Jerusalem municipality workers on Monday night worked under the cover of darkness, removing the Eida Chareidis’ mehadrin eruv from the city. The area in question covers from Bayit Vegan to Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital, 30 poles.
According to a Kikar Shabbat report, Rabbi Yaakov Yitzchak Ruchman, of the Eida’s eruv committee, the matter was worked out with the previous City Hall administration during the tenure of Mayor Uri Lupoliansky.
“From time to time, the eruv was damaged by secularists and we were compelled to make repairs. Of late, things have been quiet but it appears it was the quiet before the storm” Rav Ruchman is quoted as saying. “Tonight, we received an order from the city director-general that the eruv must be removed. The director general of the religious council stated the eruv may not be compromised”.
The city however appeared to have a different agenda and within a matter of hours, the eruv was taken down.
In response, City Hall released a statement explaining that an understanding was reached between the religious council’s Rav Moshe Katzenelbogen, who is responsible for the eruv and rabbonim who deal with the eruv in the city after the city completed upgrading and expansion in the area of Kiryat Yovel and this was done within the expected time frame and planned in advance.
City Hall adds R’ Katzenelbogen is the authority regarding the eruv, adding it will continue working in the future with the rav and all relevant rabbonim with a constant awareness regarding the needs of city residents.
(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
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Where else in the world would this happen? Nobody can hate Yiddishkeit the way Jews can hate Yiddishkeit.
I wonder if the mehadrin eruv along the side streets (e.g. Ein Gedi, Dostrevski) that lead to Derech Chevron has a permit.
Why exactly? I am slightly confused. It was agreed to be taken down… then what?
^ Locknload – nobody hates yiddishkeit like Jews hate yiddishkeit because a Jew really wants it.
??? can some one explain what happened
This, unfortunatly, is the type of behavor that fuels the fire for the extremeist in Meah Shearim. I don’t see how frum and non-frum Jews can live in peace with each other when things like this are done.
Being that I’ve never ever seen an Eruv that was set up in a way that it distracted the flow of traffic to either cars or pedestrians, I’d be pretty surprised to find this to be a יוצי מן הכלל.
It is clear that this was stirred by anti-religious Jews and the government is showing that it is catering to their wickedness. I don’t agree to the violence in Meah Shearim, but I can certainly understand what fuels them.
This was certainly a wicked act on the part of the government. הא ראיה? The fact that they had to do this under the cover of darkness. They obviously new that this was wrong to do and wanted to finish before anyone could try to stop them.
If they were doing this to be nasty, it would have been done on Thursday evening or Friday morning. This sounds more like a combination of misunderstanding or typical bureaucratic incompetence, than malice.
This is not an issue of hating Yiddishkeit. There is an eruv in Yerushalayim that covers the whole of the city taht is supervised by yirei shomayim and check regularly. The Eida Chareis put up another eruv. At the same time their adherents destroy city property causing serious financial damge as well as grave danger to human life in the process. Wake up to the world of real politics Eidaniks – the Jerusalem Municipality can play games as well!
Let’s see how this turns out.
I must say that I suspect that more than 30 poles are involved. The distance for Bait VaGan to Ein Kerem hospital cannot be covered by 30 poles. Just checked on Google Earth: it’s a distance of 3 to 4 kilometers (3 straight, 4 if you follow the road).
This Barkat…Now he’s taking revenge on the Eidah for all their protests…let him rot in…
#1 you are very right “JEWS ARE IT”S WORST ENEMIES”
but we have the bracha וכאשר יענו אותו כן ירבה וכן יפרוץ
Hardball. Finally they treating the Eidah the way the Eidah treats them. They don’t recognize the Medina. Now the Medina doesn’t recognize them.
The Eida should be glad about this. It’s another excuse to protest and call other Jews Naz–s
it’s because the eidah is fighting the city on too many issues. If they lived under the arabs they wouldn’t allow it either. you reap what you sow.
The Chareidim have done an excellent job of teaching the seculars to hate them,
So now they can congratulate themselves on a job well done!
Aveira goreress aveira.
When will the Eida see that their actions are spiraling into malice, hatred, misunderstanding, and causing the descent of Kavod Shamayim.
I do fall under the sterio-type of “chareidi”, or “God feering”. But you must understand. Since 1948 the state has held status quo in terms of chillul Shabbos in Yerushalayim. The opening of the carta parking was VERY BAD and MUST be protested(if you think this is a lone statement ask your local Rav, I can assure thier upholding of the previous statement).You must undersand that the people protesting are not crazy(as a genaral rule). BUT, as a VERY promenint rav(you would not critisize this if you knew his name)”there are a few crazies desroying the country”. Not 10,000, not 5,000, probably less than 500. Chareidim, Chilonim, Moderd orthadox, chardal and Dati Leumi alike all have work to do but lets not veiw “Chareidim” only as the fifty guys protesting by burning down the city for a third time. THe Hashkafa of the eida is not a bad onejust we don’t always listen to others.
sammygol:
Ask your questions to the Ran in Mesechtes Nedarim. The Ran has all the answers.
now it will be assur to throw rocks and dirty diapers at the police on shabbo. LOL
@ #8 Daniel Breslauer & #14 rabbiofberlin
the poles are only needed where there’s no buildings,fences, walls or the like.
@ #18 sammygol & #20 straightshooter
this eruv is only to connect the outlying neighborhoods, there still remains an eruv around the central neighborhoods and each neighborhood seperately.
You guys are so funny? How can you equate the Eidah not recognizing the State to the State not recognizing the Eidah? The Eidah Hacharedis community has been living in Yerushalayim way before Zionism was even dreamt up. One day a bunch of secularists decide they are going to move to Eretz Yisroel and set up shop. And not only set up shop but try to rule over the people who preceded them. Why should they recognize them?
#23
Rabbiofberlin.
Maybe you ought to speak to those “jereim ushleimim’ that you refer to and you will find them in agreement with the eida
avreimi – So you are basically stating that the medina is taking נכמה. Are you condoning their actions? Even non-religious people can understand that נכמה is wrong. Furthermore, most religious communities within Jerusalem have communal Eiruvim because it is well understood amongst all Rabbanim that are experts in Eiruvin that the B’Datz and Rabanut Eiruvim that surround the whole city are not L’chatchila.
I spoke to one מומחין a long time ago who told me two things about the Jerusalem Eiruvim:
1. If I’m going to rely on the B’datz Eiruv I am better off relying on the Rabanut Eiruv because chalachikly it is a better Eiruv. (he explained why and the reasons given may not apply today so I don’t know if this still stands or not)
2. He told me that it is better that I not rely on either of them and only rely on the local eiruvim.
This is why communities make local Eiruvim.
I don’t know all the specifics in this case, but it appears that this eiruv was put up with government permission. If so, under what grounds do they have to tear it down? Is the medina moody? Today they say “yes”, tomorrow “No”.
rabbiofberlin: “It is thanks to all those secularists and frum jews who worked to rebuild our Holy land that the remnants of the eidah hacharedis can live peacefully in jerushalaim today.”
FYI they lived more peacefully under the Arabs before the Zionists came to antagonize them.
#22 I guess you don’t really have all the facts straight. 1 – The Eida was created because they were not happy with the fact that most of the Yishuv Hayoshon joined up with the Yishuv Hachodosh and the Rabbinate was taken over by the Yishuv Hachodosh. 2- All of the areas where the poles were removed from did not exist before the Yishuv Hachodosh arrived.
#22 lakwoodr —
#24 nishtgeshtoigen —
#26 msseeker —
Yasher koach for the Emes.