President Trump exhorted West Virginia voters to back Republican Senate candidate Patrick Morrisey in November’s midterm elections Tuesday night, but most of the rally followed a familiar pattern of Trump rattling off a list of accomplishments and urging voters to keep the Senate in GOP hands this November.
One of the last thing Trump mentioned was that he fulfilled his campaign promise to move the United States Embassy to Jerusalem.
But President Trump added that in return, Israel will now have to pay a “high price” in negotiations with the Palestinians. He added that the Palestinians will “get something very good” in return for the embassy move, “because it’s their turn next.” Trump didn’t offer any details on what the Palestinians will “get” in return.
Trump said: “If there’s ever going to be peace with the Palestinians, then this was a good thing to have done, because we took it off the table….In past peace talks, they never got past Jerusalem becoming the Capital….So I said let’s take it off the table. And you know what?…..In the negotiation, Israel will have to pay a higher price, because they won a very big thing…..But they (the Palestinians) will get something very good, cause it’s their turn next.”
(Charles Gross – YWN)
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…..” because they (Israel) won a very big thing ”
While the policies President Trump Implemented towards Israel, is deeply appreciated, and should always be applauded, this above statement is just preposterous!
This is their (our) homeland since 3500 years ago. Now, Yes!… If you want to use the term “won”, ok but that’s not referring to now days. We won it then, for always & forever!
God bless!
No, POTUS is right. Of course Yerushalayim is ours but nowhere in the sources does it say the US embassy needs to be in Yerushalayim. Pressing that button can now be seen to be as stupidly foolish as many opined when the button was being incessantly pressed.
We never lost it, we always had it.
The truth is the truth, it cannot be a lie.
How is it “off the table for now … when they are supposedly supposed to get something “good in return”?
That is a complete contradiction. The good they have been getting from is for all these years is not getting wiped out completely!
Well just as President Trump begins this talk, he got hit with 2 major hurdles:- Manafort & Cohen, which may curtail his ability to go forth on this one.
Lev melachim vesarim byad hashem. He had no choice & still has no choice.
One of the fundamental issues for Jews is the connection between the Torah and the rest of Hashem’s creation. To say that Jerusalem was “always ours” is to ignore the facts here on Earth. It will be ours when Moshiach comes. But taking it before Moshiach gives it back to us does not make it ours.
And there are two other popular (but incorrect) interpretations of the Torah – the so-called New Testament and the Quran. A “we are right and you are wrong” argument will not speed Moshiach or help with our lives in the time before Moshiach.
Just looking forward to Trump being called ANTI SEMITE, like we did it to Obama, just because we don’t agree with the policies, anyone who didn’t see something coming in favour of the Palestinian people needs to see a man in a white coat,
if this would not be a real public place I wold say a lot more. But will say that Israel keeps creating problems and then has pleasure to need to fix those, with bloods of young israeli soldiers. Its not Israel’s job to assure we keep ownership of Israel (Torah time borders) . Whoever wants safety should not think for a minute that Israel is the safe place to live till Moshiach comes. Misconception. Hashem will take care of everything at the right time and he does not need the help of the israeli government. Also by the way Israel, will you stop saying that you are watching me in another country or speaking on my behalf while I live in another country? ITS A LIE. I LIVE IN ….AND DID NOT ELECT YOU. I ELECTED MY PRESIDENT OF MY NON ISRAELI COUNTRY.
We don’t need Embassy. He can take it back if he wants. Jerusalem is the Jews Capital City forever. It’s a fact of thousands of years. It was a Gift from above to Win it back after the Holocaust. But we won it from no one on earth. It was Empty for 2,000 years since we last had it. We owe PA and USA Nothing for it. We have only the G-d Master of Universe to Thank and Owe something to.
Huju…. Hashem swore this land to us via our Avos…It’s ours,…. was ours, and will forever be ours…. Moshiach has his role, but it’s not to give us back Jerusalem…. We had it even though we got sent into exile….Those, are the facts on earth.. No amount of ostriches sticking their long necks into sand will contradict what our eyes see..
OJW….. you’re an extremist radical foaming at the mouth…. Thank Hashem for the miracles of EY….. Hodu LaShem….
Maybe this is why Jews aren’t supposed to be too involved with politics. There are opinions in the world besides Zionist Jews in New York. We didn’t need an Israeli state to be formed. Maybe it’s a sign not to get too comfortable in golus. Yes we have a president who has been more favorable to Jews than any in the history of the United States. But, we are a long way from moshiach. I hope it comes soon.
Orthodox Jewish Woman :The government of Israel has so many matters going contrary to Torah, that if they fixed them, maybe Moshiach would come immediately. We need safety and Hashem chooses exactly how that safety is delivered, in whatever measure that is. Of course the government of Israel cannot be relied to express itself in pure Torah terms.
I cannot say I elected the government in the country of the diaspora that I reside, even though I did vote, but it was not the party I desired, as it is a matter of choosing the lesser of several evils.
This is the President that moved the United States Embassy to Jerusalem. Netanyahu should be kissing Donald’s rear every day. The State of Israel should be blessing him 7 days a week.
Hopefully Trump will beIN jail before he pressures the goody-goody Israeli government, which can’t resist his pressure, to give up something that compromises their security.
“…….The government of Israel has so many matters going contrary to Torah, that if they fixed them, maybe Moshiach would come immediately…..”
You mean, even the frum parties in the Knesset??
Of course, the rest of us in the Diaspora are so perfect Al Pi Torah, that for us, Moshiach would have come long, long, ago… 2,000 years worth without the State of Israel and Moshiach hasn’t shown up ….. It’s the Zionists, stupid….
Soon, when you’ll be forced to run like a bat out of heck…. to the only land that’ll accept you…. the one which some of who despise and slander.. Or maybe to the new community of Rochester N.Y. , Bawl.timore & 5 Clowns…. Now those are communities that guarantee Moshiach’s booming arrival…
” Here in the desert you should learn and observe the Torah, ye renegades. Here’s the kedusha, among the scorpions.”……. Nachbi ben Vofsi & the other 9…
To ZionGate: All I meant by saying Jerusalem has not been “ours” is that we have not had control over Jerusalem in this world from the time of the destruction of the Second Temple to 1967, and, since 1967, the world has not recognized that it is ours. Hashem will return us to it, and it to us, when Hashem is ready.
huju
To ZionGate: All I meant by saying Jerusalem has not been “ours” is that we have not had control over Jerusalem in this world from the time of the destruction of the Second Temple to 1967, and, since 1967, the world has not recognized that it is ours. Hashem will return us to it, and it to us, when Hashem is ready.
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Where are you getting this hashkafa from?
Why don’t you think Hashem wants us to show our mesiras nefesh for Eretz Yisroel?
Most chilonim in Eretz Yisroel are definitely not worse than the Yidden who came up with Ezra by the bayis shayni. Most yidden didn’t even listen to Ezra Hanavi to return to Eretz Yisriel. Those who did return, most were intermarried and not only were mechalalai shabbos, they barely knew what shabbos is.
It’s a process.
Learn Tanach. Things were not so perfect then, even aside the avoda zara.
I wrote”The government of Israel has so many matters going contrary to Torah, that IF they fixed them, MAYBE Moshiach would come immediately. ”
And of course the Yidden in the Diaspora would be listening to and absorbing the news and getting “on board” if they were not so already.
Fear not for as the Arabs always do, they will balk at the offer. As Abba Eban so famously said “ the Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity”. They were offered many things in the past and always passed it up because of they’re insane hatred towards Israel.
avi732, That’s not an accurate statement. As of today these terrorists have their own “governments” and power and state right in the midst of Israel. It’s a ridiculous situation enabled by Jews themselves under pressure by their so-called friends.