Among the hundreds of documents dealing with money allotted by Arafat, two were found which related to large sums paid to Rabbi Hirsch for “expenses for activities.” The payments in question, one after an other, were unusually large and may indicate that Arafat paid him monthly.
Click HERE to view the website of the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center at the Center for Special Studies. They have some pretty shocking documents hinting to some very shady dealing between Arafat and Neturei Karta.
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Not shocking.They should all burn together.
dont talk like that they r yidden
This is old news, I’m not sure why everyone is once again covering it today (though they desrve whatever bizyonos they can get). Maariv reported it in 2004. It even appears in the Wikipedia article on “Neturei Karta.”
Umm, hate to break the bad news, but this so-called allegation is YEARS old. Google it, and you’ll find this accusation was made over 5 years ago. Yes, Arafat paying Rabbi Hirsch.
BTW, I was under the impression that Y.W. Editor does not put names where rechilos and loshon hora may be involved. Change of policy?
In any event, this information originated from the zionist entity. If you believe what they say, G-d help you.
ged. They ARE NOT YIDDEN. Why can’t you and others like you, GED, understand that?
If they do teshuva and change there ways, we could talk, but for now, they are NOT YIDDEN. Period!!!!!!!!!!!
I clips of them visiting Arafat’s grave and “Praying”???!!!???!!! or paying respects or whatever. Kind of disgusting.
I was never a secret that R’ Hirsch (a prize talmud of R’ Aron Kotler) was jewish affier minister of PA. with salary. evryone yerusulaim know this 12 years ago when I was there. It is no different then R’ Litzman from UTJ (talmud of bais hatalmud) getting money from state of israel/ Olmert/Sharon (also enemy’s of the jews & soni hasem) .
Remember “godol hamachdio yoser min hahorgo” some1 that makes a yid do an averh is worsthen some1 that kills him
I’m not netura karta but don’t go overboard
this is nothing new. when the izzys bombed his place a few years ago these docs turned up.
they don’t act like Yidden and they are Mechalel Shem Shomayim. The cast a bad shadow on all of us. The communities they live in should ban their children from schools. No Shul should accept them and no community should accept them. My realtives – the Kedoshim that died alz Kiddush Hashem in the Milchama went through the awful war that these meshugoyim (not people) claim was exaggerated. There are many members of the Neturei Karta who have their beliefs but would never go to meet the Reshoim of Iran, Palestine etc. Klal Yisroel has to make a Machaa against them so the media understands they do not represent any of us.
They want to uproot all zionists-which are all jews-lets not forget-yushkeh was also jewish…
Really they are yidden? The Ged can you telly me why they are shaking the hands of man who has Jewish Blood dripping all over himself? They are not yidden as you say. And as Abi Meleibt said yes they will burn!
Really they are Yidden they could have fooled me, most Yidden that I know do not shake hands with some one who has Yiddisha Blood dripping off his fingers!
They are terrible people. Worse than the arabs, so don;t go tell me they are yidden. Yes, they are yidden, and when they go, they are going to get it uo there.
Moshe Hirsch a prime talmid of R’ Aharon Kotler? Not quite – more like a mediocre guy who learned in Chaim Berlin IIRC and decided to look for attention and money by joining up with the NK and marrying the daughter of an NK stalwart. A miserable little joke who now has Alzheimers – his brain is as rotten as his neshomo.
And yes, this is old news.
R’ Hirsch dos not belong to the group in Iran. they r x-satmar based in monsey&london nothing to do with the netura karta/tora veyerah in yerushlaim started by R’ Amrom Blau Zat”l, & are mostly g-d fairing jews. R’ Hirsch ‘is a personality but a T”C. In lakewood in his day’s he was known as the misnah brura yid. When he use to come colecting for Tora Veyera in Lakewood R’ Sneayer was mchabed him do say a cumash rasi sheur in the ezras nosim. so slow down
These people don’t deserve all the attention they’re getting! They LIVE off it! I understand we need to differentiate ourselves from them to the goyim in order to “minimize” the chilul Hashem involved, but at least between ourselves we can pretend they don’t exist?
:yid228: yes R’ Hirsch is a talmud of R’ Aron . He slept in 1 room with R’ Y. Schiff. There is a very fam. pic with R’ Hirsch with a sraymel (on purim as ‘purim rov’) with R’ aron& R’ nosson .He was a respected almud just ask an old timer & youl hear
Slow down????
If he talked to Arafat, i will spead up to curse him and tell him to drop dead
Kol Hakavod YW for printing this and exposing these animals.
They are traitors!! Ironically, the religion they are parading with behead those who betray them.
I’m not suggesting we do the same, but the least we can do is expose these animals’ names, addresses, phone numbers etc. I think its ridiculous that we sit quietly as these “reshoim” make a mockery of us day after day.
dont talk like that they r yidden
Tayere reb Ged, if Neturei karta are Yidden, the definition of Yidden has become so broad and all-encompassing as to be meaningless.
Esav was more Jewish. At least he was closer to Avraham.
WHY DIDN’T THE HAMODIA, YATED, MISHPACHA, DER YID, OR THE JEWISH PRESS, MAKE A BIG FUSS ABOUT THIS ????????????????????????????????????????????? IT’S THEY’RE OBLIGATION, THEY COULD REALLY GET THE OILAM COOKED UP ABOUT THIS. AND THAT WILL ULTIMATLY BRING THESE JEWISH NAZIS DOWN – AND PUT A END TO THE CHILUL HASHEM AND DAMAGE THEY CAUSE US (THE FRUM OILAM).
WHERE’S THE OUTRAGE, COMMON, WAKE UP EVERYBODY, FORGET ABOUT THE GASHMIUS A LITTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sheryl, I suggest that you purchase the Yated this week.
Also, Yated has also written major articles about these animals in the past.
Kindly get your facts before commenting.
yea Sheryl, Front Page in the jewish press with a big picture.
The last time moishe hirsch dared show his face in meah shearim he got a good beating and went home and had a heart attack, he is as forgotten in meah shearim as ofir pines is in labor!
Off course they are yidden, yisrael af al pi shehata yisroel hu. And its only because of that that he can have the din rodef which he has. Rabbit Hirsch may have grown up frum, as did many jews who have since gone off the derech. He happens to know enough to actually hayiv in moridin velo maalim.
When non frum jews see the picture of people dressed up as frum jews on the front page of the jerusalem post together with other oyvei yisroel they associate them with all of us WE MUST SCREAM OUT LOUD NOT JUST IN OUR MEDIA BUT IN THE GENERAL MEDIA.
Please YW editor dont put the preface rabbi on him, as Im sure you would not put before someone who is reform and mehalel other issurim
THIS PICTURE IS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY!! MR. CRAZY HIRSH-YOU ARE ONLY SHOWING YOURSELF AS A FOOL AMONG KLAL YISROEL (AND IN THE SECULAR WORLD)!!! WAKE UP!!!
ATT: JOSEPH: HOW CAN YOU EVEN COMMENT ON YW THAT THIS IS LOSHON HORAH!!! THESE ANIMALS ARE FAR FROM THE SUBJECT OF L”H!
AND FOR YOUR INFO, IT IS WRITTEN THAT WHEN ONE IS MECHALEL HASHEM’S NAME BERABIM, THEN YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING TO FIGHT IT….
LETS HOPE THAT MOSHIACH WILL BE HERE SOON, AND THIS MATTER WILL GET SOLVED ASAP…….AMEN!!
the gedolim never spoke against the Neturei Karta
This is such an ebarassment. My goyishe co-workers were asking me about why these beheimos went to Iran.
the president of iran PAID these neturei karta idiots alot of money to sit on the front dais by the “HOLOCAUST CONVENTION”,and also to take pictures with them and to put them in all the papers. these guys are making a huge chillul hashem. they will go to hell. The goyim are wondering why “HASIDIC JEWS” hate other “JEWS” .
Any Jew that can compare Hirsch getting from Arafat to Litzman getting from the Zionist government was never handed down the Mesora how Klal Yisroel is to act and run. Open your Chumash in the beginning of Parashas Shoftim, look in Rashi there, the constitution is clear: In EVERY generation we have to find the “Bnei Alia”, the great wise of the time, those who stand out in their Torah greatness and follow their ruling. Naturally, if you differ with another Jew about WHICH GADOL TO FOLLOW then you’re within the program. Within this group you have guys with brains who understand that there could be a different way, and guys without brains who think only their way exists. But if you ACT IN DEFIANCE TO ALL GEDOLIM, calling them by their first name in degradation without any Talmid Chochom of stature on your side, then you missed the boat. You never saw it!
All your shallow comparisons are coming from forgetting the way the nation is to be run Al Pi Torah. Unfortunately, there are too many guys like you (in this sense).
I understand telling the Arabs that we were not behind forming the state of Israel [some times I feel like doing it myself, when I realize that it won’t make a dent in their actions]. But these actions are far far beyond, or rather, far below…
– A classic example of a little claim to innocents which is blown way out of any proportions, due to lack of Torah guidance.
Moshe Hirsch is NOT connected with the original NK. My understanding is that he married the daughter of one of the legitimate leaders of NK and then broke away for kovod and gelt and/or to prove that he, an outsider, was more of a kanoi than they are. Moshe Hirsch is now iber butl due to Alzheimers and his son has taken over the EY clown show.
The original NK in Yerushalayim does not condone meeting with and receiving money from Arafat YMS nor does it support what the Monsey/London/Vienna yikelach did in Iran.