According to a Kikar Shabbat report, a newspaper operating in Modi’in Illit under the vaad rabbonim was fined NIS 5,000 for printing an ad that is not in line with the hashkafa of the vaad.
The report states that the newspaper carried an ad regarding a shiur in chassidus being held in a Chabad library.
The head of the newspaper was summoned to a beis din, and the rabbonim contemplated removing its authorization for the paper to operate, but at the end, let him off easy, with a NIS 5,000 fine.
Local Chabad chassidim “are boiling and very angry over the incident”, rejecting such an ad is deemed unsuitable.
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(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
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28 Responses
I do not understand what the machlokis is.
Is the vaad rabbonim, against Chabad that they will allow no ads for chabad, in their paper?
this is why moshiach is not here yet. when are we going to stop thinking were better than everyone else. If you dont follow them dont go to the shiir.
The vaad is absolutely right. This is their hashkafa and the beliefd of the people who put them in charge of the town. If the editors of the paper feel different, let them find another organization to certify them.
5000 shek for an ad?!?
Do you really think the vaad would allow for another vaad in their town?
Oy vey! Why can’t we all get along?
Vayoimer lerosho ‘LOMO SAKEH REYECHOH’ !! Hashem yerachem oleynu..
Why does a newspaper have to be under the va’ad? Are they so afraid of people having independent thoughts that they can’t allow people to just read a newspaper?
To #3: You are right, the newspaper should drop the vaad and run the newspaper without having to be beholden to a beis din that discriminates against Lubavitch chassidim.(No, they do not speak for the people only themselves) It is a chutzpah mamash that the bais din feels it is more important to yiddishkeit to spread machkoles than to spread shalom among klal yisroel.
The Besht once said that there will be a time when there will be many rabbis that will impede the coming of Moshiach, c’v.
Sinas Chinam at its finest. The RBSH is looking down and smiling at the way these “righteous” people are standing up for his Torah. He is just bursting with pride that so many people understand the fundamental message of the entire Torah which is to knock others. He is mightily impressed with this frumkeit. What a day-brightener. Not.
For those who are not aware “Chabad Library” refers to the “meshichistim” of Chabad, a group that even many mainstream Lubavichers consider to to be off the fringe and outside the pale of Judaism.
Good job Vaad!!!
nothing like anti Jewish feelings and hatred coming out in the open in the religious community to please the consciousness of the non religious.
Why should they be religious, after all, the religious themselves are certainly guilty of sins too!!!
When the Vaad has a hashkafa that isn’t the same as Mashiach, I wonder if they will fine him 5000 shek.
Ooh my gosh,
do these people learn ‘mussar’? gevald, since the bais din and the people involved learn mussar they must be correct, no?
Is this an ad from Meshichist Lubavitchers? It seems that it may be, as one of the Shiurim mentioned is called “Toras HaGeula”. If so, the Va’ad is justified in penalizing the publishers, as Meshichist beliefs are beyond the pale of normative Yiddishkeit.
an Israeli Yid
can you print the full page apology letter (hisnatzlus) that was printed in today’s edition of that publication. It makes no mention of the “offensive” advertisment by detail. What took a week for the story to come out? toshavei ha kiryah have no clue what was so bad that he had to apologize!!!
P.S. local chabadnikim number but a handfull, but in the outlying areas there are more.
I can really appreciate everyone’s call for peace and to do away with machlokes. The requests are clearly heartfelt and for the most part sincere. However I must say, and I mean no offense, that they are based on a great misconception. Yiddishkeit is not about live and let live. It is not about pick and choose. It is about mesorah. It is about emunas Chachomim. And it is about al titosh Toras Imecha. Machlokes came in to this world with the breaking of the luchos by Moshe Rabbeinu. He received a yeyasher koach for doing so. This is because Torah and kovod haTorah is increased through machlokes; eilu va’eilu divrei E-lokim chaim. To not take a stand is to ignore our obligation to stand up for kovod HaTorah.
There is nothing outside of the Torah. For thousands of years Yidden asked their morei hora’ah for advice in business, shiduchim, purchases, etc. Not always were these questions of halachah. They were requests for advice and the advice was accepted with emunas chachomim. A community whose newspaper’s content is determined by a vaad of Rabbonim or on their advice is a community that functions with emunas chachomim and with an awareness that there is a ratzo n HaShem in/for everything. Whether this vaad is voicing an opinion on Chabad Chasidus – which is an entire philosophy not limited to nusach ha’tefilah or how to make tzitzis – is irrelevant. What is important here is that a community is trying to live al pi daas Torah. They are not going into Kfar Chabad and protesting or trying to bring their derech and outlook to Chabad. They are trying to maintain their mesorah in their community. If this has anything to do with moshiach, it is probably that they are bringing him closer by bringing the members of their community closer to the way things were.
Israeli Yid, are you serious?! The Satmar Rebbe must have also been a Mishechist, since he has a Sefer named Al Hageula v’Al Hatmura!
These Sheurim that they set up for the public are, in general, not Mishechist.
Why is it that everyone these days goes overboard. The Vaad was initially a good idea, making sure the paper doesn’t put in stuff not fit to print for a frumme oilam. Now they have to go and abuse this position and push their anti Chabbad agenda.
If you learn Halacha and then Chaidus there is nothing wrong.
But if the Shulchan Aruch Harav is just there to collect dust, we are in deep trouble.
The same problem was with Mussar movement. [And Gematrios], Those that get into Mussar [and Gematria] and don’t know Gemarah and Shuchan Aruch, [they have a Shulchan with Parparaos with no פת meat and potatoes]
לסוף הסעודה פרפראות הם טוב מאוד
אבל פרפראות בלי סעודה ופת, מזיק
People are upset why intimidation and force is being used by those against Chabad.
They don’t realize, that when Moshe Rabeinu saw the Eigel Hazohov, he did not set up a meeting, to give a lecture about true Eminah, or to explain to the Yidden, how Matan Torah should have been a solid proof that Hkb”h chose Moshe.
Instead, he used force to kill all those who were leading the opposition.
During the 2nd Bayis, the Yoisiffin writes, that the Tzidoikim were beaten only by physical force.
Ader:
Your comparison of SA Harav and his maamorim to r”L Eigel etc. is not worthy of response. Such meyvinus on Eigel seems to indicate a similar IQ.
Have rachmunos on yourself and your family and zip it.
we all dont know the whole story so none of us can judge
Shuali, if Yiddishleit was about mesorah, then why did Hillel say that the entire Torah was Mai dSani Lach Lchavrech Lo Saavid? He should have said it was about keeping the Mesorah.
Yiddishkeit is about Menschlachkeit, period. That is the only Mesorah we have.
PS. the RBSH doesn’t need us to stick up for Him. He is a Big Boy. All he wants is for us to get along with each other and live the Darchei Noam which he gave us as a favor to us. It is not about doing him any favors. Quite frankly, He doesn’t need any.
Pashuteh Yid 2.0: “Yiddishkeit is about Menschlachkeit, period”
So why do we have the rest of the Torah???
Christianity also has “menchlichkeit” and also believes in the second coming of a dead moshiach,what is the difference???
WELCOME TO MODIIN ILIT, WHERE ANTI-SEMITISM IS BLOOMING- ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INVOLVES CHASSIDIM. As a local resident, I can tell all of you that this Beis Medrash happens to be a very chashuve place which has hosted extremely chashuve speakers that I have been privileged to hear. What a chillul Hashem! These are not mishichistim! I am embaressed that such a story happened here. Being that I am a Chassid myself, (not CHabad) I can say first hand that this city stinks of anti-semitism. I have had my share of this hatred, felt on my own skin too. What a horrible story! And then he has to go and apologize, noch?!?!? A shande! Stand strong! We’re behind you!
Goodbye – I also live in Modiin Ilit. Soon they’ll be fining papers for advertising sephardi shiurim!!! mamesh a booshah!
Hello99, you asked why we need the rest of Yiddishkeit. That is a good kashya, but you really need to ask Hillel himself, and also Rebbe Akiva who said Vahavta lreacha komocha–zeh klal gadol batorah, and also Rebbe in Pirkei Avos, Perek 2, Eizohi derech yeshara shayavor bah haadam, kol shehi tiferese loseha, vtiferes lo min haadam, and see countless similar Mekoros.
A possible answer is that without the discipline of mitzvos, we wouldn’t feel enough for the other person, or be able to force ourselves to do what is necessary to help him when it was inconvenient.
I.e., on Yom Kippur we know what it is like to feel hungry, so we have more rachmanus on the poor. (See haftara of Yom Kippur, Halo paros lraev lachmecha…)
Note that the mesorah of menschlachkeit was started by Avraham Avinu who didn’t scream or lecture or make a machaah or put up pashkvilim at the three travelers who he thought were idol worshippers. Instead he made them a nice meal and taught them about brachos and hakaras hatov to the Borei, as he did with all his guests.
Avraham Avinu also davened for the Anshei Sdom, the worst of the worst, and Chumash doesn’t tell us he threw rocks at them. The true derech of the Torah is to influence people with gentleness and sincere kindness, and for their own good, not for some ego trip that my derech or rebbe is better than your derech or rebbe.
As for your question about Christianity, they preach love, but in fact, do they have such a great track record? Crusades, Inquisitions, Expulsions, Holocausts, etc.
Yiddishkeit is the true religion of Menschlachkeit towards all humanity (not just those who believe exactly as I do), and the founder of that concept.