President Obama is no stranger to the Washington Sunday shows—he’s appeared on ABC’s This Week, CBS’s Face the Nation, and NBC’s Meet the Press—but, until now, and for his entire time in the White House, Obama has cut and shunned Fox News Sunday.

“I don’t know that there was a formal explanation [from the Obama White House], but basically, they made it clear they weren’t very happy with Fox News,” said Fox News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace, who finally got his presidential exclusive for this weekend’s broadcast after countless scorned invitations.

Wallace taped his interview with Obama on Thursday for the show, which celebrates its 20th anniversary on April 28, and their conversation, at the White House’s insistence, is embargoed until 9 a.m. Sunday.