The city of Kiryat Sefer who came under fire for not displaying Israeli flags throughout the city on Independence day, explained the absence of Israeli flags from its roads. They claim that the flags were stolen from atop electricity poles throughout the city. The city of Kiryat Sefer has previously been criticized for not blaring the sirens on Holocaust Day and Memorial Day – as is customary throughout Israel. Yeshivos in Kiryat Sefer remain open today.
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IN WILLIAMSBURGH, BROOKLYN THE “NK” BURN THE ISRAELI FLAG EVERY PURIM, NOW I KNOW WHERE THEY GET IT FROM, MABEY EVERY YEAR THEY STEAL IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE
It really surprises me, that the smart and intellectual Israelis (Israel has the most PhD’s per capita in the world) can make such a big deal of a 59 year old holiday, yet completely do away with 3319 year old holidays (Pesach, Shavuos, Sukkos, etc.) – Go figure.
K.D.N – Great Post!!!
Thanks mdlevine. A lot of my hashkafos about Zionism are based on R. Amnon Yitzhak’s lectures. If you’re into right-wing stuff, go listen to him.
I very much agree with you too, KDN.
Fox – The reason, as you stated, that more and more secular Israelis have less and less respect for this sad day, and it is ”just a day off” for them is because of their gowing disillusionment with zionism that comes with its increasingly apparant corruption and the anti-religious fervor of the State.
Lman Hashem: thank you to you too.
Moshe Fox: making a seder on Pesach and fasting on Yom Kippur are quite minor compared to driving and turning on lights on those days. – Yes, correct, they should continue to grow in ruchniyus – amen, ken yehi rotzon.
And what about Shavuos? Is there any more observance done than driving those tractors and carrying baskets & crowns (Chag HaBikkurim)? (please correct me if my information is out-dated)
Also, what I heard is that the Charedi chadorim (at least some of them) gave the day off – even for Binyon Beis Hamikdosh (bimhayroh b’yomeinu) we’re not allowed to stop Tinokos Shel Beis Rabbon from learning, but for Yom Haatzmaut we should?
And one last point, as far as R. Amnon – you’re right, he’s not the FINAL word, but he’s the ONLY one who has done adequate and complete research about the Zionistic mission, and is BRAVE enough to reveal his findings. (Did you ever see the “Hertzel v’Hatziyonut” video? It’s amazing.)
Fox – Every day we see clearer and clearer the great disillusionment of the zionist enterprise and all it stands for. By their secular fold, just take a look at the comments they made just recently and posted on yw, and their religious fold who have been evicted from their homes from the Sinai disengagement thru the recent disengagemeents.
Its failure is even recognized by these long-time zionists.
zionflag – there is no crazy religious ”fervor” by Torah Yidden. That is weasel word terminology used to dismiss the masive success and growth by the Torah community. The secular disillusionment is from the faiure of zionism and the secular ”lifestyle.”
fox – The Yemenite incidents are a bloody stain on zionism itself.
jdspero – your words are those of a losing argument who has run out of any rational defense of the failed zionist experience (like the failed communist experiance.)
Fox – The zionists cut off the Yemenites payos and kidnapped their children in order to further propagate zionism, and in the name of zionism. They are rasha mirushos. The zionists throughout their history have a violent history against the Torah.
Incidentally, Yoshko is said to have performed miracles, too. “Ki yakum bikirbicha navi o cholem chalom vinasan ailecha os o mofes…..naavda elohim acherim” is what it says in Devarim. The Torah continues “lo sishma el divrei hanavi hahu…ki minaseh hashem eschem…”
The point is that we do not give validity to anything because it was accompanied by miracles.
So, just because Hashem performed miracles at the founding of the State of Israel, does not mean that the State of Israel is legitimate vis a vis halacha, nor that it is worth celebrating.
We say “ViAl Nisecha ViAl Nifliosecha SHEBICHAL EIS…” in every shmone Esrei. Hashem performs nissim all the time.
Besides, even our almost non-existent understanding of Hashem’s ways can comprehend what would have happened to all those Jews if the Zionists would have lost. So, again, a miracle does not kasher anything.
BTW, while we’re on the topic, the zionists did a whole lot more physical and spiritual destruction than cut off their payos, which I will not go into here.
The Magen Dovid is not inherently a zionist symbol.
The stripes were used because they resemble the stripes on a tallis.
The star was the universal symbol of judaism (duh, any guess how the nazis came up with the idea for the yellow stars?)
Fox – You finish because you continue to be unable to answer for the crimes of zionism. They did far worse than forcibly cut off their payos and kidnap their children.
As far as you blatant loshon hora against Satmar, aside from being completely baseless, it is entirely laughable. Many Yemenite families live happily and lovingly in Kiryas Yoel and other Satmar neighborhoods. They were rescued by Satmar from Yemen and from zionism. They live in a free country now and choose to live with their Satmar brethren. Where else do you see such Ahavos Yisroel? Where else is different Jewish customs and backgrounds so well tolerated?
Of course you may choose to believe the lies printed in the anti-Jewish Israeli Torah-hating press, and the malicious lies they print regarding Satmar that have as much basis in fact as the existence of santa claus.
Fox – Continue your anti-Satmar loshon hora and sheker that you pick up from the anti-religious zionist press. There a good source for you.
You said “With that I finish my comments here.” I guess your anti-chareidi fervor couldn’t stop your further hate talk.
Moshe Fox – Who started Hatzolah, Bikur Cholim, etc.? Who are the biggest Balei Tzrdukah? Satmar. But why deal with the mere facts, when the zionist fantasy is more pleasing? What more do you expect from the secularist anti-Satmar zionist newspapers than to lie and attack Satmar–the ones who most expose zionism for its bare emptiness and hatred.
Moshe, take it firsthand–Satmar are the biggest baalei chesed. Hatzolah, Bikur Choilim, etc. If you are ever in a Satmar Beis Medrash dressed any which way (MO, Chasid, Litvak), you’ll quickly get invited for Shabbos many times over by many chasidim.
First you generically attack Satmar, but now you implicitly attack the Satmar Rebbe? The man who with Rav Ahron Kotler built Torah in America! Who gave you a heter from loshson hora? And from sheker? Where does your hatred stem from? Remove the hate from your heart.
As an aside, I doubt you would talk about ”African-Americans” the way you talk about Satmar. Because that woud be ”racist.” So stop being an anti-Jewish racist.
LOL. Moshe you said you were finished. I guess internal anti-semitism has no boundries or end.
Defending a Jewish community from a community-wide attack on it, like you’re constant anti-Satmar hate talk, is hardly personal. Obviously your only defense, after your arguments failed on the merits, is to blatantly attack an entire Torah community in a manner you wouldn’t even attack a non-Jewish community like (African Americans.)
Apparently you see intelligence as constituting hatred. I truly feel sorry for what your heart is going through.
Moshe, your words show an anti-Jewish racist. No one has to say hate to convey hate. I thought you were finished many posts ago. But your hatred keeps spewing.
keep on rambling. there is nothing coherent you said t respond to. and keep refreshing your screen. what a productive life. hate & waste.
Hey Joe, don’t bother with him. He has too much time on his hands. If he wants the last word let him have it. Maybe one day he will grow up. There is always hope for every yiddishe neshoma. (There are many zionists who were mekarev and did teshuva.)