[A report by the Times Online UK] For a head of state to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of.
Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip seen in Jerusalem tonight as a disastrous humiliation.
After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on Jewish settlements, Mr Obama walked out of his meeting with Mr Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisors and “let me know if there is anything new”, a US congressman who spoke to the Prime Minister said today.
“It was awful,” the congressman said. One Israeli newspaper called the meeting “a hazing in stages”, poisoned by such mistrust that the Israeli delegation eventually left rather than risk being eavesdropped on a White House phone line. Another said that the Prime Minister had received “the treatment reserved for the President of Equatorial Guinea”.
Left to talk among themselves, Mr Netanyahu and his aides retreated to the Roosevelt Room. He later spent a further half-hour with Mr Obama and extended his stay for a day of emergency talks aimed at restarting peace negotiations, but left last night with no official statement from either side. He returns to Israel dangerously isolated after what Israeli media have called a White House ambush for which he is largely to blame.
Sources said that Mr Netanyahu failed to impress Mr Obama with a flow chart purporting to show that he was not be responsible for the timing of announcements of new settlement projects in east Jerusalem. Mr Obama was said to be livid when such an announcement derailed Vice President Joe Biden’s visit to Israel this month, and his anger towards Israel does not appear to have cooled.
Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, cast doubt on minor details in Israeli accounts of the meeting but did not deny claims that it amounted to a dressing down for the Prime Minister, whose refusal to freeze settlements is seen in Washington as the main barrier to resuming peace talks.
The Likud leader now has to try to square the demands of the Obama Administration with his nationalist, ultra-Orthodox coalition partners, who want him to stand up to Washington, even though Israel desperately needs US backing in confronting the looming threat of a nuclear Iran.
“The Prime Minister leaves America disgraced, isolated and altogether weaker than when he came,” the Israeli daily Ha’aretz said.
In their meeting Mr Obama set out a number of expectations that Israel was to satisfy if it wanted to end the crisis, Israeli sources said. These included an extension of the freeze on Jewish settlement growth beyond the 10-month deadline next September, an end to Israeli building projects in east Jerusalem, and even a withdrawal of Israeli forces to positions that they held before the Second Intifada in September 2000, after which they re-occupied most of the West Bank.
Newspaper reports recounted how Mr Netanyahu looked “excessively concerned and upset” as he pulled out a flow chart to show Mr Obama how Jerusalem planning permission worked and how he could not have known of the announcement that hundreds more homes were to be built just as Mr Biden arrived in Jerusalem.
Mr Obama then suggested that Mr Netanyahu and his staff stay on at the White House to consider his proposals, so that if he changed his mind he could inform the President right away. “I’m still around,” the Yediot Ahronot daily quoted Mr Obama saying. “Let me know if there is anything new.”
With the atmosphere so soured by the end of the evening, the Israelis decided that they could not trust the phone line they had been lent. Mr Netanyahu retired with his defence minister, Ehud Barak, to the Israeli Embassy to ensure the Americans were not listening in.
The meeting came barely a day after Mr Obama’s landmark health reform victory. Israel had calculated that he would be too tied up with domestic issues ahead of the mid-term elections to focus seriously on the Middle East.
(Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/)
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This is what you get when you elect an egoistic arrogant Islam-sympathizer to the White House!
I read an article today that warned about Obama losing the Jewish bloc-vote, hopefully the liberal Jews will realize who their number one enemy is and who are their best friends in Washington. Well, if J-Street will have it their way and Obama will give them the stage, some will unfortunately get fooled.
When Moshiach will come malchus edom will be rejected (pesochim)
Shame on you Mr. Obama for treating America’s ally that way. If only you treated America’s real enemies that way.
But I have news for you. If you think your Chicago style politics that was so effective with the spineless U.S. politicians whose arms were twisted into voting for your health care travesty will work with Netanyahu, you’ve got another thing coming. Israel and its leaders never cowered from bigger and meaner foes than you.
Fehh, so much for trying to lick the toes of the US. I don’t see why Netanyahu is trying to get on Obama’s good side. By 2012, it won’t matter anymore what Obama says or think.
עבד כי ימלוך!
This mushchis is our modern day achashveirosh.
History repeats itself. Haman was walking on top of the world, and then poof. Hashem has his ways. Mr. Obama just passed his health reform bill and his walking on top of the world…….
Netenyahu is trying to rely on Obama to help with Iran instead of relying on G-d.
Obama has no interest in helping Israel.
He only wants to help his Arab buddies.
I will let everyone in a little secret that will explain much of Mr. Obama – He is a Muslim. In an interview he was corrected when he said ‘my Muslim faith’. He said ‘America is not a Christian country’. His first speech was to the Arab. He hates Israel – that’s why he did the shoe on the desk picture a few months ago. He embarrassed Israel big time this week. He will not go against Iran. He is anti-toeva marriage eventhough he’s a kook liberal. (a fact that the media refuses to disclose). B’Nissan goalu, B’Nissan asidin ligael’ – bimheira beyameinu!!!
Mr. Netanyahu dont feel humiliated instead wear it as a badge of honor.
How the president has the audacity to tell the leader of a sovereign company that he cant build in HIS capitol is utterly ridiculous.
B’chol dor v’dor omdim alainu L’chalosainu
#1 – Unfortunately, most secular jews today dont give two hoots about how Israel is treated.
#9 – Obama is most certainly not a Muslim. Have you forgotten about the PASTOR of the CHURCH that Obama went to, Rev. Wright?
And btw, Obama putting his feet up on his desk has absolutely nothing to do with his positions on Israel. That didn’t even happen when he was talking to or about Israel.
Of course America isn’t a christian country, and we should be very glad it isn’t. The christians have been trying to wipe us out for centuries. If this was a christian country, we wouldn’t be here.
The Israeli government deliberately humiliated the Turkish Ambassador, a US Congressional Delegation, and the US Vice President. HaShem punishes measure for measure.
Why did so many frum yidden vote for him?
Obama my not be a Muslim but is on their side.
The fact that he sat for 20 years listening to his antisemitic anti white anti American pastor and has never denounced his pastor as the evil hater he is, shows Obama has nothing against such views.
He agrees with those views, making Obama an antisemite as well.
#16 – If Obama is such an anti-semite, why does he have a jew as a chief of staff?
He has a Muslim name and he and his sister were braught up muslim. Then in later years he bacame a radical Christian. I don’t care who you are, if you spend 20 years listening to a Reverend Wright it means you believe in what he says and you are in agreement. There’s no way his poisonous “hashkafos” didn’t penetrate Obamas heart and mind. He’s majorly anti semitic and anti Israeli. He never once treated Ahmadinepoop the way he treated Bibi Netanyahu. Its time for some more Israeli Chutzpah. Show Obama what you get when you smack your only middle eastern ally around. Now its time to do what is in Israels best interests. No more follow the leader.
“NOW in Yerushalim”…So Mr. B. “Hussein”Obamanation have you heard of the 10 makkos?? Get a clue??
You chevra should geb echtung as to what u r posting (ex. # 13), this fourom is open and tracked by the whole world, and people want to use against us anything they can.
mw13, so he could blame someone for his stupidity. haven’t you noticed he doesn’t take blame for anything? its always someone else’s fault. he has spent more money in a year than ANY other president did in an entire term but thats not his fault. a child who is a prima dona is never at fault
#17 MW because the U.S. President, Hussein, like everyone else knows that self-hating Jews are worse than goyim towards their Jewish brothers.
Jews who continue working for Obama are traitors to the Jewish people.
dogo, let the world see that Jews are unified against this evil man. Thanks to our Protector, Israel is the only nation that has survived for close to 6000 years despite the nations who constantly plot her destruction. He will continue protecting us because that is G-d’s legacy to us. Obama is teaching us not to depend on the goyim. Israel will fearlessly protect itself and the whole world will stand in awe because הנה לא ינום ולא ישן שומר ישראל.
#17 Henry Ford Bought the Dearborn Independent news paper for the only and specific purpose of
of publishing the most vicious antisemitic garbage anyone in America had ever seen.
It was so bad that the the Fuhrer of Germany used much of it in his own speeches that he made in order to start the holocaust.
So, do you think Henry Ford was not antisemitic, just because he had a few Jewish lawyers who he said he considered to be his friends?
#17 He has a pet secular self hating jew as his chief of staff.
dudes, his middle name is HUSSEIN, get a clue people
As Rush Limbaugh recently suggested: Israel should change their name to Iran and they’ll receive different treatment…
Though I am not a Bibi fan, in this case he deserves respect for bringing honor to Am Yisrael by sticking to his guns in the face of this anti-Semite.
The FACT IS that HaSh-m is the ONE who controls world events (NOT obama)and so Bibi’s actions bring honor to HaSh-m by displaying this.
It was not Bibi that was “dissed” because he wasn’t invited for dinner or photos,
It WAS obama that was “dissed” big time by having a Jew, the leader of a tiny country, refuse to bow to his will!!!
Kol HaKavod Bibi!!!
Dr. Hall, can you elaborate? I’m a bit fuzzy on the details.
#13 how about this!!! when (~20year ago) when Obama decided he wanted in politics. He was smart enough to realize that Americans will not support a Muslim had (forced) to hide his Muslim roots. The only so called Catholic Church he could find he liked (because of his mind set) was a radical anti-semitic, anti-white, anti-American.
I expect some of you to argue this point. If you look at it with open eyes it does make sense.
IMO all those who voted for the Obama-nation of America should give up their US citizenship and all their money and leave. You are obviously too stupid to be trusted with the future of America. Also not willing to listen to anything outside of the mainstream media telling you lies with 10 second soundbites or do the effort to find the truth.
I guess you will whole heartly swallow what this clown tells you about how great obamacare will be for America. Yea great for the destruction of America.
#17 – Unfortunately, it seems that there are always some Jews willing to sell their souls, and sell out their heritage, for power and privilege or for “acceptance” by non-Jews. Obama’s chief of staff is what is known a “usful idiot.”
Obama–“The Messiah”–has been sent by HaShem to facilitate the coming of Moshiach.
He will make us all–including the secularists in Israel–do the Teshuva that is necessary for this to occur.
“Gedola hasoras hataba’as Mi’Memches Neviim.”–He will make us lose all hope in anyone, but HaShem!
Bibi has a lot of good qualities but he has some poor ones that betray his ability to be the PM of Israel. He is too in love with power, is arrogant and is perceived as being untrustworthy. His first go around as PM was a disaster and his second is not shaping up any differently. Ironically, his greates accomplishments were not as PM but as Finance Minister a post he should return to.
Hereorthere (#8) says “…Netenyahu is trying to rely on Obama to help with Iran instead of relying on G-d…” I suppose it was thological error to “rely” on the United States and Allied Armies to liberate Europe 65 years ago.
What zealots overlook is really quite pashut – If you’re in the middle of a custody battle with your ex, no matter how right you are – and no matter how likely the outcomne will be the way you see it – you don’t unilaterally start acting as if custody has already been granted to you without invoking the ire of the court. And you don’t “rely” on miracles and Hashem to free you from reasonable hishtadlus.
The status of much of the Eretz Yisroel is the subject of international negotiations – and that many of you think this is heresy is quite besides the point – it is fact. The State of Israel would be much better off, and I suggest much more likely to prevail in the end, if it would play by the rules of international diplomacy.
Impeach Obama. Yet another unpresidential move. Even for the fact that Israel (regardless of the country) is an ally of the USA, we should have a president who knows how to play the part. Obama is a megalomaniac and needs to see the White House psychiatrist.
#21,22,25,26,31,32, and anybody else I missed – I never said Obama was a great guy, and I never said he was Israel’s biggest friend. All I’m saying is that just because he is the most anti-Israel president since Carter does not make him an anti-semite or a muslim. Just because he wants Israel to stop building settelments doesn’t mean he wants to wipe us all off the face of the earth. He is by no means our ally, but he is not our sworn enemy either.
I just read somewhere that March 25th 2010 was his fathers 100th birthday.
#36 Part 2
In my opinion Obama is playing games with the world stage, namely Israel, as a childish, but dangerous acting out against Rahm Emanuel, who reported has been trumping Obama on every point, behind the scenes. Why would Obama even pick Emanuel knowing his family was involved with the founding of Israel, only to treat Israel worse than all the other previous presidents?
Get rid of Obama! How do we start impeachment proceedings. He should not be running the US for the next three years. It is like giving a child a key to your car and letting them out on the highway. His lack of experience shows up every single day.
Fearmonger:
· Someone who spreads fear, or needlessly raises the alarm; To spread fear
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fearmonger
·Fearmongering – Fear mongering (or scaremongering) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fearmongering
MoshiachNow01 – Somehow I doubt that Congress will find Obama being anti-Israel sufficient grounds for impeachment.
A word to the wise – as much as we may live in a Country that supports “Freedom of Speech”, you should assume that your comments posted on this or any site are being read by people in Washington and, therefore, make sure that what you are saying does not promote “Aivah” or even worse “Chillul Hashem” !!!
charliehall (#14)-
I disagree with your conclusion – we have no way of knowing why H-shem allows specific things to happen, and furthermore I am far more concerned about Pres. Obama’s underlying reasons for humiliating Netanyahu than I am about the actual humiliation.
As far as the incidents you mentioned, here’s my take:
1) Humiliating the Turkish Ambassador: A bad move. Even worse was making it explicitly clear that the humiliation was deliberate. Turkey has recently become quite cool to Israel (for several different reasons), but it’s a bad move to act that way to a country that we conducted joint military exercises with just recently. An apology was subsequently issued by the Israeli diplomat.
2) Humiliating the U.S. congressional delegation: I don’t believe the intent was to embarrass the delegation, but rather to avoid the J Street group. It may not have been a smart move diplomatically, but I can’t blame any Israeli or pro-Israel person for shunning this group.
3) Humiliating V.P. Biden: This was a 100% innocent gaffe which humiliated Netanyahu as much as it did Biden. What possible reason could Netanyahu have had to deliberately provoke the visiting U.S. vice-president? Netanyahu apologized profusely and took his lumps from Biden.
#35 YonasonW strongly implies I am a zealot for speaking the truth about Obama.
Then makes red hering arguments to pretend I said things I never said.
Zealots love to make up things that others never said wo they do not have to address the real issue.
I never said Netanyahu should do nothing and sit around and just expect G-d to do miracles.
In fact, I said the exact opposite.
It would take a monumental miracle for Obama to stop being an antisemite and start promoting policies that were not in lockstep with everything Israels enemies want.
Netanyahu if he geive in to Obama he is putting his enitre faith only in Obama and de facto saying “We will not do what is right because we are too afraid that those who have our worst interests at heart might do something we do not like (as if they aren’t doing it already).
Obama is a bully and blackmailer.
Once you give into a blackmailer he will just demand more and more and everything you give in on will be used against you to force you to give up stuill more untill the blackmailer has ruined your life and taken everything you have and ever will have.
And that definition of fearmongering applies to the liberals who use fearmongering all the time.
They love to use fearmiongering to make people afraid of those they falsly label as fearmongerers, in order to try and shut them up and stop them from telling the truth that refutes the liberal lies.
How is this for fearmongering;
Libs are always saying “Israel must give into anything America demands no matter how much it hurts them because if they don’t it will be much worse for them”.
It’s like an abusive parents who serevly beats the kid and breaks their bones G-d forbid, who says “You’d better get in here and take your extreme beating or it will be even worse for you if I have to come get you.
I do not know how I can make it worse but I will find a way”.
Israel has no business selling themselves down the river, to appease the liberal fearmongering zealots.
#37 If all that, does not make Obama an antisemite, then what would it take for you finally believe he was one?
It sounds like even if Obama publically said he was an antisemite, you would still bend over backwards, to find some ‘reasoning’, to say he wasn’t.
#13 I hope your views are in the minority because there are millions of Christian Americans who have nothing but respect for the Jewish faith and staunchly support Israel. Your mentality is stuck in the middle ages. America is not a “fill in the blank ” religious nation. It was however, founded predominantly by men of Christian faith and the constitution is an endowment of rights granted to all men by a “Creator”. Even if you are an atheist you have to admit that it is genius to hold a document that grants a citizens basic rights beyond the reach of the government. For the same government that grants your rights can take them away.
BSD Prime Minister Netanyahu is a freely elected official of a free & democratic nation. How many other countries in that region of the world can honestly make this claim? President Barack Hussein Obama has absolutely no idea about Middle East politics, history, or its reality on the ground. He didn’t know how to write health legislation – not one word of it came from him. He doesn’t know how to lead the USA except through wild intimidation which he learned on the streets of Chicago and has taken w’him to the streets of washington. Let’s face the truth, if this man was a white guy, there is no way in hell he would have won the democratic nomination or the white house. it is precisely b/c he is a black man that all the blacks got out to vote, many many for the very first time. Our president, sorry to say, is going to be remembered as the worst president, along w’ Mr. Jimmy Carter. Hey, isn’t he an antisemite, too? He is an embarrasment to the honest hard working American that doesn’t care all that much about Israel or Husein, or any of this – the avg american wants assurances that they’ll still wake up and have their job, the their check will last through the week, etc. Why hasn’t the Pres touched on these issues? Because he doesn’t know how to, so he leaves them alone until one of his aides prompts him to do so. Instead he has to show his “power” by playing the bully with Netanyahu. It’s a grown man still playing in his school yard. You can’t maestro – you asked to be Pres and now it is yours and the entire USA is beginning to wake up and notice, you have chewed off much more than you can swallow. My suggestion. open an American history book, read how each Pres that “played” with Israel ended up playing all by himself. It doesnt matter how many aides are Jewish – it is the President that makes the decisions and tht has the power. I was always willing to give you a benefit of doubt, but not any longer, Mr. President – now my doubts are real, and you are really in to things way to deep. I hope someone teaches you how to behave in front of other world leaders, and I hope someone ties a belt around you, to catch you just in case you stumble and fall it.