If this ch”v happened to them
would they wish for someone to play guitar over the ‘makom’?!
I suspect that this is good therapy for the ZAKA volunteers involved. They unfortunately see too much bloodshed, far more than most of the YWN commentators to this article above.
Should be learning better.
Whilst I respect Savlanut’s comments I do not think this response is appropriate the night after a Yid was murdered in cold blood and others seriously injurued.
It’s not been a good start to the year. Each one of us know what we have to fix to make it better.
#4
While it’s pleasant that you try being “dan l’kaf zechus”,is this somehow an answer?
Just like you wouldn’t judge a WWII survivor for going off the dererch, I think it’s sort of similar?!? You can’t judge someone that was in such a situation, even if it’s not necessarily the right thing.
Happens to be that singing is the way that they deal with the horrors that they see and singing is actually a therapy for them. See the Ami magazine in which they actually interviewed the head of zaka, who when asked how they deal with such trauma constantly, he responded they sing, and that while people may think that they are nuts it helps them pull through so dont judge unless you are in their shoes.
The sad reality is that exact place where a Yid was Brutally Muderered will continue to be a Bus-Stop. As it has been for so many years, and All is forgotten. I’m sure so many of you have walked by that exact spot so many times, like I have. The Israelis aren’t into making memorials about the countless terrorist attacks. Rather for the sake of sanity, try to do everything possible to return to Normal life.
While I respect the comments of Richard M and #7 above, I respectfully disagree and when it comes to ZAKA (and others putting their lives and sanity on the line for us) I will always try and “Dan Lekaf Zechus”.
I recall reading somewhere that most ZAKA volunteers, despite knowing what to expect and preparing in advance, quit after their first major incident response. Whether this is true or not, anyone who is willing to be the first to respond to a terrorist incident and then be the last to leave, e.g. after picking up parts of baby from all over the place (Rachmana Litzlan) as is sometimes necessary or whatever needed to be done Lekavod Meis in this particular case, to my mind had earned the right to hold such a Kumzits. I pray that the families involved understand.
May Hashem make ZAKA unnecessary speedily in our days and in the meanwhile may He help these brave volunteers stay sane.
I have a great idea. These are the guys who scrape body parts off of concrete and scour car interiors for blood drops. How bout we assume they have a good reason even if you can’t come up with it? Or maybe ask one of them and listen to their answer before deciding how you feel about it.
These guys deserve nothing less than respect and favorable judgement – you should be ashamed of yourselves for opening your mouths.
The zaka volunteers are clearly asking Hashem, in the form of song, to have rachmanus on us. What could possibly be wrong with that?
My eyes filled with tears for the beautiful emuna these brave men exhibited.
As some above commented, these Zaka volunteers suffer deep trauma from the horrific bloodshed they observe and must steel themselves emotionally for the holy work they do.
Singing is a way to find relief from the trauma.
G-d bless them.
#11 ,#12, #13
We’re troubled and saddened by the american guys who showed up at the spot with the guitar
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It’s like playing guitar in the 9 days?
If this ch”v happened to them
would they wish for someone to play guitar over the ‘makom’?!
I suspect that this is good therapy for the ZAKA volunteers involved. They unfortunately see too much bloodshed, far more than most of the YWN commentators to this article above.
Should be learning better.
Whilst I respect Savlanut’s comments I do not think this response is appropriate the night after a Yid was murdered in cold blood and others seriously injurued.
It’s not been a good start to the year. Each one of us know what we have to fix to make it better.
#4
While it’s pleasant that you try being “dan l’kaf zechus”,is this somehow an answer?
Just like you wouldn’t judge a WWII survivor for going off the dererch, I think it’s sort of similar?!? You can’t judge someone that was in such a situation, even if it’s not necessarily the right thing.
Happens to be that singing is the way that they deal with the horrors that they see and singing is actually a therapy for them. See the Ami magazine in which they actually interviewed the head of zaka, who when asked how they deal with such trauma constantly, he responded they sing, and that while people may think that they are nuts it helps them pull through so dont judge unless you are in their shoes.
The sad reality is that exact place where a Yid was Brutally Muderered will continue to be a Bus-Stop. As it has been for so many years, and All is forgotten. I’m sure so many of you have walked by that exact spot so many times, like I have. The Israelis aren’t into making memorials about the countless terrorist attacks. Rather for the sake of sanity, try to do everything possible to return to Normal life.
While I respect the comments of Richard M and #7 above, I respectfully disagree and when it comes to ZAKA (and others putting their lives and sanity on the line for us) I will always try and “Dan Lekaf Zechus”.
I recall reading somewhere that most ZAKA volunteers, despite knowing what to expect and preparing in advance, quit after their first major incident response. Whether this is true or not, anyone who is willing to be the first to respond to a terrorist incident and then be the last to leave, e.g. after picking up parts of baby from all over the place (Rachmana Litzlan) as is sometimes necessary or whatever needed to be done Lekavod Meis in this particular case, to my mind had earned the right to hold such a Kumzits. I pray that the families involved understand.
May Hashem make ZAKA unnecessary speedily in our days and in the meanwhile may He help these brave volunteers stay sane.
I have a great idea. These are the guys who scrape body parts off of concrete and scour car interiors for blood drops. How bout we assume they have a good reason even if you can’t come up with it? Or maybe ask one of them and listen to their answer before deciding how you feel about it.
These guys deserve nothing less than respect and favorable judgement – you should be ashamed of yourselves for opening your mouths.
The zaka volunteers are clearly asking Hashem, in the form of song, to have rachmanus on us. What could possibly be wrong with that?
My eyes filled with tears for the beautiful emuna these brave men exhibited.
As some above commented, these Zaka volunteers suffer deep trauma from the horrific bloodshed they observe and must steel themselves emotionally for the holy work they do.
Singing is a way to find relief from the trauma.
G-d bless them.
#11 ,#12, #13
We’re troubled and saddened by the american guys who showed up at the spot with the guitar
Who’s attacking the ZAKA volunteers?!