Former Chief Rabbi HaGaon HaRav Yosef Yitzchak, member of the Moetzes Chachmei HaTorah of Shas, instructed bnei yeshivos to tear up any draft orders they receive and flush them down the toilet.
During a sichah the Rav delivered to bnei yeshivos at the beginning of the week, he said: “You’re Baruch Hashem sitting and learning. If you have problems with the army, they sent you a draft order, listen to the Gedolei Yisrael.”
“Last Adar, I was still in office and I announced that if they don’t let us learn Torah here, we’ll go abroad. We need to learn Torah. Why did we return to Eretz Yisrael? To be secular?”
“I said this clearly and they filed a petition against me to the Supreme Court, ordering to remove me from my position as a Dayan in the Beis Din HaGadol. They didn’t succeed, we stood firm. ‘לא תגורו מפני איש.’ The Roshei Yeshivos – mainly the Ashkenazim – joined us and also stood firm.”
“I say that if a draft notice comes – tear it up…throw it in the toilet, and flush it.”
HaRav Yosef added: “Be careful not to run a red light, don’t commit traffic violations. Why am I saying this? There was a bachur who committed traffic violations, he was stopped – they saw he was a draft dodger and took him into custody.’
“Don’t be afraid,” HaRav Yosef added. “Hakadosh Baruch Hu is with you. Let’s hope it will pass, this is a very difficult time for the Olam HaYeshivos, there are decrees. be strong.”
(YWN Israel Desk – Jerusalem)
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13 Responses
Bs”d
I second that!
I mentioned in connection with a previous news report about returning the body of a hostage today, that I was wondering if a Jewish soldier is allowed to risk his life to rescue a mais. People were known to have sometimes risked their lives in the Holocaust , in order to give someone a proper Jewish burial. It is question for a Posaik. So I thought that it may be ossur to join the IDF even in the new proposed Charedi brigade, b/c a person may be asked to go against halachah.
What do people think?
It’s good they don’t have septic
gadol hamachtio yoter min ha’horgoh
yashardik:
The IDF, in any form, is shmad. Period. Of course it’s assur.
lbj:
Except that the “Religious Zionists” consider their idol to be a bigger mitzvah than anything else.
I respectfully submit that even if Rav Yosef, shlit”a, strongly believes that bnei Yeshiva should not respond to draft orders — he should use “loshon n’kiyoh”, refined language, in expressing his opinion. Publicly instructing people to flush anything down a toilet is inappropriate, especially for a Rav b’Yisroel.
Hold The Line!! ..is the message .
Aside from soldiers, gonna need plubmers.
I hold it’s a huge zechus to learn full time (make 3 daily sedarim part of Sheurut Leumi) and huge zchus to serve for anyone who doesn’t.
He’s saying what all the other Gedolim have also said.
@Tas loco 248,” keshot atsmeicha ve acharkach keshot acheirim”
Wow, what a way to speak.
What has happened to our people???
This extremism is so unhealthy. Its simply dangerous rhetoric.
Moshe:
Your namesake took the eigel, crushed it, and fed its dust to the worshipers of that idol. You probably feel he was also too extreme. But G-d and His Torah disagree.
With all due respect to a tremendous Talmid Chacham, you returned to Eretz Yisrael to learn, but there wouldn’t be an eretz yisrael to learn in, without an army, if everyone just flushed their Tzav in the toilet.
אסור לסמוך על הנס.
חוץ מהגנת ארץ ישראל? לא כתוב.
what’s wrong with the new charedi unit Chashmonaim or the Hesder unit? and if there is something wrong with them why not work on perfecting them to suit the needs of chareidim who want to remain spiritually strong in the army? part of the day can include 4 hours of learning.
for the elites who want to learn more than 8 hours a day we can set up ankle monitors to ensure they are really learning that much to get an exemption.
Ankle monitors?
You pathetic hater go into a real yeshiva and count the guys in the coffee room and then go count the guys that are in the beis Medrash and tell me the ratio
Hate has no bounds