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If you’re female, then probably yes. Otherwise no, because why would you ask?
There is another common denominator, they all breathe.
Maybe they’re pulling their hair out trying to figure out the Gemmoroh.
simcha613: Your assessment is accurate. I would add another issue as well. While I do want Chareidim and Datiim both to have control of the religious needs of the Country, I have a problem with the way the Chareidim go about it.
The overbearing approach, that has nothing to do with Halacha is a big problem that turns people away as opposed to drawing them near to Torah. The administration nightmare that a Chiloni has to get married, without their having a Halachic barrier, is unnecessary. It’s just a control thing. Many opt to go to Europe for a civil ceremony, which creates many other Halachic problems. They wouldn’t do that if the Rabbinite was decentralized enough for someone to go to an approved, more local, Orthodox Rabbi for marry them.
I think their rational is two-fold. One is the fear that if they loosen their grip even the slightest, it would be a slippery slope away from Halacha. This I can understand. Unfortunately, the bigger issue is the control and power that goes with it.
When it comes to issues involving Halacha where there is no viable compromise, the opportunity exists to educate and inform the masses in a proper way that most will understand and except. A sledge-hammer approach, which is often the first way, should be the last option.
Most Chilonim, other than the hard-core Leftists, want anything to do with religion to be authentic. Those people can be educated and would understand the rational for things, if they are explained properly.
Chareidi political leaders mostly don’t have tact or basic diplomacy skills and just alienate people. That is one of the reasons for Lapid’s rapid rise, since the average secular Israeli is disgusted with the constant demands for more and more, while at the same time, the unwillingness to do anything to contribute to the general society (as they see it).
I hear that more then a few Chareidim voted for Lapid, because they themselves want change but fear the backlash from within. That’s sad, that people can’t discuss issues open and honestly about what their needs are.
DaasYochid: Obviously not. A little seichel wouldn’t have hurt either. That’s a basic think that anyone should know, yet, these people clearly didn’t.
HaLeiVi, the situation I was describing was clearly a sakana, so there shouldn’t have even been a question or doubt. The point I was making was that this Kollel guy had a lot of learning behind him, but no practical knowledge.
It’s sad to hear that. I would think learning particle Halacha is very important.
For example: Friends, who lived just upstairs from my daughter and son-in-law, both learned in a very chushuv kollel in Yerushalayim, came downstairs one Shabbos early afternoon. They said they couldn’t stay in their apartment because the pilot light went out on their stove and couldn’t stand the smell of the gas.
My s-i-l asked them why they didn’t shut the stove and they said “Shabbos.” The fact that it was a sakana and the building could have exploded was lost in their thinking. My s-i-l got up and went to their apartment and closed the gas. There also had been disasters stemming from the very same issue before.
So, their Talmud Chochom friend really wasn’t that much of a chochom.
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I don’t know if it’s good or not. I suggest you call one of the Kashrus agencies you trust and ask.
ubiquitin: What didn’t you understand? I’ll try to clarify if you are saying what I think you are saying.
There are two basic scenario’s about Moshiach coming. While it seems we are headed for the harshest way, one way will be easier for us and the other much more difficult. Either way, IY”H, we will get there when the time is right. It’s just that a Herzog/Livni puts us in much more danger in getting there.
It is impossible for us to wake up the next morning to know who the Prime Minister will be. First, all the party heads go to the President to make their recommendation on who should be Prime minister. He appoints the one most likely to succeed. Then the haggling begins.
If Ch’v, Herzog becomes Prime minister, he will capitulate to Obama and every Arab demand. It would put Eretz Yisroel in mortal danger. The saving grace to this is, that it would force people to do Teshuva and bring Moshiach, though we prefer Moshiach comes without the hardship that would be inevitable.
When you see Herzog, you see his weakness in his facial expression and body language. He is a political lightweight. He has proven, with his agreement with Livni, that his negotiation skills are abysmal.
Whatever happens, is min HaShamayim and will ultimately be for the good.
It depends on age and situation. I know some very wealthy people that make their children work to pay for their things so they would have an appreciation for what they have and not just expect everything to be handed to them.
When our daughters returned from Seminary and worked, we covered all their expenses, provided they saved their money for when they got married. If they wasted it on nonsense, we wouldn’t have done so. B”H, we had responsible kids, so we weren’t worried about them being spoiled.
It’s a credit that you deduct off the taxes you owe, as in any other tax credit. This is better than direct funding, since direct funding always comes with strings attached.
Age of marriage hardly proves maturity levels. f it did, the divorce rate would be much lower.
It’s an individual thing. I agree with the people who said that responsibility leads to maturity faster.
How do you get Paul Frederick shirts for $20? Their biggest prom that I haven’t seen in a long time, was 3 for $100.
oomis: Her husband was impeached. He just wasn’t removed from office. They are two different thing.
She’s a Clinton. They get away with almost anything, but it is adding up between this, Benghazi, etc. Ultimately, things hit the fan.
I suggest you call a reliable Kashrus Agency and ask them.
Joseph: Jews aren’t that large enough number to do that. Also, have you ever heard the term “Musaf?” I haven’t heard that in a long time, but it refers to how too many Jews live in certain sections of NY.
On issues like this that Goyim see, it is important for us to make a clear statement that they are a radical fringe minority. They are creating a Chillul Hashem and harming Jews in the process and we need to counter them.
Give it back to the cashier. It’s a Kiddush Hashem to do it that way.
Joseph: I never said that either. You guys just make things up.
Also, when you don’t live in Israel, the news you get is far more limited.
mw13: I’ll try to find the source for the Chazon Ish’s comment. I read it a number of years ago and don’t remember the source.
“What are you talking about? The Chareidim aren’t working because either A) they’re busy learning Torah B) Israeli law does not permit them to or C) they cannot find suitable employment in a Chareidi-friendly atmosphere. This is not being “forced” by anybody.”
A. Go in the streetsa of Yerushalayim and see able bodied people there all times of day. Not everyone is learning and certainly not learning full time.
B. There is no such law. Not serving in the IDF is no excuse. There is Sheirut Leumi, doing community service work that could be done in their own communities. You also have to have skills to get a decent paying job and since any secular education is frowned upon in their communities, how are they going to be equipped for gainful employment.
C. Real bad excuse. It is not uncommon for people in Israel to tele-commute, meaning working from home, if your qualified for a computer or other professional type jobs.
“Is it any less justifiable than saying that Dati women do not have to serve in the IDF, as per the ruling of the Cheif Rabbinate? Or any less justifiable than the Arabs not having to serve?”
Chareidim have the same option as Dati women (some do go to the IDF) by choosing Sheirut Leumi. Your Arab comment makes me question your sanity!
“Bennet brought Lapid to power by making a pact with him as soon as the elections were over”
Bennett didn’t bring Lapid to power. You don’t understand Israeli politics. Lapid had 19 seats and there was no way of forming a government without him. Bennett used Lapid to get into the government, since Bennett was on the outs with Netanyahu at the time. He also offered the same deal to Shas first and Deri turned him down, leaving him with only Lapid as an option.
B”H. Bennett was in the government. You have no idea how many things he stopped Lapid from doing that would have been very harmful to the Frum world.
“And here we have it. This is where you’ve given up the charade of presenting facts, and revealed your true motive: bashing the Chareidim.”
That’s absolutely ludicrous. Personally, I’m more Chardall. I have Chareidi children. Are you saying I hate my own children? No, people have obligations not to rely on charity. If someone is a real learner, they should stay learning. Many aren’t and are just using the system as an excuse.
There is also a lot of abuse, like people working for a Yeshiva and getting government subsidy as if they are learning full time. People claiming they are learning and are not. If those types of fraud weren’t happening, there would be more money for Yeshiva;s and families. So blame the abusers and enablers of the fraud. They are the ones that lead to the creation of a Lapid.
Also, when was the Kesuvah changed that the women are supposed to support the family in addition to every other family responsibility?
You live in the U.S., I presume. Is the same expectation exist that the men don’t have to work and the women support the family indefinitely? Learning in Kollel is a great thing for a while, but you can work and learn too.
Don’t imply hatred where none exists. You only show that you’re a fool and ignorant too.
charliehall: The problem, as I see it, is not with you. Those polls or stories can’t be accurate. People who go off the derech do so for a variety of reasons and the fact that almost all Dati Leumi kids go to the army, doesn’t make the IDF the cause if any do go off the Derech. They may have had problems before and were headed in that direction, IDF or no IDF.
The percentage of Frum kids going off the derech in the U.S. is very significant, including in Chassidish communities. Can they blame that on the IDF too? I’d bet, that the percentage going off the derech in the U.S. is far greater than in Israel.
The only way a study could be accurate is if you interview everyone going off the derech and if they answer honestly.
I live in a mixed community with most boys going to the IDF. I have yet to see any go off the derech. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen, just that no one should blame any specific reason without very in depth study.
From Baalei Teshuva that I’ve spoken with, many credit the IDF and religious soldiers for helping them find their way.
People with agenda’s can skew any statistics to prove anything. It’s all anecdotal. There has never been a real in depth independent study done that really proves any side of the issue.
vashtischwartz: Just because Charlie Hall says something, doesn’t make it accurate. If someone is going off the derech, they will without the IDF, or it was just a handy excuse. You don’t see Hesder Yeshiva students going off the derech.
Many Chilonim have become Baalei Teshuva after interacting with Frum soldiers in the IDF. I bought something from a Chassidish guy in Meah Shearim (he lives there too) and he told me that he became a Baal Teshuvah because of the IDF.
The argument that you have to go to the IDF to work and that is the reason for poverty in the Chareidi community is false. They have the option of Sheirut Leumi, doing community service in their own neighborhoods and that gives people the same benefits as serving in the IDF. It’s just an excuse people give to avoid taking personal responsibility.
MK Gafne said, “If you work, you’re not a Chareidi.” Something is very wrong with that mentality. I grew up in the states and only made Aliyah 2 1/2 years ago. I grew up in BP and also lived in a very Frum community outside of NY consisting of Yeshivish and Chassidish people and Davened in a Chassidish Shteibel for almost 30 years, the equivalent of Chareidi in Israel. Everyone learned, but they also worked and supported their families. The arguments of blaming others is utter nonsense.
BuyPaint: Why would you even contemplate going to a place that you describe as you do? Ask yourself, where does Hashem want Bnai Yisroel to be and then act accordingly.
coffee addict: Going someplace for sunshine and/or fundraising doesn’t make it Kodosh.
cool dude: For example. Arab countries. Their corrupt dictators have always used Israel to misdirect people off their own living conditions. The Theory goes, create an external enemy to divert attention and blame others for their plight.
Communist countries did the same against the West. It’s standard procedure. Because of religious reasons, Jews were always the best scapegoat for the world.
vashtischwartz: How is the government forcing poverty on people? That’s nonsense. On the contrary, people in poverty get public funds and don’t pay taxes. That serves no ones benefit.
You can’t blame the government for peer pressure against getting the necessary skills, working and making a decent living. You have to have skills that people are willing to pay for.
How many Chareidim are being forced into the army? So far, NONE! It is a law in Israel that everyone of age serves in the army. Full-time Yeshiva students have been exempt all these years. Many Rabbonim have said, that if you’re not learning, you should serve.
What you are saying that a Chareidi who is NOT learning shouldn’t have to make the same commitment as everyone else. How is that justifiable? They also have the option of Sheirut Leumi, of doing community service in their own neighborhoods. Let everyone else’s children make the sacrifices, afterall, you’re better than they are.
So your answer is; don’t work, don’t support your family, don’t learn and don’t do community service. Let everyone else do everything for you and they should pay you for the privilege of taking care of you. Then blame them that you’re in poverty because they can’t afford to do more for you.
That makes sense!
rabbiofberlin: The Chazon Ish said that we needed two generations of exclusive Torah learning to rebuild Torah after WWII. That has long ended and B”H it was successful. Now it’s time to get back to normal.
Many Chareidim want to be able to support their families. Not everyone is sitting and learning, nor can they. Poverty is being forced on them by their leadership. While it was foolish to force the issue, especially since it backfired, Chareidim, in increasing numbers, were joining the IDF or doing Sheirut Leumi.
You have to understand Israeli politics. The last government was held together by a thread. That gave Lapid lots of power. At the same time, Bennett countered him in every way possible and minimized the damage. There were even articles in the Chareidi press that Chareidi politicians weren’t too upset by the bill despite their yelling, because they knew that it really had no teeth and could have been far worse.
Those bochrim that were arrested for a short time, weren’t being drafted. They only had to report for a rating, as they always had, but were told not too go. That forced the government’s hand to take action.
It’s not just an issue of the IDF, it’s about getting out of poverty. The demand for more and more welfare, by an already overburden public, among other issues, created a backlash that created Lapid.
There are better ways of doing things than a constant heavy handed approach to everything, without changing anyone’s hashkofo. Just being more diplomatic. It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it and if it’s not a halachic issue, compromise once in a while and have an understanding of other people’s needs too.
gavra_at_work: The issue was decided in a court that McCain was eligible to run.
squeak: Do you know what kind of upheaval would have been created if she didn’t say that. There are legit. unanswered questions, including why his birth certificate is a conglomeration of many others with a cut and paste job, as noted by computer experts. Among quite a few other things.
There shouldn’t be a question on a Presidents status. There is no real constitutional remedy when there is a question. So, who knows what the truth really is.
The whole issue was stonewalled from day one, including Obama’s college records and how he was able to tour countries that were prohibited by U.S. law. Why did Obama fight releasing everything?
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but these are legit. questions.
The first question to ask is the status of intelligent life in this world.
Golfer: For many of the secularists, especially the Leftists, this is the “Post Zionist” era. The real Zionists today are the religious Zionists, not the Herzl zionists.
Patur: Aside from that, should Jews really set foot on that blood soak soil? Also, why give economic benefit to those anti-semites?
charliehall: I just noticed your comment on the first page. Every President uses speech writers, since they lack time. Reagan used to edit his own speeches and did write many of them.
The teleprompter is a different issue. It’s fine to use one, but Obama actually took a teleprompter into a children’s classroom to make a speech.
147: There are many different perspectives within the Frum world in Israel. I guess you’re really talking about Chareidim specifically, but for the most part, each one wants what is best for their own specific group.
Those of us actually eligible to vote, we should be voting for what’s best for the greater good that would bring Eretz Yisroel closer to the Geulah and not some self serving purpose.
While his party is small at this point, I have a lot of respect for what Eli Yishai is trying to do by bringing various factions together.
There was a story a few years back that the Koreans wanted to find out why Jews were so smart and concluded that it was because of Talmud studies.
Google it. There are lots of stories on it, including an Aish Hatorah and Arutz 7 articles.
You marry an individual not Yichus. It’s nice and everything, but if that is the reason someone marries, they will most likely regret it. Same as marrying for money.
You brother is lucky, the girl thinks too much of herself living on the backs of descendants who earned the yichus and not having her priorities straight.
What it seems like is that the person was effectively selling the product at low cost and since he didn’t need the money, he asked that the payment be given to Tzeddakah instead.
Seems like a win-win for everyone involved.
Whose Zionism are you talking about, religious or not? What is Eretz Tzion if not religious Zionism based on the Torah. The Land of Israel is Tzion.
It should be obvious to every Jews by now that Israel could not have survived and thrived without Hashem. So while it isn’t ideal yet, Israel’s creation and existence can only be Min Hashamayim. Only the hard core, cult like among us can’t recognize reality after all this time and are so ingrained in their position that they won’t even consider what is right before their noses.
From day one, all the occurrences that initiated lead to the Geulah Shlayma have the appearance of being not kosher, i.e., Yehuda and Tamar, Boaz and Rus, Dovid HaMelech and Batsheva. There is a reason Hashem did things this way, so as to fool the Sitra Achra, who was given certain powers to dissuade us from acting as we should and doesn’t want the Geulah.
So, why is the founding of the State of Israel any different. Any soldier, Frum or not, can tell you all the Nissim that happened to them. Even military leaders in West Point, after analyzing Israeli wars say that they can’t explain it that militarily, we should have lost. Hashem is watching over us.
We had a Kosher Subway near us a while back and it just wasn’t that good and it wasn’t worth the price.
coffee addict: Midrash Ne’elam, Toldos 140a. You can also see it in the Sha’arei Leshem, page 489
Global warming has been debunked, only the Left won’t let it go. They just changed it to “climate change.” The university that made the whole thing up was caught when their e-mails exposed a few years ago.
The same whether patterns take place on Mars as here. What does that tell anyone? The whole thing has to do with sun spot and solar flare activities.
Someone research newspapers going back to the mid/late 1800’s and found that every 25 years there is alternating hysteria’s between global warming and the coming ice age.
In the 1970’s, I remember we were warned that we were headed or another ice age.
The issue is two fold:
1: It’s a way to control the masses
2. Major dollars are at stake. Al Gore almost became a billionaire off that scam.
It’s the “big lie theory” at work. Repeat it often enough and people will believe it.
The relationship may not be the best idea, but I’ve also seen that when they are forced into it, they go underground and often the results are far worse.
I suggest you speak candidly with your daughter and agree on set limits. If you can’t prevent it completely, it’s probably the next best thing.
FriendInFlatbush: The Chofetz Chaim spoke about Milchemes Gog U’ Mogog, saying that it would be a three part way. The first being WW1 and the second, in about 25 years afterwards, a war that would be devastating to Jews and the third part, a type of war unlike any other.
Terrorism seams to fit that bill very well, so it would appear that this is certainly part of Gog U’ Mogog.
The Zohar says that Techias Hamaysim is supposed to begin between 210-214 years before the year 6,000. We are not very far away from that now, with so much needed to occur before that.
GolemGorilla: You didn’t say he is difficult on you,just that he is hostile to Frumkeit. If that is so, set the right example that he may come to understand that his judgement is wrong. He did hire you, or allow your hire, didn’t he?
Most of these guys, who are hostile, do it out of guilt. At issue here, for the sake of your job, how does he treat you? Just don’t compromise your principles, That would just show him that we’re fakers. Just be mentchlach about what and how you do things and be respectful. He may come around.
It’s because the Bais Yaakovs brainwash girls that the should only marry someone who will learn in kollel indefinitely. While some girls don’t fall for it, many do and the peer pressure adds to it.
It’s unconstitutional and won’t happen. The whole concept and the attempt just shows that the Left only believes in free speech if you say what they want to hear.
scared driver delight: Hopefully it won’t happen, but you will probably eat those words, since you’ll most likely marry the wrong person for ridiculous reasons.
People need to have their priorities straight. Besides, life happens. People’s health and looks can change and if that happens after you marry someone for the wrong reasons, you end up regretting it.
Don’t walk in the street, you might see a woman.
sm29: Great sentiment. It should only be!
akuperma: Most businesses have video cameras in their stores and on the registers. If the cashier pocketed the money, the camera would see it.
Losing her temper wasn’t the best response on her part, but not covering you mouth is also disgusting. You should check your manners too. I know that sometimes there is little warning, but there is always something you can do to prevent sneezing on someone.