The horrific reality that exists this eruv Shabbos is that many residents and visitors of Yerushalayim will unwittingly carry on Shabbos even though the eruv is down in many, many areas. Many residents not in the loop will not hear the eruv is down in a large portion of the city. Many tourists in the city’s hotels may not receive the message not to carry this Shabbos.
As reported earlier by YWN, chilonim (secularists) over the past weeks have been intentionally cutting down the eruv. Last week’s attacks resulted in extensive damage and many people were mechalel Shabbos without knowing it. This is part of the war being waged to prevent the continued influx of chareidi families into the Kiryat Yovel and Kiryat Malachi neighborhoods of the capital.
The mehadrin eruv committee has urged people to inquire in their neighborhoods, to speak with rabbonim, stating there is no eruv on roadways connecting one Yerushalayim neighborhood to another, and many neighborhoods have no eruv either. This ban includes carrying to and from the Kosel.
One wishing to inquire before Shabbos is urged to phone the hotline number, 1-700-501-522.
(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
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I would not qualify it as “horrific.” If someone does not knwo the eruv is down, they are a b’oneis. If they know it’s down and carry anyway they are b’shoigeg. A terror attack is horrific. This is sad, unfortunate, and will affect a lot of people, but if most rabbonim know about the issue, and you ahve to assume most rabbonim do, then a lack of eruv will probably be announced in shuls and people will not carry.
Note: “Hilonim” NOT “Palestinians”
The Muslims only object to Jews running Eretz Yisrael, and imposing secular European culture on them.
The Hilonim object to us being in Eretz Yisrel.
I am not saying at all that what the Chilonim are doing is right, because it is not. However, the Chilonim are doing what they can do to fight back against the Chareidim. And although Nekama is not right either, they are really left with no choice.
This is Mida Kneged Mida. The Chareidim FORCE their lifestyle (whehter right or wrong) on the Chilonim, so the Chilonim are FORCING their lifestyle (Chillul Shabbos) on the Chareidim.
The solution is simple! Both sides should live and let live. However, the Chareidim have no intention of doing so, because they feel that they are the emissaries of Hashem to FORCE what they believe is Derech Hatorah. Now, again, I am not saying whether any side is right or wrong. I am just introducing the facts.
On a personal note, I went on a boat ride with my family, and there were hundreds of other people on the boat, of all walks of life, in Teveiria. The captian put on slow music, and my family members asked the Captain to play a particular song. So when the slow song (I think it was MBD’s Memories) ended, and the requested song started to play, I am not kidding you, at least 20 Chareidim threatened my families lives, if the song was not turned off immediately. It is OK for everyone to hear their stuff, but its not OK for everyone to hear our music.
Again, live and let live.
And I know what the pundits are going to say, “it’s not music”! Well, Music is anything, that moves the body and soul. We don’t need a Chareidi music committe to tell us, what to listen to. Rabbi Avigdor Miller Zatzal said, “Music is grabage!” and although I am not on the caliber of Rabbi Miller, I strongly disagree!
Again, live and let live.
Otheriwse, this is exactly what you get: Jew vs.Jew, and no one will win!
Shabbat Shalom!
Yissi
The hotline just told us that to and fro the internal neighborhoods are fine (i.e ezras torah, arzei , sarei yisroel etc) The issue lies more with the outer ones (givat shaul etc). Please call for yourself – this is not a psak but that is what we were told.
This is not true. See the front page of today’s Yated Neeman.
This refers only to the “mehudar” eruvim – whatever that means. from what I understand there is a general eruv around Yerushalayim. Just because these so-called mehudar ones are down does NOT mean there is no eruv & what to be somaych on!
This is most confusing.
There are two city eruvim to rely on.
They were considered kosher by the badatz for decades.
Putting up these new eruvim and saying you can’t rely on the general one seems to be “motzei laaz al horishonim” which is definitely assur. So they are being machmir on a chumra while being oveir on a vadai!
Also, these rabbonim are saying it’s terrible not to have kosher eruv, while in New York the rabbonim don’t seem to think so!
I AM CONFUSED!
hmmm. Here in London our eruv has a website with a map and status and sms alerts so that eruv users know exactly if and where they can cary. This is the kind of transparancy that could be used in Israel – try finding a map of an Israeli Eruv online, or evidence that it has been checked on Friday and is OK – you wont find that kind of information.
#2 read #3
#3 read #2
#2, is what #3 says (about not letting live and let live) true?
#3, is what #2 says (that the not yet frum want the frum out, even if the frum would leave them alone) true?
Onklus translates a non-kohen (Zar) as a hiloni. #2, do you have something against non-Kohanim?
#1
“If they know it’s down and carry anyway they are b’shoigeg”
is this a typo?
#1
“If someone does not know the eruv is down, they are a b’oneis”
since they could have checked the phone line and didnt, they are at best b’shogeig.
Mr Spira,
This post is wrong in so many ways:
1) The eruv is not down. Some of the mehudar eiruvim are down.
2) There is no chilul shabbos. There are still valid eruvim.
3) By blaming “chilonim” you imply that chilonim as a group are behind this. Why not simply say “vandals” since it’s probably a very small number of people involved.
4) War being waged??? sheesh.
4) Horrific? Get some perspective.
#10, I meant to say meizid or tinok shenishba.
#11, true, but the eruv has a chezkas kashrus and they may also rely on being told at shul whether it’s up/down. I never call the hotline, relying instead on word of mouth from the gabbaim in shul. I suspect most people do the same.
#12 I believe that you are the one who needs to get some perspective.
One person being over on a d’orisa is pretty stinking horrific, and many people being over is definitely horrific. Just because you don’t care about torah and mitzvos the way you should doesn’t mean you should knock those who do. Instead you should mourn over the fact that you do not find this horrific.
Wow so many comments wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An eruv has no chezkas kashrus, unless it usually needs no repairs. If nearly every week there’s something that needs to be fixed, then one cannot rely on it without checking the web site or the hotline, or receiving the email, or whatever other method is used to let people know that it’s up. And the only way to know whether it has such a chezkas kashrus is to ask – you can’t just assume that because it’s up every week that means it didn’t need repairs. Usually an urban eruv does break often, but it’s fixed before Shabbos.