16 Responses

1. As much as I personally feel it’s reasonable to draft bnei yeshivos especially during a time of war (for sure those not even wanting to be there), Wow, I wish the Arabs could see the “what” and “how” we fight. No less, from our “extremists”. Ashreinu..

2. we will never serve these atheists Zionists, it is our learning that protects them

3. It would be nice if the Bnei Hesder Yeshivot fighting in Gaza got off for Bein Hazmanim. No such luck.

4. Lakewoodbt I am confused. Are the accursed zionists atheists or ovdei avoda zara or both? Secondly does your learning protect ovdei avoda zara and athiests or only Yidden who think like you (and EVERY Gadol who has EVER existed)? Your brand of ahavas yisrael is making me reconsider what כל ישראל יש להם חלק לעולם הבא really means.

5. @IraK

   why would that be nice? do they not want to keep worshiping their idol?

6. Anyone who can sincerely advocate for closing the books and sending them to war so that we will have zero Torah protection is clearly someone who doesn’t value what they are learning. I guess you just think it’s a bunch of books written by whoever. The Torah is the reason the world was created, it preceded the world’s creation. If not for them learning we would have been annihilated a long time ago just based on the reality of how many enemies we have and their abilities. This goes above nature. It’s divine assistance. Stop thinking the Torah is a waste of time and stop spitting the same lines as the Attorney General who is more than okay with giving Arabs benefits and visiting them in jail to make sure they have watermelon. Is that who your hero is? Is that who you look up to? Get away from them and their ideology before it’s too late

7. gershy_246 it’s not a time of war. where’s the war? where’s the opposing army? israel is bombing civilians and sending soldiers into a death trap. all they had to do was watch the darn fence! There’s no war except in the heads of the zionists

8. Pleasestaycalm makes a very good point. Given what you know about how they forced our soldiers to fight and how many of them died because of their fear of killing a terrorists family, you want to Advocate that the Yeshiva Boys should go die for nothing? They should die to save a terrorist’s wife who gives out candies when we get Slaughter? Nobody should join that Army out of spite. All the soldiers should walk off the job given the zero regard the government has for their lives

9. I suspect this is the first time yeshivot received funding from the government in galus. Since that is not acknowledged and thanks is not given, perhaps it ought to be suspended. If you don’t want to fight for your country, your country ought not provide you any assistance.

10. DrYidd:
    Of course not. Registered schools have received funding by their respective governments well before the Zionists invaded the holy land and later declared their “independence” [sic].

    Oh, and while on the topic: Russian President Vladimir Putin is the greatest supporter of Torah in the world, much more so than the wicked Zionists whose very purpose is to destroy Torah.

11. DrYidd:
    Your perspective is also totally backwards. The Jews were living peacefully in the holy land before the Zionists invaded over a century ago. The Jews begged the Zionists to stop and to leave them alone in peace. The wicked Zionists refused, because the Zionists’ very purpose is to shmad Jews and replace Judaism with their idolatrous and heretical religion of Zionism.

    Now that the Zionists have invaded and ruined the lives of the Jews there, the least the Zionists can do is leave the Jews alone. To any believer in G-d (unlike the Zionists), it would be wise of the Zionists to leave them alone because the only reason their little paradise still exists at all is due to the Torah of those Jews. But it seems the Zionists are literally hell-bent on their own destruction.

12. See how Mir Rosh Yeshiva Rav Laizer Yudel approached exemptions. Could someone report what his Rosh Yeshiva said?

    To obtain Toraso Umanuso, a statement attesting to that fact needed to be signed by the Rosh Yeshiva. Rav Laizer Yudel, with tears in his eyes, would tell each student that asked for his signature on the statement that “Torah is his profession” the following: “I have never told a falsehood in my life. I am signing that your profession is to study Torah. Please learn diligently and commit yourself to it, so that I am not a liar.”

13. Headline says “In A First, Hagaon HaRav Dov Landau Publicly Issues Clear Guidelines To Bnei Yeshivos”

    It’s a first that a gadol issued clear guidance.

    That’s what it says.

    OK.

    I would have thought that providing clear guidance was almost a ((checks notes)) job description for someone being a gadol. I guess being unclear, or passing time not issuing guidance, or issuing vague-something resembling guidance isn’t such a good idea after all…?

14. HaKatan, your knowledge of history is even less than your name. Are you unaware of the fact that there are religious Zionists to whose ankles you do not reach?

15. Sad seeeing people giving Hamas propaganda and thinking they are being so frum.

    The old yishuv was not being funded by the Arabs. It was a small group of persecuted Jews . They largely worked at poverty wages. The idea of lifelong learning for a community certainly did not exist.

    Learning Torah and serving in the IDF can be combined. Haredi army units offer both daily learning along witt service. Hesder yeshiva programs allow for alternate periods of learning and service.

    Religious Jews don’t rely on miracles. Yaakov Avinu prepqred for war. Yehoahua fought war to conquer Israel. Neither sat around learning expecting others to fight.

    We believe Haahem provides us with food. Roshei Yeshiva don’t simply expect meals to show up however. They raise money to pay for it all. Then they have people working in kitchens to prepare the meals. Histodlus is part of Torah life.

    Rabbi Kanivieaky was an IDF veteran. Somehow he still learned in his life. It is possible

16. Hakatan, let’s set the record straight. Read in it’s entirety the fallacy that Jewish life was rosy in Palestine until the zionists ruined everything:
    The fallacy of tranquil life for Jews in the middle east prior to zionism:

    In the nineteenth century, a great many accounts of Jewish life in Arab-Muslim lands reveal a condition characterized primarily by contempt. In 1910, a Western traveler to Yemen wrote: “The Jew is the beast on whom one beats at any time, for no reason, to calm one’s nerves, to appease one’s anger”. Between Jews and Arab-Muslims, coexistence is fragile, and remains at the mercy of the slightest incident, especially when Jews forget what Muslim society calls “their sense of humility”. Codified violence keeps everyone in their place, at the risk of being accompanied by the spilling of blood.

    ****Based on a study of the archives of Islamic courts in Palestine, Israeli historian Amnon Cohen reconstructs the reality of the condition of Jewish dhimmis ***before the beginnings of Zionism,**** based on legal and administrative sources spanning almost six hundred years, from the Prophet to Saladin in the XIIth century.*****

    These documents attest to the fact that the so-called “Pact of Umar”, i.e. the codification of the dhimma, “had retained for many generations an indisputable character”. However, contrary to its official name, the “Pact of Umar” is not a treaty signed between two parties.**** It was not the subject of negotiation, but a constraint exerted on subjugated populations.****

    The dhimma is inscribed first and foremost in space, through radical separation from the Muslim majority. For example, in public baths in Jerusalem, where all residents are allowed to go, Jews must continue to be distinguished from Muslims. In everyday life, the Jew must wear a yellow turban. Removing it or wearing any other color is interpreted as an attempt to pass oneself off as a Muslim. Jewish women must wear a yellow garment or piece of cloth to distinguish themselves from Muslim women. The nudity of public baths meant that another distinctive sign was required: any Jew entering the baths had to carry a bell to signal his arrival.

    While every bathhouse guest receives a towel, it’s customary to reserve for Jews the most tattered and worn-out towels. The public baths are just one example of the radical system of segregation embodied by a dhimma that embraces all aspects of life…

    The Jews of pre- zionist Palestine did not have cordial relationships with their Arab neighbors. They were taxed into poverty and treated as second class citizen by those who looked down with contemp on them. You need look no further than Rambam’s iggeres teiman in 1170 to see how our Muslim brothers threatened and abused the Jews, long before Herzl was twinkle in his mother’s eye.