opposed on. Reb Moshe to disagreed with many on Shabbos Clocks. So what?
The Kuzari writes that Avrohom Avinu, therefore, spoke 2 different languages. One for holy speech – that was Loshon HaKodesh, and the other for mundane speech – that, the Kuzari says was some non-Jewish language that Avrohom Avinu took and changed around a little on his own. And thats the idea behind Yiddish. It is a non-Jewish language that we took and twisted a bit in order to make it exclusive among us.
The Chasam Sofer EH 2:11 says that in ancient times Jews used to use a modified version of the non-Jewish languages for everyday (divrei chol) talk, similar to what Yiddish is.
JosephParticipantGra: Torah comes from the poor – not the rich
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JosephParticipant“is Aramaic holy?”
ronrsr – Yes.
JosephParticipantJothar:
Chasam Sofer EH 2:11
Kuzari
Maharil Diskin: “For generations we are accostomed to speaking Yiddish, not Loshon HaKodesh.”
Sefer Lev HaIvri (Hagaon Rav Akiva Yosef Shlezinger) says we should not change our spoken tongue from Yiddish, and he draws parallels with our usage of Yiddish in modern times, to our usage of Aramaic in ancient times.
JosephParticipantWhich part is against, Jothar?
I provided the mekoros, crack the Seforim open and check it out. The mekoros are in the first 8 posts of this thread.
JosephParticipantJothar, for this (allegedly) Reb Moshe ZT’L is your posek hador, but for Kollel not?
JosephParticipantGood Morning!
Which shaygetz isn’t anti-semitic?
JosephParticipantNo.
JosephParticipantI previously provided the mekors. See the OP’s. If I figure out that hebrewbooks site, maybe I’ll post the text. The first 8 posts on this thread provide more details on the Rambam I referenced.
JosephParticipantRabbosai, mir villen bentchen!
JosephParticipantIn the case you describe, I don’t think anyone would disagree it would have been perfectly fine to use English. Why DID he use a language he had trouble with? Just because a certain thing may be ideal doesn’t mean it is always appropriate. And I don’t see how you can blame others for his choice. Perhaps there is an element to the story you were unfamiliar with?
JosephParticipantsammygol, With all due respect, I’ve been to MANY Yiddish shiurim from both Roshei Yeshivos and Rabbonim, and I have never experianced what you describe. And I know Yiddish fluently.
JosephParticipantJothar: How do you enter the mekor on that site? Does it require a hebrew keyboard/font? Perhaps you can use the mekoros I provided in the OP’s.
JosephParticipantFeif: I was clarifying the preceding post by someone. And its no agenda, they are facts.
JosephParticipantsammygol, Oib ich vult es geshribben in der mamme loshen, asach mentchen du vult nebech gornish farshtein.
JosephParticipantBTW the lawyer comparison may be a valid one. It is customary in the legal profession (normally), that the sharks, er attorneys, are only compensated by the plaintiff if they are successful. I am suggesting this may be similar to why shadchonim are customarily only compensated when successful.
JosephParticipantIts all due to the age gap. If everyone would just marry within their age, all shidduch problems would be solved. /sarcasm
JosephParticipantcherrybim:
Are you asking if someone uses Reb Moshe’s kula for, say, Cholov Stam does he also abide by Reb Moshe’s chumra of not using a Shabbos clock for an air conditioner?
Just want to clarify your question.
JosephParticipantThe only criteria to merit joining Kollel, according to the Rambam, is being a Jew. IOW, the Rambam clearly states that every Jew is entitled to choose to join Kollel. (Obviously, it goes without saying, he must actually learn [not batul] in Kollel. But the Rambam imposes NO requirement that he be a “better learner” or whatever.)
JosephParticipantSame story as during Reb Moshe’s time. So the psak is the same.
JosephParticipantstarwolf, I saw no counterpoints to the various Chasam Sofer’s quoted, as well as the Kuzari, Maharil Diskin, Hagaon Rav Akiva Yosef Shlezinger, etc.
SJS, that was a playful link to the previous CR thread on this issue.
JosephParticipantSJS: You missed the following I posted:
Neither is Yiddish the “language of the Jew”, any more than a black hat is the “clothing of a Jew.” But just as the purpose of the hat is “lo shinu es malbushayhen” – we want to dress differently than the seculars – the purpose of Yiddish is “lo shinu es shemom” – we want to talk differently than the seculars.
JosephParticipantSo the change between 1960 or 1970 and 2008 is not all that much. I don’t see how it would impact Reb Moshe tshuva on this issue.
JosephParticipantstarwolf, I notice you frequently miss the subtleties.
JosephParticipantThe purpose of the the hat and jacket is “lo shinu es malbushayhen” – we want to dress differently than the seculars.
JosephParticipantI can check, but am almost certain that the population of Brooklyn today is not much different (in fact there may have been a very slight increase) than it was during Reb Moshe’s time.
JosephParticipantThe purpose of the white shirt, hat, jacket is “lo shinu es malbushayhen” – we want to dress differently than the seculars.
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