YWN Israel has learned Gavaad Eida ChareidiS HaGaon HaRav Yitzchak Tuvia Weiss Shlita is scheduled to meet on Monday afternoon in his home with Public Security Minister Yitzchak Aharonovitch and Tzion Station (Jerusalem Old City) Commander Bruno Stein.
According to reports, Stein initiated the meeting, which if it takes place as scheduled may very well be the first time the Eida Gavaad met with a minister of the Government of Israel.
Police are seeking to calm the situation and bring an end to the weekly Karta parking lot riots, especially with Elul on the horizon and the yomim tovim, a busy season for police, especially in Yerushalayim where they also contend with Ramadan and its security challenges on Har HaBayis.
(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
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“Calming the situation,” is up to the police and/or the mayor. They can close the parking lot anytime they want. As far as the eida chareidis is concerned, they have a chiyuv to protest. (Rock throwing not included.) Hopefully the mayor will give up soon. For those that don’t know, the big parking lot at karta isn’t needed, since no more than a few dozen or less use it on shabbos.
“Calming the situation” is up to the Chareidim. They need to stop being bitul zman and get back into the Beit Midrash. It’s pretty obvious they accomplish nothing other than Chillul Hashem and Chillul Shabbat. Have they made even one person decide to become frum because of the riots?
#2 The objective is not to make anyone frum but rather to stop in your face Chillul Shabbos. The only reason you consider it a Chillul Hashem is because the sanctity of Shabbos is not primary on your list or are simply insensitive to the issue as when we see here in America melocha being done your mind transalates it as a gentile is doing it and is not offensive whereas in Israel the assumption is that Jews are.
“They need to stop being bitul zman and get back into the Beit Midrash”
Your opinion is that it is Bitul Z’man vs The Eida’s opinion. I suspect you find the Beit midrash Bitul Z’man, too.
#3 nishtgeshtoigen: Ir zhogt goot! You said it well and you understand #2 better than s/he understands her/himself.
We have an obligation to listen to our Gedolim even if they say on left that it’s right and that right is left. Those who listen to the sages cannot go wrong. If the Gedolim say that protesting overrides chillul Hashem according to #2, we follow our sages.
Rabbi Weiss shlit”a is a true leader and knows that on basic issues of yiddishkeit there can be no compromise. The secular treat chillul Shabbat as if it is a business matter that can be negotiated and everyone gets the best of it, where compromising is the norm. They should know by now that Shabbat is not a personal matter but it’s Hashem’s commandment to observe Shabbat and not desecrate it. The truth of the matter is that all 613 mitzvot, including Shabbat, the secular Jews are equally obligated to keep and for every sin they commit they’ll get punished. Besides that, there’s is a mitzva to be moche – to protest.
Some facts:
More police are being mechalel shabbos because of these riots.
Nobody is driving less because of these riots.
No Chilul Shabbos is involved in the parking lot being open.
Conjecture:
Nobody will become frum because you threw stones at their car.
Some of the rioters really feel for the Chilul Shabbos and are prepared to risk imprisonment in the process of rioting.
#5
1)your facts do not relate to the issue. Nor are they facts. You obviously don’t understand the issues.
2)Your conjectures are fact. But again you don’t understand the issues
A yasher koach to big mo, nishtgeshtoigen, and Bar26 for your “on the ball” remarks that demonstrate your understanding of the matzif in Yerushlayim and Eretz Yisroel.