Thirty two Peleg Yerushalmi protesters were arrested by police on Tuesday for blocking Route 4 at Coca-Cola Junction in a demonstration against proposals to draft them into the military.
Police used horses and officers were in riot gear when they broke up the protest.
According to police reports, some protesters verbally assaulted officers, calling them “Nazis,” and lay down under police vehicles in an attempt to block their movement.
The protestors were identified as members of Peleg Yerushalmi, a group that regularly protests against the enlistment of yeshiva bochurim into the military.
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Unfortunately, it would be a violation of international law to drop them out of helicopters over Gaza without a parachute. The International Court of Justice would also object to using them to check for hidden explosive devices instead of risking the lives of innocent “bomb-sniffing” dogs.
Ywn is a shtickel schizophrenic quoting all the gedolim how evil the Medina is and then when ppl use the term nazis they make it sound like a big avlah. that’s what they are. they despise Yiddishkeit and you know it and anyone who despises HaShem and his Torah deserves to be called such that was at the core of the nazis actions a despising of HaShem and of Yiddishkeit just like the pesukim say about amaleik its time to stop having it both ways ywn.
Ad Mosai will you be poseiach al shtey haseyfim
too bad the police only beat up and arrest the charadim but rarely the anarchist leftists who burn tires illegally blocking hiways.
Do you read your headlines before you post them?
Don’t arrest them put them in uniform and train them to be graft soldiers. If they can be on the streets causing problems and not learning. Then give them a new occupation IDF
Peleg is a marginalized faction with only a handful of members. However from their perspective, the Israeli Supreme Court is working hard to turn them into the vanguard of the Hareidi community, and giving them more influence than they ever dreamed of having.
Is it really impossible to serve in the IDF and be an observant Orthodox Jew? The answer to this important question needs to be seriously considered in an unbiased manner.The claim from nahal haredi is and I quote “In the Haredi tracks in the IDF, there is full adjustment to the needs of the Haredi soldier in issues such as gender, Sabbath observance, strict observance of prayers and time for tora study, and unique accompaniment of rabbis and advisers of the Nahal Haredi Association. The army does not want to change the lifestyle of the Haredi soldier, but to allow the preservation of values while serving and contributing to the people of Israel.” Then you have people like @pure yidishkeit who claim it’s all a farce. Which is I think certainly an exaggeration. It can’t be denied that there are many many frum soldiers in the IDF. At the same time there are undoubtedly many challenges to be faced in that situation that are not present in the sheltered lifestyle of mainstream haredi. However to equate it with shmad as in old school cantonist style is ridiculous and patently false . I seriously doubt anybody who goes into the IDF and wishes to remain observant will come out secular. The problems mentioned by @pure yidishkeit are not caused by any official structure of nahal haredi but rather by already religiously weak individuals who found the army an escape. On the contrary if more mainstream observant people would enlist it would strengthen the religiosity of those units. Not to mention the increased manpower would give them far more leverage to enact any further changes they felt were needed. Nobody is saying that those who are truly serious learners should become soldiers.Scholars are a necessity . But the question is is it really impossible for those who are not learning 8 hours a day to join the IDF and remain observant? If you have the time of day and the courage to sit next to a massive riot police horse that could flatten you in an instant, perhaps the best expression of your bravery is in the IDF?
They should block the main highways in Tel Aviv; that’ll have a much better impact and affect the Zionists where is hurts them.
Looks like Peleg was right all along — the zionists’ goal was always conscription of yeshiva bachurs.
Gadolhadorah: Arguably under international law, the conscription of conscientious objectors is a crime against humanity. If some objects to service in the army since they feel learning Torah is more important tha being a solider, that’s a policy dispute . But if someone holds, based on the writings of the original Satmar Rebbe, the the establishment of Medinat Yisrael is prohibited by Torah, that is conscientious objection.
It should be noted that most western countries (Turkey excepted) never conscripted conscientious objectors. Israel would be better off to allow Hareidim who oppose army service on grounds that Zionism is contrary to Torah to state so, and then be treated the same as they do Palestinians (tolerated with less than full civil rights).
“Under international law, the conscription of conscientious objectors is a crime against humanity…
Akuperma: Actually, under long-standing precedent, the issue of conscription (i.e. compulsory military service) is treated differently depending on whether the conscription is compelled by the government or a nonstate actor. Under international law, with few exceptions (e.g. drafting children, those suffering from mental illness etc.) conscription is viewed as a legitimate exercise of a state’s sovereignty, and there are no per se provisions of international law prohibiting the government of Israel from compelling military service.
While some mindless leaders of Peleg and other radical groups may consider the government as “illegitimate”, I believe Israeli prisons have really good law libraries where they can research the legal issues for appellate review while spending some quality time in public housing.