Baruch Hashem it appears that a solution is at hand that will bring an end to the controversy between Jerusalem City Hall and the Eida Chareidis surrounding city hall’s plans to open a municipal parking lot on shabbos to accommodate visitors to the capital.
It appears a private parking lot of a hotel operated by Alfred Akirov will be used, satisfying the need of being close to the old city, and also acceptable to the Eida, since the lot is private and not a venture of the Jerusalem Municipality.
While Jerusalem City Hall confirms the information, Rav Yosef Rosenfeld of the Vaad L’maan Shabbos states he is unaware of any such agreement, indicating such an arrangement is unacceptable to him.
(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
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it is interesting that this site did not chose to publish what happened during the protest. dirty diapers and rocks were thrown, among other things. There is something terribly wrong with frum, supposedly shabbos observant Jews who think it is ok to protest something by throwing rocks and dirty diapers. And shame on the leaders for not speaking out against it. It is really a chilul Hashem.
I don’t get it. The Eida does not recognise the Zionist state or any of its institutions, of which the Jerusalem Municipality is one. What difference does it make to Kedushas Shabbos if the parking lot is privately owned or owned by the Municipality? Isn’t the lot opwned by the selfsame Akirov who wanted to open his movie theatres on Shabbos? What is the difference between a movie theatre and a car park? Maybe the answer is that the Mamilla Hotel parking lot is not on the way from Meah Shearim to the Jaffa Gate.
to comment #3 and #4 why is it that every time a frum persons (assuming you are frum being that you read YWN) gets a chance to bash another frum person they do?? just a thought i had??? think about it??
The best solution is to send the hilonim back to where they came from (America, Germany, whatever).
#6: Do you think that we chareidim, with all our in-fighting and petty arguments, would do a better job in running the country? Do you think one group within our chareidishe circles, won’t through diapers at the other?
Rather the best solution is for us to behave in a way that we create a kiddush H’ and than all the chilonim will want to become chareidi.
#5, you have an issue with bashing those who are throwing rocks and dirty diapers at an Hafganah? Well I guess if they did it Leshem Shomayim so its OK.
lets all make kiddush and sing zmiros and stop the sinas chinam for which yerushlaim was destroyed>
#7– The Hareidi community, whether in golus as a totally marginalized minority group, or in Israel under conditions of hostile occupation (where we marvel when a policeman is prosecuted for assaulting one of us), have done a fantastic job of running our own affairs in welfare and education. The answer is YES, WE CAN run things if given the chance.
It is unreasonable to expect the hilonim, many of whom are goyim by halacha, and most of whom have been cut off from Yiddishkeit from a century, to become frum. They are not about to reject the ways of their ancestors going back multiple generations, not to mention their economic and social status in the world. Our continued existence is a living proof that their culture is based on a lie.
And to #8 – in a world in which people normally through grenades to show displeasure at policies, throwing dirty diapers is mere civil disobedience — if the Arabs and Zionists starting throwing diapers at each other, the world would rejoice and marvel at how civilized they had become.
#12 – are you kidding me??? The Chareidi community in Israel takes tons of money from the State – that is why it has done a fantastic job? Basically the community allows its members to live in poverty -working is bad, being in the army is bad – it is all bad. A fantastic job because the political system allows the community to use welfare and other hand outs to its advantage. You are kidding yourself if you think it is the hilonim who have it all wrong. We need to take a good look at ourselves and see what is wrong in our own communities – leaders who don’t speak out about child sexual abuse, leaders who allow members to committ chilulei Hashem by having Bar Mitzvahs in jail, not following government rules, tax evasion. Somehow it is always the hilonim who have the problem!
I do not know if it is too late for my comment to get posted and all the more that anyone will notice it, but it’s worth a try.
I just wanted to state that the majority of those that posted here should do some hard introspection and seek guidance as well from Gedolim.
I see extremism here on both sides that in my opinion has no bases in Torah Judaism.
On the one side is the foolish attitude to totally cut off non-religious Jews from Yiddishkeit. This has NO bases in Torah Hashkafa according to ALL opinions (except perhaps for the Nutty Cutters as I call them). To say that most secular Israelis are Goyim needs no rebuttal. Shtuyot!!!
On the other side is the foolish notion that we are in great debt towards the anti-religious government that had tried on many occasions (sometimes successfully) to uproot Torah from its people for the financial support that it has given Yeshivas. This is akin to demanding Hakorat Hatov to Germany for giving Jews the food in the concentration camps that kept them alive. Not to mention that those that are protesting are followers of the Eidei Chareidi who DON”T TAKE A PENNY FROM THE GOVERNMENT FOR ANY OF ITS INSTITUTIONS. Thus the point is MUTE.
I sadly feel that many of you are preventing Moshiach from coming through your petty sinas chinam that comes from “clinging” on to “Shitas” instead of just having a view point on certain issues.
Sorry if I’m being too sharp. 🙁