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Will there be a commerative issue printed?
Can we have one frum magazine for women with pictures of women?
The men in my family have awful voices, can’t carry a tune or keep up with the beat. I don’t have a beautifutl voice, but I have a strong voice that enjoys Shabbos Zmiros. If I don’t sing, the Shabbos Zmiros will be a shanda. There are Rabbonim that believe Zmiros are tefillos and not part of kol isha issues. If there is a man at my Shabbos table that is offended he is free to leave. So far this has not happened in the fifty years I have been singing on Shabbos.
I wish you hatzlacha. The only thing I can suggest is that you stand out from the other magazines. Perhaps if you have a story of a heilige Rebbitzen from our past you could show her picture. Many ladies I know, very frum ones, have told me what a shame it is that when they read fascinating articles about special women they would like to see her picture. It gives chizuk to us and our daughters. I would support such a magazine.
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I unfortunately read the NYP article and I hope she does not make a penny off this drek. If the lifestyle was not for her fine, it’s a free country, but to slap down an entire community that took loving care of her all her life is beyond disgusting. She acknowledges that her grandparents and husband were good to her – so this is the thanks they get? She shames them publicly with her drekishe book. I hope whoever’s picture she used without their permission sues the pruste clothting off her back. BTW she looked much prettier and bacheint when she was a young chosidishe veibele than what she looks like today.- farkrimpte kardashian wannabe.
IMO having been involved in shadchanus for years, the problem is parents with lists and if one thing is not on the list, the shidduch is off. In my time if the boy and girl were fine menchen the shidduch was redt. Nowadays if the the girls grandfather didn’t go to the right kindergarten the shidduch is off. very stupid. Another issue I have is that we have Touro College which is full of potential shidduchs and keeps the girls and boys in seperate buildings. I’m not saying it is for everyone, but surely a Rav can come up with a way for some boys and girls to meet informally and see if they are interested in each other.
I feel very strongly that in todays pritzidik world we need chizuk to combat yetzer haras within and without our lives. We get that through many sources. One is to see pictures of Rebbes of the past and present. Somehow their kadosh faces provide strength. When we read stories in the many frum magazines about ehrliche women I and many of my fellow ladies feel the need to see what these ladies look like. I look at Rebbitzen Kanievsky’s picture every day. I can’t tell you what a tremendous chizuk it gives me. When you assur what is allowed (like the snake saying not to touch the eitz hadas), people will naturally want to take it a step further like the taliban women do. I find this a tragedy that these women see their faces as pritzus.
Tzniyus is a chiyuv, there is no question about that. But when women are made to feel that their faces are pritzidik the natural outgrowth of that shame is to want to cover that ervah as well. If you never show faces of women or girls in the many frum publications we have now, it hurts women and may make some women feel the need to go that extra step in what they feel is tznius.
Just curious, besides having a happy fulfilled husband, does the chasidishe wife get any personal spiritual fulfillment from living the lifestyle?
Multiple reasons for older singles. Many girls do not want to support learning boys which seems to be the prevailing population in yeshiva circles nowadays. They want to stay home with their babies. Another reason is that bt the time other girls are ready to support a family with a profession, they are too old for the yeshiva boys who have married the younger girls who were willing to go support the learning boys on a meager salary.
Excuse me but I don’t want to bring in prust magazines like good housekeeping. Having said that there are plenty of frum women that would enjoy seeing pictures of the women featured in the frum magazines. Please don’t tell me to start my own as I don’t have the talent,money, or time.
all the new frum magazines are entertaining and informative. I believe I have come up with a solution to no female picture allowed, even in the women’s issues. Suscribers should have a choice between having a magazine with women’s pictures in it or not. Surely it would be possible to print copies with and without women’s pictures. For charedeis they would get the womanless issues and the rest of us could enjoy seeing what famous frum women portrayed in the magazine look like.
Why do you save a man’s life first? Even if she is a more worthy or needed person than him?
Why would men go first on lifeboats? It should be according to circumstance. Who has young children or other obligations. If it is because men are worth more than women then I give up. Is the reason men do not follow women a tznius issue that men shouldn’t be watching women walking?
ok here is the next step. First we erase women’s image from our newspapers. Next women are not allowed near the gravesite when their loved ones are being buried. Then we don’t allow Father’s to attend their daughter’s graduation. Now brides should not be in wedding gowns walking down the aisle. We really have learned so much from our muslim brothers on how to make our women proud to be Jews. No wonder so many of our young people are otd when some people portray yiddishkeit so ugly.
The point was that this policy should have been stated last Summer so that incoming families would be aware and have the opportunity to choose another school that would allow Fathers at the girls graduation. To spring this on families after Pesach is wrong. Another point is that we are always reading about how a girl’s confidence is linked to her shared experiences with her Father. Why is the school bringing bad feelings into what should be a time of shared nachas. If some Fathers or daughters object, then don’t show up to the graduation.
Guess what I am not in school and if I read an article about a frum woman I want to see a picture of her and brisker I won’t stop until women can read a magazine catered to frum women that shows women.
I only buy Jewish Press because they are not scared to show pictures of women. I am curious as to how parents explain to their little girls as to why their favorite magazines don’t show pictures of women. When did the face of a frum woman become assur? Is the frum community never going to see pictures of Sarah Schnerer or heilige Rebbitzens of our past. Then don’t wonder why eating disorders and cutting are becoming more prevelant in our community when young girls are taught that ladies should not be seen. This possible leads to feelings of self loathing.
If she were a man her picture and story would be featured in yeshiva world.
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Let me preface this by saying that I very much enjoy and appreciate being a frum woman with all the simcha and privileges it brings. But if I could be someone for just one day I would like to be a frum man and daven in the men’s section and get an aliyah to the bima, and then learn with chavrusa just to experience that one time. Maybe dance with the Torah on Simchas Torah, that would be sublime.
I picked up the new Ami magazine and enjoyed reading it. Interesting articles and good advice. Nice to see a picture of a Rav and a little girl about 7 years old. Nice that females have not disappeared in a frum publication. Hope to see pictures of prominent frum women from our past.
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Looking at a girl is ossur? Everything in moderation man. That is why we put up mechitzas so that people don’t spend majority of time looking and intermingling with each other. It is a geder. Maybe we should pluck our eyes out so we don’t look at each other. Going to the other extreme is what other religions do, Yiddishkeit is so beautiful because we live heimishe lives in this world.
You have got to be kidding me – the boys will look at the girls dressed to kill – What is wrong with that? Potential shidduchs. If one shidduch comes out of this, so be it. At the weddings I go to the women stop dancing when the Father and brothers come in to dance with kallah. I feel sorry for the kallahs who didn’t go into the men’s side for Katza Merakdim. I feel it contributes to the simchase Chosson V’Kallah. I have never in all my years see this descend into intermingling. It goes on for about 15 minutes, the kallah is escorted back to the ladies side and back to seperate dancing.
I don’t see a problem with a kallah and her Mother dancing with their Father and brothers. Isn’t that allowed? No other men or women would be allowed in the circle. How is that a problem?
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With all due respect, notice the magazines and pictures of Rebbis and the Rebbi cards the boys collect – why are they circulated? Because it gives the boys chizuk and someone to be a role model. Same as the female half of the population would like something to look at besides flowers and hearts. Like it or not, we are a visual society and when I read stories of valorous women from the past I would like to see what she looked like. I don’t have the money to start my own magazine but I wish the frum magazines had a ladies only section that showed women’s pictures.
So girl’s role is to work hard and somehow not be seen in public? Sorry, but just because some chasidishe families have only men at the Shabbos table while the women are in the kitchen does not mean it follows that all frum families should aspire to that model. The same feeling holds that just because some charadei families hold that women’s pictures should not be in a public forum, many other frum families do not hold with that view. Neither view is right or wrong but right for that group of people. It is a shame that there is no proper frum paper or magazine that prints pictures of frum women.
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I am not amused by the erased from history argument. Our daughters are being led to believe they have no right to see pictures of historical frum women like Sarah Schneirer (recent article in Mishpocha left out her picture). It is extremely praiseworthy for women to be modest but I believe that it would give girls tremendous chizuk to see pictures of Rebbitzens and Neshei chesed from the past and how they presented themselves in the world. Someone once asked the Spinka Rebbe if girls in his Yeshiva should wear uniforms. He responded no, that girls need to know how to shop and determine what to wear and this is how they will learn how to cope in the world. The same lesson applies that if you never see pictures of female role models in frum media, then you are taking away a powerful lesson for girls. I believe this also takes away self esteem. How do you think little girls feel when their brothers see pictures of frum men everywhere and not one picure of a frum lady?
Thanks Oomis.
Every time anyone makes any criticism of the status quo inevitably someone trots out “why don’t you join the reform jews.” I am very proud to be a frum woman. I do not seek or want any fame for myself. Very simply put, I and many in the frum community do not like women being erased from Jewish history. I am only looking out for the self esteem of our daughters and granddaughters that they see images of frum women as not being sinful.
I and many in the frum community do not like women being erased from Jewish history. I am only looking out for the self esteem of our daughters and granddaughters that they see images of frum women as not being sinful.
Then how come Bina magazine and Family First magazine titled as magazines for women do not show pictures of women? Like it or not we are out in the world as evidenced by the amount of women working in these magazines and elsewhere. If our faces are considered so dangerous (even elderly and departed women) then maybe we need them covered up with burkas (which is probably the direction our charedei society is heading).
To Hakatan,
Maybe you don’t understand why women like me feel disrespected when we are reading articles about phenomenal frum women doing tremendous chesed and we are looking at a picture of a flower. Our daughters would benefits greatly by proudly seeing role models of how a bas melech presents herself. This might go a long way in helping with lack of tzniyus issues, shame of body issues that lead to eating disorders, etc. We live in a very visual society, we see pictures of frum men constantly – this is a great chizuk for our boys. Girls need chizuk as well.
Although the Jewish Press is far from perfect it is my only choice as they do not erase the image of frum ladies from Jewish history like the other newspapers mentioned do. I cannot in all conscience present such newspapers to my innocent granddaughters as if to say, no matter how much chesed you do your face is not allowed to be seen in these newspapers.
Groise Chuchem, spread a newspaper over the sink, when you’re done, throw the newspaper in the garbage. That should not be too difficult.
Another point, real Torahdik men honor their wives and don’t use some else’s opinion or interpretation of Halacha to justify bullying or not helping out with household tasks. I have never seen Shalom Bayis in a home where the husband is a bully. Mutual honor and respect bring Shalom Bayis (a state of being that we all wish to achieve), and that is worth cooking a few meals.
Listen mosherose, does lo silbash refer to a woman working to support her kollel husband? Obviously this is a chesed that women take upon themselves to live a kollel lifestyle. Just as a husband should sometimes help out in the kitchen as a chesed to his wife and for sholom bayis. A wife should show her gratitude to her husband for this chesed. and a husband should show his gratitude to his wife for helping financially support the family. and if driving a car helps the wife in her tafkid, then kol hakavod.