The poor suffering pereh odoms seem to be driving nice new cars!
Does the Daas Torah that Yeshiva World editors consult with approve of calling human beings Animals? Tzelem Elokhim applies to all living humans, not just Jews. Regardless, even if there was some twisted defense for calling people animals…don’t you think doing so on a public forum and Jewish News site that is accessible to the world is just a HUGE CHILLUL HASHEM and warrants a little more decency and discretion.
As disturbing as handing out candy in Gaza is…I dont expect better from them. I do expect better from Frum Jews (or alteast I used to before reading such garbage on the yeshiva world news).
Its a insult to the animals to call these ישמאלים a
Animals aren’t malicious, the more appropriate word describing them would be BEASTS!
I fully agree with your description of them. Please remember the next time you report some neturei karta gathering or protest – not to equate the two. No Jew, misguided as he might be, advocates such things, or gives out candies in celebration of someone else’s misfortune. BTW, they (or others like them) did the same after 9/11. The Palestinians – not NK!
Came here to see an animal dance. Disappointed:(
Mel: The Torah calls them “pereh Odom.” Odom is a man, but pereh isn’t.
Mel,
I once heard a shiur about this subject, using the Nazis ym”sh as an example of people who destroyed the tzelem Elokim within them. I don’t remember any of the references but the basic gist was that a person can act in such a depraved way that they remove the tzelem Elokim and become worse than animals.
In that case the headline is still wrong.
Mel. A backbone would be helpful for you, animals was unfortunately a compliment. Stand up against murderers and denounce them as human beings!
אדם ביקר ולא יבין נמשל כבהמות נדמו
Mel, shame on you to defend these lower than animal subhumans. Anyone who celebrates killings of innocents, anyone who condones and engages the killing of innocent human beings are subhuman, lower than animal creatures.
And Mel they are eating in the street. “One who eats in the street is like a dog” sorry I don’t have Hebrew letters on my phone
Mel,
are you defending those who celebrate after they blow up a bus full of innocent civilians?
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I truly humbled by the lack of reading comprehension in these comments. I guess I shouldn’t expect more from people who don’t value secular education.
I never defended the Gazans celebrating in the streets. I was just asking if Daas Torah was consulted about a decision to refer to fellow humans as Animals in a public forum that can both incite violence and cause a Chilul Hashem, as well as give fuel to those who are still deciding which side they support.
I suspect the responses here about pero odam, eating in the streets and calling Gazans Beasts and animals is not coming from Daas Torah.
For some reason I just can’t see someone like Rav Aryeh Levin ZTL, who witnesses real violence back in the day referring to them as sub-human, beasts, and animals.
I cry every time I hear about terrorism and any tragedy, and especially so when they are my fellow Jews…but it really breaks my heart when I discover that some Jews have become so callous and start distorting torah in the krum-est way possible to justify disturbing hatred and racism, especially in a public forum that can put the lives of countless Jews more at risk.
When you hang out in the Otzer, kol hakavod, say what you want…but publishing on a Jewish News site, accessible to the world… i just hope you consult with Daas Torah, because it could be risking the lives of countless Jews and can fuel the other sides belief that both sides are full of hatred and racism.
We are Yidden. We are supposed to rise above.
Hevey Dan as KOL odam lkaf zechus. This doesn’t say Kol Yisroel or Kol odam cutch mipereh odam, it says Kol Adam.
In the video alone there is one guy handing out candy and dozens of cars driving by ignoring him. I only saw one person who would even qualify as celebrating terrorism, and I saw 10 times as many who seemed innocent to me. I really can’t imagine Rav Mattisyahu approving of this headline and the krumkeit that defends it to the point of assuming someone who questions the word choice as actualyl defening terrorist. Learn to READ and Open Your Minds.
It is a shameful thing to call these terrible humans “animals”. Animals are never terrorists and do not deserve to be associated with terrorists.
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The poor suffering pereh odoms seem to be driving nice new cars!
Does the Daas Torah that Yeshiva World editors consult with approve of calling human beings Animals? Tzelem Elokhim applies to all living humans, not just Jews. Regardless, even if there was some twisted defense for calling people animals…don’t you think doing so on a public forum and Jewish News site that is accessible to the world is just a HUGE CHILLUL HASHEM and warrants a little more decency and discretion.
As disturbing as handing out candy in Gaza is…I dont expect better from them. I do expect better from Frum Jews (or alteast I used to before reading such garbage on the yeshiva world news).
Its a insult to the animals to call these ישמאלים a
Animals aren’t malicious, the more appropriate word describing them would be BEASTS!
I fully agree with your description of them. Please remember the next time you report some neturei karta gathering or protest – not to equate the two. No Jew, misguided as he might be, advocates such things, or gives out candies in celebration of someone else’s misfortune. BTW, they (or others like them) did the same after 9/11. The Palestinians – not NK!
Came here to see an animal dance. Disappointed:(
Mel: The Torah calls them “pereh Odom.” Odom is a man, but pereh isn’t.
Mel,
I once heard a shiur about this subject, using the Nazis ym”sh as an example of people who destroyed the tzelem Elokim within them. I don’t remember any of the references but the basic gist was that a person can act in such a depraved way that they remove the tzelem Elokim and become worse than animals.
In that case the headline is still wrong.
Mel. A backbone would be helpful for you, animals was unfortunately a compliment. Stand up against murderers and denounce them as human beings!
אדם ביקר ולא יבין נמשל כבהמות נדמו
Mel, shame on you to defend these lower than animal subhumans. Anyone who celebrates killings of innocents, anyone who condones and engages the killing of innocent human beings are subhuman, lower than animal creatures.
And Mel they are eating in the street. “One who eats in the street is like a dog” sorry I don’t have Hebrew letters on my phone
Mel,
are you defending those who celebrate after they blow up a bus full of innocent civilians?
Please follow this video do americas president
I truly humbled by the lack of reading comprehension in these comments. I guess I shouldn’t expect more from people who don’t value secular education.
I never defended the Gazans celebrating in the streets. I was just asking if Daas Torah was consulted about a decision to refer to fellow humans as Animals in a public forum that can both incite violence and cause a Chilul Hashem, as well as give fuel to those who are still deciding which side they support.
I suspect the responses here about pero odam, eating in the streets and calling Gazans Beasts and animals is not coming from Daas Torah.
For some reason I just can’t see someone like Rav Aryeh Levin ZTL, who witnesses real violence back in the day referring to them as sub-human, beasts, and animals.
I cry every time I hear about terrorism and any tragedy, and especially so when they are my fellow Jews…but it really breaks my heart when I discover that some Jews have become so callous and start distorting torah in the krum-est way possible to justify disturbing hatred and racism, especially in a public forum that can put the lives of countless Jews more at risk.
When you hang out in the Otzer, kol hakavod, say what you want…but publishing on a Jewish News site, accessible to the world… i just hope you consult with Daas Torah, because it could be risking the lives of countless Jews and can fuel the other sides belief that both sides are full of hatred and racism.
We are Yidden. We are supposed to rise above.
Hevey Dan as KOL odam lkaf zechus. This doesn’t say Kol Yisroel or Kol odam cutch mipereh odam, it says Kol Adam.
In the video alone there is one guy handing out candy and dozens of cars driving by ignoring him. I only saw one person who would even qualify as celebrating terrorism, and I saw 10 times as many who seemed innocent to me. I really can’t imagine Rav Mattisyahu approving of this headline and the krumkeit that defends it to the point of assuming someone who questions the word choice as actualyl defening terrorist. Learn to READ and Open Your Minds.
It is a shameful thing to call these terrible humans “animals”. Animals are never terrorists and do not deserve to be associated with terrorists.