Trash receptacles were set ablaze on Shivtei Yisrael and Yirmiyahu Streets in Yerushalayim on Sunday afternoon in responded to the extended incarceration of detainees arrested during stormy shabbos’ protest against operating of Karta parking lot. If the court decides to accept the prosecutor’s request, they detainees will be held without bail pending the outcome of the trial against them.
Disturbances and interruption of traffic were also reported on Yoel Street and in the area of the Satmar Beis Medresh in the Geula area.
The plight of some of the detainees will be addressed in a Jerusalem court on Monday.
(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
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21 Responses
They should keep up the relentless pressure until the authorities cave. There is no basis to hold a protester in detention until trial.
such a chillul hashem and all these violent protests make frum Jews look really bad in the eyes of the non frum-no wonder why they hate the frum Jews. I am sorry to call them frum-all this violence is against everything we believe
These people do not recognize the authority of the Medinah over them. How can the Medinah then trust them to appear for trial? They are flight risks. As such there is no alternative but to hold them over for trial.
dear mr flatbusher
will you please give us “chareidim” any ideas how to deal with these guys you never know thwy might elect you to be the next “ravvad”
from a very concered “chareidi”
Midwest, the cops know if they open fire on these Yiddin, they will have a lot more firepower returned against them.
#9,
Incorrect. It is the secularist who fear overreacting.
None are throwing rocks at cops.
(From the legitimate protesters.)
Jospeh how are we to differentiate from the “legitimate” protesters and the illegitimate protesters? Moerover, who is to take responsibility for the illegitimate protesters? After all, no protest would equal no illegitimate protesters. Also what constitutes illegitimate protesting? Calling a poklice officer a Naz-, legitimate? How about throwing oneself in front of a moving car, legitimate? How about throwing rocks are cars, legitimate? How about barricading oneself to the entrance of the parking lot and refusing to move when directed to do so by the police? I ask this since on this very blog, it was reported that the Eida threatened to “set Jerusalem ablaze” like nothing seen before. Please clarify the issue.
cantoresq, the peaceful protestors are not responsible for unaffiliate wild youth who crash the scene. They have nothing to do with them, and these meshuganas don’t listen to anyone, least of all the Eida.
Thank you Joseph. Now please address the specifics of my prior post
Don’t believe everything you read on a website.
Also Joseph if those who throw rocks and set fires etc. are just lawless youth, contradicting the mandate of the Eida, why do you condemn the police for arresting them?
cantoresq, the illegitimate ones are a small rowdy bunch who mostly like to make a lot of noise by throwing a diaper or pebble. They can be civilly charged with littering, trespassing, blocking traffic or whatever the minor offense happens to be.
Thanks for the definition. So according to you, those who throw bigger rocks and block the gate to the parking lot, refusing to move when directed to do so, are legitimate?
Who said anyone does throw big rocks at cops? Some website? A press article?
Don’t believe it.
Why should we believe you, Joseph, over any other source on line? After all, you too are but a nameless and faceless collection of words on a screen.
Seek the truth from wherever you’ll find it. You won’t find it in any press.
And I don’t ask to look towards me for the answers. But certainly don’t look at know liers like JPost, Haaretz and the rest of the press.
Joseph, please be intellectually honest enough to admit that like choosing to believe in the authority of certain rabbis, you choose to believe those media outlets that share the biases of your programming/education. I would no longer expect you to accept the veracity of the Jerusalem than I would expect you to acknoledge the Torah greatness of R. Norman Lamm. You’ve been programmed to reject both. Very few people are able to look beyond that which their teachers want them to percieve and see the broader picture. You are a product of your upbringing and nothing more.
cantor, Believing in the authority of certain Rabbis, yes; believing any media outlets, emphatically not.
As far as programming, I presume from your own words you admit to being a product of a YU upbringing and nothing more, and reject a broader picture than what those teachers wish you to perceive.
Indeed I am a product of my upbringing. But that upbringing was eclectic, to say the least. As a matter of Judaism it featured my father z”l who was reared in the cradle of Hungarian chareidiut, but attended the Neolog Seminary in Budapest for high school (where he was the only boy to keep his “Chasan Sofer Payes”, and then medical school in Rome after WWII. For half of my childhood, he was generally not observant, but that which he did, he did with punctiliousness. For instance he had no qualms about working on Shabbos, but refused to ever drive to schul on Shabbos. He was merciless in his treatment of an otherwise frum man who became the chazzan in a Conservative schul; called him a hypocrite to his face. While he may have eaten unkosher meat in a resteraunt, our kitchen was glatt (when almost no one bought glatt meat). He insisted that his children get a Jewish education and sent us to an Orthodox day school. Since that school didn’t begin teaching Mishne until the fifth grade, he arranged for me to attend the more chareidi school every Sunday, when the third graders were taught Mishne. For years, until he became too sick, he attended a twice weekly two hour shiur at the local Kolel, spending an hour each day preparing for the class. When I started high school, feeling that I was not sufficiently proficient in Talmud, he hired a yungerman in the kolel to tutor/learn with me for three hours every day the summer before I went away to yeshiva in Chicago. Purim, every year was spent at the tish of the local chassidic rebbe, one Rabbi Deutsch. BTW, he eventually returned to complete observance and died a shalem. High school was spent in Skokie, where due to my being a avel my junior year, I spent most of my free time in a Beis Midrash, associating myself with the kollel avreichim, who by and large were Israeli chareidim in those days. After a year in Israel at an American “black hat” yeshiva, I went to YU. I have a niece married to a kollel yungerman in Lakewood, and several chareidi cousins to boot. So yes Joseph I am a product of my upbringing. But mine was a very complex and nuanced upbringing. There is no doubt in my mind that I bring alot more to the table than most people; especially you.