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And itzik I was talking about the lakewood brand golden fluff
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Which is pas yisroel, bishul yisroel and pareve :). Not that it also can’t be used for killing rats LOL. In fact according to the Darchei Kareis you cannot feed rats that which you do not eat yourself because they may be gilgulim of reshoim and you are depriving them of the ability of doing tshuva by feeding them that which may be metamtem es halev ve’es ha’moach………………….(Purim IS coming!!!!)
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I am super machmir and burn my house down every Thursday night so the insurance company puts me up in a hotel for Shabbos. No need for a cleaning lady.
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I am saying that cheese curls are fit only to poison rats because they are so full of chemicals (and they look and smell like rat bait LOL).
If your Yiddish is now mostly Hebrew, then you’re not speaking Yiddish anymore.
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Then all the more reason to preserve it because it is a special haimish Torah Yiddish that is one more boundary between us and assimilation. However, I agree that it should not be forced upon anyone as a first language but rather as something special for use within Yiddish speaking communities or to be able to speak to the older generation.
a course in Yiddish
Do we have such things? Most Yiddish seems to be learned at home or by teitching the Chumash.
In the end it is Lipa Schmeltzer who is preserving Yiddish for us by demystifying it and making it something young people want to learn in an informal way.
itzik, i think i’m right in saying that most of rav kook’s followers aren’t really following his shitta. he wouldn’t agree with half the things they say and do. but rav kook himself was a great man and even though he had a lot of opposition, you can’t say he wasn’t chashuv.
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I agree. Some of his so called followers make him sound like a certain musical performer and self appointed rebbele in terms of disdain for halacha and lack of boundaries between mutar and ossur L”A.
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Ah, yes – cheese curls. Hmmm…going to the Home Depot site…clicking on rat bait…and finding something that looks suspiciously similar to cheese curls. Checking the ingredients on cheese curls and seeing that PETA would be all over you if you tried to use cheese curls to rid yourself of rats!
(You don’t like Bamba? Similar texture, different flavor and conveniently pareve).
Those Golden Fluffs sound suspiciously similar to something marketed by a firm in Lakewood that my rav in NYC once bought for an event, but these are pareve bishul yisroel.
Going back to the first post – when was the famous psak of Rav Moishe Feinstein ZTL issued and how many times was it restated? I don’t hold by it (though I understand and accept the circumstances and reasoning behind it) but I believe it is more recent or was restated more recently than the original poster indicated. Then again, while I always thought organized, commercial CY in the US goes back to the late 1950’s, very little CY was available even into the 60’s and early 70’s according to what even some Chassidim have told me.
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Also, there are far more children of RZ families who become more charedi than vice versa as it once was. Even some nominal RZ have charedi hashkafas especially after the double shock of Yigal Amir (framed or not) and Gush Katif which led to a general decline in the self-image of religious Zionists and questioning of their ideology.
Today’s real religious Zionists, the hilltop youth, Bat Ayin etc, are new age neo- Charedim who follow a strange mixture of Chabad, Breslov, Carlebach (music or ideology – I am not sure) and the writings not so much of Rav A”Y Kook but of his more radical son. Their rov is the decidedly charedi Chabad mekubal R’ Yitzchak Ginzburgh and I believe they also respect R’ Eliezer Berland of Shuvu Bonim who is politically somewhere to the right of R’ Meir Kahane HY”D. Strange people and way outside the mainstream but at least they have real values which they put themselves on the line for and are not corrupted by the medine that has so disappointed their sincerely old line RZ parents.
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How can anyone support a state that does not support itself and surrenders the land it is meant to protect while it endangers the inhabitants thereof and Jews throughout the world?
What have Rav Kook’s people done for the society of the medine except trying to blend in? I remember very well how a certain politician from Mafdal would go out of his way to make it miserable for those who observe shmita properly because HE believed in the heter mechira. And Rav Kook called America “ama reka”; have his followers done anything to stop the dependence of the medine on American goodwill that can easily run out at times like this?
If tomorrow, the medine elects a government that, while not being Torah true (that can come only with Moshiach) has the guts to say: “We will stand alone if we have to but we will do what is necessary to preserve the safety of the JEWISH people in the Land!” then I might feel differently. But Begin did not do that, neither did Shamir and neither did Bibi. That is because, by definition, a non Torah state cannot succeed in E”Y and must be replaced with a Torah state.
At this stage in history, that can only happen with Moshiach. The medine is the antithesis of Moshiach; it was founded to turn the Jews into a nation like all other nations. The novi says: od teshvu zkenim uzkeinois birchoivois Yerushalayim. Zionism has achieved, as Herzl YMS* and Ben-Gurion OLBM wanted: od teshvu POSHIM ve Z**OT birchovot Yerushalayim (ve’nashim belaylot lo telchu merov pachadim) – in short they have turned kedusha into klipa and light into darkness.
* The reason not to say YMS after a Jew’s name is that you do not want his family line to be wiped out as they can do tshuva. Herzl has no family line; all of his descendants met bad ends and one son was a meshumad. I therefore have no problem saying Herzl YMS though I rarely find him worth discussing. He suffered from delusions caused by a very ignoble infection that spread to his brain and these delusions are evident in his thoughts and writing. OLBM = “Of Less than Blessed Memory” or zechuso yagen – lo aleinu!.
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Also, there were very few visas available to Mandate Palestine; the debate over the rabbonim who told their followers to stay is almost moot as there was nowhere for them to go after the Evian Conference.
There indeed were abuses of the visa process by the Labor Zionists and unbelievably callous quotes which showed that their priority was to build a state for their own egos and ideologies at any human cost. I can’t even post them here; they are worse than obscenities.
Bar-Ilan has attracted more and more secular students; it is not a successful institution as far as any sort of Torah values are concerned. It is not the YU of E”Y, but rather a “Jew-ish” Brandeis with a small kipa.
And the reason you do not get appeals from Zionist institutions in EY is that they are government controlled, sponsored and (overtly or covertly) monitored.
In the end, the economic crisis will be a nightmare for secular and religious Zionists alike as charedim enter the mainstream workforce and excel as we do in other countries. The failure to do so in E”Y has to do with politics and it indeed cannot stay that way.
And if there is an alternative service bill, then what you will see is 100 more Yad Sarahs and Ezer MiTzions and Migdal Ohrs that serve every sector of society and will end up bringing charedim even further into the mainstream. (That is why it is the medine that does not want charedim serving in any way; my friends who ended up leaving E”Y for Chabad shlichus abroad would have been a threat to the secularizing nature of the army and the last thing the medine wants is these guys manning social service organizations all over the country and spreading Yiddishkeit as they go along).
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cantoresq – Eichler’s in BP has just about any style yarmulke you can imagine.
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What everyone is forgetting is that haimish Yiddish is full of Torah references and words from loshon koidesh. As I posted before, even a no parking sign in Williamsburgh, let alone lehavdil a drosho by a Yiddish speaking rov or Chassidishe rebbe, is so close to loshon koidesh that you barely need to understand the Germanic and Slavic components of Yiddish to know what is being said. Yiddish, especially as spoken today in the haimishe world, is really an adaptation of loshon koidesh for daily or informal use.
I never really needed to learn Yiddish to understand the Lubavitcher Rebbe ZY”A who spoke in Yiddish; I picked up the non lh”k words I needed from context. I learned everyday spoken Yiddish from friends who insisted on preserving it and from the songs of Chassidishe entertainers. And if I can’t remember or don’t know a word, I often substitute lh”k/ivrit conjugated in Yiddish (others use English in the same way; I probably speak Yiddish mostly with people from E”Y and copied their speech patterns).
In fact a relative of mine who is secular but can read Yiddish looked at an old headline from the Forward about the Triangle Shirtwaist fire. When she saw the word “korbanois” written in loshon hakoidesh, she had no idea what the word meant and had to ask me to translate it because she never learned much in the way of lh”k or Ivrit.
The real holiness, though, is in keeping alive a language that is disdained by those who preached assimilation in the US and those who tried to create a new Jewish culture devoid of Torah roots in E”Y. And that is because the language as we speak it represents a world that was nearly exterminated by the fire of the Churban and the floods of assimilation and secularism.
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although the ‘jean wearing jobs’ dont demand jeans.
They are easier to wash, and for a building contractor or tradesman or auto mechanic who needs to work on his knees in crawl spaces, the thicker fabric provides more protection.
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These bochurim were very sheltered and were not properly warned, or like all of us they succumbed to temptation not knowing the circumstances.
As far as they were concerned, they were doing something along the lines of bringing one extra bottle of mashke or carton of cigarettes through the green line (or buying mashke underage in duty free) which everyone does and which is not even enforced.
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I still say go for the Iranian or Afghan woman (chador or burqa) but in tinfoil and with a funny sign about tznius…maybe something like “School Uniform for 5770”.
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However, we see that the Aguda has adapted itself well enough to the reality of life in the modern world that it indeed is the future and while Rav Soloveichik’s way is chas vesholom not the past, many of the children of his followers are moving closer to the Aguda in terms of hashkafah and practice.
And when Rav Kook’s followers protest the unraveling of their once hallowed dream by singing Reb Amram Bloy’s once almost notorious Hashem Hu Malkeinu (once known only as Hashem Hi Malkynee), that hitherto was mostly a Purimdige niggun in their circles and just about everywhere else, I think we know which way the arrows are pointing.
My Hashem Hu Malkeinu ringtone is not the narrishkeit of the ragtag Ku Klux Kartel singing off tune in a grotesque pronunciation that sounds like me singing who knows what words to “Gelt” on Purim; it is recorded in perfect modern Ivrit by Ariel Zilber, a former paratrooper and erstwhile secular recording star who saw the light after Gush Katif.
Hmm..strange hashgocho protis – no sooner was I ready to hit Send Post than Toker started to play….Gelt. What words should I write this year…….let’s see what happens in the elections and who sells out for a bissel nisht kusher GELT!
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Oy – this probably shows just how successful “food scientists” have been in using cheap, unhealthy ingredients to come up with something that is more tasty but of infinitely lower quality than its original natural predecessor. (in the same way that orange drink, which should have the i and n replaced with the fifth and third letters of the alphabet, tastes better than orange juice).
I haven’t had Hershey’s since I was a child and looking at those ingredients even if it were C”Y the only thing I would do with it is hmmmm…leave it firmly on the shelf.
Interesting re powdered CY – thanks to all who mentioned it as I have seen hechsherim saying “for those who consume powdered chalav nochri” in E”Y and I always wondered why they mentioned powder. As for butter, one kosher list in this part of the world that mentions C”S products as an aside recommends but does not endorse only one very reliable upscale brand of butter from a country with the strictest standards – now I understand why.
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As for the exact gedarim, it can’t be given.
Well, I would think that a song, if you call it that, with words that advocate misogyny and disrespect to law enforcement officials, (aka gangsta rap) is beyond kashering LOL.
I must ,however, reserve my utter disgust for itzik. The scenario he depicts is a second Holocaust and a third churban. Enough said.
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Please see a qualified learning specialist. You cannot seriously believe that the replacement of the corrupt medine by malchus beis Dovid, which is the wish of every Jew INCLUDING those who follow in the way of Rav Kook, is a second Holocaust and a third Churban. Had you READ what I WROTE you would see I was discussing two scenarios that are purely HYPOTHETICAL before making it clear that like all anti-Zionists who are not of the Ku Klutz Kartel variety,
I believe that ONLY Moshiach can now supplant the medine – but unlike the Zionists I do not wish for it to succeed but rather for Jews living in E”Y to be safe and prosper. We ALL know the medine is failing us in that respect and that only its becoming a truly Jewish state, which is impossible without Moshiach, will allow for “yisroel yishkon lavetach”.
I also realize that every Jew must be brought closer to Hashem and if dealing with the corrupt medine, a/k/a going deep into the mud, to make sure one more Jew has a Torah education, so that there is one less customer for the pork store that is open on Shabbos and one less potential mate for Elena whose mother is not Jewish even if some halfwit Sochnut shaliach changed her name to Elanit when he pushed through her emigration, is what is necessary then so be it so long as it is professional askonim backed by daas Torah who are engaging with the corrupt and unholy medine for the sake of klal Yisroel.
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And the more I think about it, there is NO POINT explaining the dangers of Obama to citizens of E”Y or Ukraine who cannot vote or in any way affect American opinion.
However, the fact that they don’t understand means that they do not understand that the old American values, and not socialism and vapid liberal lunacy, are what Torah is all about.
And that scares me, along with a couple of loudmouth frum Jews in name and appearance only who loudly supported and riled up others to support Obama, revealing that for them frumkeit is just another alternative lifestyle that they sort of adopted while their real values are mired in the 1960’s. I fear for their kids, who make up a large part of the OTD crowd because of the mixed messages they get at home. Many of them are the ones who are most financially and socially dependent on the community, and they will get quite a potch when their rabbis and community leaders are starved for resources and have to cut down on their support of these ungrateful Deadheads who tax their funds and patience alike.
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Well – Entenmanns is apparently made with CS powder so you are off the hook on that one according to some very valid opinions.
Milky Way? You are surrounded by all that delicious Syrian food and you consider Milky Way EDIBLE??? Feed that to stray cats in the UK and you will land 60 days as a not very honored guest of Her Majesty the Queen.
Hershey’s: here are the ingredients: “Chocolate: Hardly any.” An actual Hershey’s chocolate bar only contains between 4% and 10 % chocolate. The rest of it is sugars, emulsifiers, milk solids, and other fillers.
From the label: Ingredients: SUGAR, CHOCOLATE, COCOA BUTTER, COCOA PROCESSED WITH ALKALI, MILK FAT, LACTOSE, SOY LECITHIN, PGPR, VANILLIN, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, AND MILK.
(taken from WikiAnswers) NO COMMENT LOL!
Herr’s – you mean the sour creme and onion ones?
Otherwise the inyan is bishul Yisroel; some people including some very good friends of mine whose kashrus I trust more than my own eat non Bishul Yisroel potato chips b/c potato chips are not roui leshulchan melochim. I don’t want them anyway because most are cooked in oil that makes WD-40 seem healthy so I am machmir LOL – so machmir I don’t eat the bishul yisroel ones here in Ukraine or in the US!
Again, if potato chips of any description are food, I am a polar bear.
Seriously, in your case you’ll be better off in many ways if you give up CS junk food for health reasons! I’d have a hard time convincing you to give up Haagen-Dasz or Ben and Jerry’s but that junk food you mention is about as healthy as breathing car exhaust :(.
Then you can ease into CY as I did; give up the hardest thing last. And if you really want CY junk you can find it LOL; Blooms, Paskesz and Elite-Megadim among others are your friends :).
I have been told by several people (one of them a close talmid of Rav Shach, zatzal, now a well known Rosh Yeshiva but I don’t want to mention his name without his permission) that Rav Shach, zatzal, said that l’shita he agreed with the Satmar Rav a hundred percent, just that he felt that l’maaseh it was impossible to follow it in the present time.
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Which, surprisingly is not far from a known quote of the Lubavitcher Rebbe ZYA regarding either Satmar, the real NK or both. The Rebbe said that if the kanoim were not out there doing what they did, he would have to do it (implying that this would jeopardize the work Chabad does with victims of the medine going back to accepting bochurim from the infamous maabarot into Tomchei Tmimim at the time of the mass aliya from Teiman and Morocco and thereby saving them from the forced secularization at the hands of none other than Yossi Sarid’s father OLBM at the behest of Mapai). When Torah askonim of any community are dealing with the medine, they are doing so to save Jews and to preserve Torah uMitzvos in E”Y; they are NOT recognizing that the medine has legitimacy or chas vesholom holiness, rather that it happens to control E”Y in these dark days of golus and that not one Jew can be left behind.
The Ku Klutz Kartel are wrong in that they:
1) Demonstrate against the medine along with terror supporters, in ways that encourage anti-Semites including dangerous ones. The Satmar Rov (Reb Yoilish ZYA) pointed out that for non-Jews, being against the medine is being against Jews. When we protest, it is one thing to protest anti-Torah policies and another thing to call for the destruction of the medine and claiming it should be replaced with an Arab state. The successor to the memsheles zadoin is NOT HAMAS or FATAH chas vesholom. It is malchus beis Dovid, and if dealing with the corrupt medine brings one Jew one step closer to Torah then it has to be done – but by professional askonim who do not get swayed or corrupted themselves. (I know that this is not always the case and that is why the Satmar shita of no engagement whatsoever is very admirable but not always practical or recommended for everyone).
2) Engage in dialogue with and support for our mortal enemies, enabling themselves to be used by same.
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Awww..never mind CY and CS (which of course is very important to me but you have who to rely on if you eat CS and for that matter chocolate probably contains only CS powdered milk which apparently only we Chassidim consider CY) – you just don’t know what good chocolate is! Milk Munch does NOT qualify LOL – if it is what I think it is, the last time I had a piece is when someone offered it to me and I took it so as not to offend them because they were nice enough to bring enough over to be able to offer it to guests. To put it mildly, I did not want a second one even when offered LOL.
However, it is about time that someone once again breaks the CY cartel and produces good CY at a major plant the way Goldman’s did.
The sad demise of Ahava shows that the community just can’t support a decent (but not particularly high quality, even if it was healthier) CY dairy because such a dairy cannot achieve the proper economies of scale and it is beholden to moisdos and groceries which cannot always afford to pay on time.
What we need is a CY line that is similar in price to CS and is distributed to the major outlets. If CY can be sold as a premium quality product that just happens to be CY and is no more than 5-10 cents a half gallon more than CS (and if gallons are available for big families outside the city who have more room and bigger fridges), it will be ideal.
That will radically change the CY situation and make it easier for more and more people to keep CY. Problem is that it has to be done outside the framework of the haimishe firms and stores; the product must be available to the general public as well.
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My rav in NY actually told me not to worry about eating melave malka because it just about causes me agmas nefesh to eat again so soon after a big Shabbos meal. Usually I just have two flatbreads and listen to some music so I am sort of yotze.
But I love it when we have a melave malka farbrengen or a sheva brochos two or three odd hours after Shabbos ends in the winter; I make sure to walk to wherever it is held so I can eat and enjoy myself.
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Also, the problem here is that we (and I am the most guilty because I discussed CY in the wrong thread) are confusing halacha with minhag.
Not wearing jeans is a communal minhag but if they are clean and respectable the issur is only a communal one with no real halachic validity. (Ditto for denim skirts; I understand that some communities frown upon them as do some families, but in most places if they are clean and the right length you’re usually well within the rules).
On the other hand, going to shul in dirty jeans or hip hop styles is a bizayoin. If you are a known entity in your shul and you show up like that, unless it is obvious you’re in the middle of cleaning your home or car and you wanted to run to minyan because you might be #10, expect stares and dirty looks because you’re not treating the shul with proper respect.
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The saddest thing is when I have to continually explain to frum people from E”Y who should know better that Obama is not David Levy, a man from a supposedly disadvantaged minority who rises to power against all odds; he is Achmed Tibi, a fifth column who was assisted in his rise to power by foreign governments and anti-American movements.
They are not old enough to remember Jimmy Carter and what he did to E”Y as well as the US.
I, on the other hand, remember when our school nearly ran out of funds and would have had to cut services and fire teachers (well, I wasn’t too unhappy that the music teacher would be canned LOL), and I remember when my mother got an embarrassing 25 cent food stamp token in change because due to layoffs and closings so many food stamps were being used in our suburban supermarket that the cashier had no quarters in her till! (I probably still have the shtempale in my old coin collection which is in storage at my parents’ house :)).
Most of all, I remember the hostage crisis and the humiliation of America by the likes of a Khomeini; now it may be Chavez as well as Ahmadinejad who embarrass America under Obama.
Fait Accompli example: A couple gets married against our advise and have children. Afterwards we will pray for their happiness and success.
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A Jew goes off the path and marries a non-Jewish woman despite all of our efforts to stop the intermarriage.
We daven day and night and do whatever we can so that either the non-Jewish partner becomes a ger tzedek and the children convert (the equivalent of the medine electing, if not a frum government, at least a government that is proudly Jewish and will uphold Jewish values, defend our mekoimois kedoishim, and cease to cause anti-Semitism throughout the world by its incompetent actions and lack of ability to either wage a decisive war or make a decisive peace).
Alternately, we do what we can so that the marriage breaks up (in this case we daven for the peaceful dissolution of the medine so that, as Aguda really wanted, Jews would have rights to have Torah communities, access to mekoimois hakedoishim, but no sovereignty). We tell the non-Jewish partner that she is not ours and we will not tolerate the way she has corrupted a pure Jew (the medine vs the Jewish people) but we cannot kill the non-Jewish partner or cause her any harm.
Since neither in the case of the hypothetical marriage nor in the case of the medine will this happen al pi teva, we daven for Moshiach to come and replace the memsheles zadoin with Malchus Beis Dovid, all the while trying to ensure, by whatever means necessary including dealing with and in a way subverting the corrupt structures of the medine (Aguda of today, Chabad), that no further physical or spiritual damage is caused by the medine.
This present state has NO sanhedrin and no kedusha. Those who serve in its army do indeed protect their fellow Jews, but the reason the army has not been wiped out is ONLY because of the Torah life which goes on in E”Y DESPITE the best efforts of the medine. The failures of 1973 and Lebanon and the recent cowardly surrender in Aza should make that clear by now.
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Something with tinfoil can be funny and easy to do; maybe a tinfoil burqa or chador and a sign marked “Approved by the Mishmeres haTznius”! I think the school would LOVE that!
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Syrian, they don’t sell the Schmerling and Camille Bloch chocolate where you are? I can’t stomach any of the snack type chocolates and hope no one wastes any on me for Purim because I don’t pass on sholoch mones LOL :). Hershey’s is very heavily processed low quality chocolate and if you can get hold of the real thing (Swiss CY or maybe Vered HaGalil from EY is still good) you’ll never go back.
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Does everyone sing Al Tira Avdi Yaakov at a melave malka or is that strictly Chassidish?
If He wanted us to do the chumras, THEY would have been the halacha m’Sinai.
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Many of the chumras are just that; they were proper halacha but due to economic and social hardship in Europe and the Eastern lands as well as the travails of the early emigration to the US, it was impossible to keep halacha on a proper level. Now, with economic prosperity and social freedom everywhere Jews live except Iran (and now Venezuela), we enjoy our freedom as Hashem wants us to, by giving up the phony yoke of social correctness in favor of ol malchus Shamayim. However, since there are those sincere Yidden who still live in the old times and do not realize why we have our freedom, the halachic corrections are mistakenly called chumras instead of what they are – corrections or hachzoros atoro leyoishno.
On the other hand, heterim and kulas are not meant for everyday living. They are meant for situations such as travel, interaction with secular relatives, baalei tshuva at various times in their personal development, physical and psychological limitations and illnesses L”A etc.
If the first immigrants to the US had been able to hold on to Yiddishkeit instead of kosher and Shabbos keeping Yidden having become a minority very quickly, we probably would have had cholov Yisroel, pas Yisroel, and glatt as the standard in the United States as the CY standard would have developed in 1880 and not 1955 so that the large firms would have had to have allowed mashgichim for C”Y (which is not hard anymore and one day the present situation will be fixed when a major firm goes C”Y and brings costs down).
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I think the teachers would love the Ahmadinejad idea but somehow I don’t think you can pull it off :). It is more for a guy who usually shaves and would prepare by not shaving for a few days…and not showering for a month!
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Syrian, the CY chocolate out there is far better than the CS (and between where you are and Lakewood you can get it on sale for the same price at times, especially now around Purim). The CY is real Swiss chocolate; the CS is full of all kinds of chemicals. Some of the rest of the stuff you mention, if you mean well known brands of single serving cakes and baked snacks, is best avoided for health reasons whether it is CY or CS.
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Drinking 96% alcohol is an old Russian tradition but pure and perfectly drinkable grain alcohol (like Everclear in the US) is only legally sold as heavily taxed rubbing alcohol in pharmacies here and in Russia.
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Prepared for Purim today – I drank the rubbing alcohol (pure 96%) that I keep in my shul locker for ummm…emergencies.
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Syrian, you get used to it and you end up not missing whatever you used to eat. Ice cream was the hardest for me to give up. I used to make myself fleishig all day so I would not be tempted to eat Haagen-Dasz when I switched to CY. Now I don’t care to eat dairy ice cream anymore; the only time I do is Shavuos.
Unless something has changed, there is excellent CY cheese (mozzarella, string cheeze etc) under the JSOR. I used to go to the Syrian shops in Brooklyn just for that – it is hand made and natural.
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Hmmm…dress up as Ahmadinejad with a noose wound (LIGHTLY) around the neck.
Dress up as a wannabe Ku Klutz Kartel – wear a tinfoil Yerushalmi bekeshe over your brightest color dress and high heels and carry a sign like “Jews Out Of Palestine, TX!” or “We Have No Connection with Judaism or the Jewish People!”
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Gut Shabbos all/let this past Shabbos have been the last Shabbos in golus so that we can hear the Leviim sing shira this shabbos!
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ChanieE – considering that the Queen of England is but the matriarch of the world’s most famous dysfunctional welfare family, I would have no problem meeting her while wearing jeans – if I actually had a pair :).
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Is that cheque guaranteed by Madoff or by his largest legal competitor, namely the Social Security Administration?
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It is well known that shidduchim where the essentials, such as color of Shabbos tablecloth and style of shoe, either do not match or are not up to the other party’s standards, lead to unhappy marriages and then L”A divorce.
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And one more thing – Lipa Schmeltzer is sparking a new interest in Yiddish as he has basically demystified the Chassidish lifestyle of which his dialect of Yiddish is a part and made it creative, offbeat and welcoming (which was the intention of the Baal Shem Tov).
I am sure more Lipa’s are on the way and people will be learning to at least understand Yiddish from Chassidish singers and badchonim who enter the general Jewish market with their albums and performances (my daily vocabulary improved quite a bit when Avremel released his Yom Tov Ehrlich tapes and listening to Lipa, Michoel Schnitzler and Yonason Schvartz helps me quite a bit when it comes to everyday speech).
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And one last thing – let’s just say that Yiddish IS holy. Fine – but that does not make YOU not holy or less holy for not being able to understand it. The kever of Rabbi Yaakov Abouhassira ZYA (Abir Yaakov) in Egypt is holy but I am not less holy because I don’t want to visit it or any other part of Egypt for any reason even though I could have done so many times.
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It depends who you are and what you do. If your community allows them and they are clean and respectful then so be it. If you are wearing them as a sign of rebellion, then you will be treated accordingly.
However, many haimish contractors, repairmen, building supplies dealers, food preparers/butchers etc wear jeans to work and I do not see how they can change for mincha in the winter nor would they be expected to.