One would think that even for the Chareidi extremists, there are limits, that is to say one would not be brazen enough to openly attack and ridicule Gedolei Yisrael. But R”L this was not so as over Shabbos, as printed materials were released attacking HaGaon HaRav Chaim Kanievsky Shlita.
The attacks follow physical and verbal assaults against MKs from Degel Hatorah, as both Moshe Gafne and Uri Maklev were assaulted and verbally abused. B’chasdei Hashem, no one sustained injuries but this in no way diminishes the seriousness of the behavior of those who feel they may act with impunity, even against Gedolei Yisrael Shlita.
In Bnei Brak over Shabbos, near the home of Moshe Gafne, pashkavilim were released against Maran Rav Kanievsky, and his grandson Rav Yaakov Kanievsky, as well as against Gafne of course.
The printed material accuses them of selling their neshomos and that Rav Kanievsky will sign off on anything if required. They dared to write R”L “Can one obtain Rav Chaim Kanievsky’s signature in favor of a missionary cult? Can one get Rav Chaim’s signature to vote Meretz? Is it possible to get Rav Chaim’s signature to visit an IDF base and distribute jelly donuts to soldiers? If you have influence of millions of dollars turn to the grandson, Yaakov Kanievsky and everything is open and possible!!”
(YWN Israel Desk – Jerusalem)
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ethics of the father, chpater 5:
The sword comes upon the world because of the delaying of justice and the perverting of justice; and because of those that teach Torah not according to the halakhah.
Those who slander Rav Kenievsky shlita are not doing any one any good. If they have a problem with him, go and speak to him respectfully and iron it out! but to make posters to attack him anonymously??? cowards and heretics in frum clothing!
They should all be punished for this behavior! This is so painful to hear this! Are these youths? Who is behind this?
א רחמנות אויף זיי
דער שטן איז אזוי שטארק
This was to be anticipated. Charedim have a zero tolerance level to anyone that does not agree with them. This can be two brothers each claiming to be heir apparent to the Admor throne, or any Gadol that does not share the same דעה as your Gadol. The writing has been on the wall for decades. This can be fond in Chasidic courts and Litvishe Yishivos. The בעלי מוסר movement was spot on. Learning Torah all day does not guarantee that the end product will be a Torah Jew.
This is a disgusting item. I do not see a name attached to this vile paper. Part of the work of a journalist is to uncover the source of this item. Reporting its existence is not enough. The fact is that it could have been printed by anyone. Which is to say anyone from Hareidi extremist to Iranian agents. Reporting only half a story is not good journalism.
Chutzpah yasgei.
דור שבן דוד בא,חוצפה יזגם
This is clear testimony that the position of the extremists is NOT Torah based, and deserves not an iota of support from anyone who holds the Torah dear. I have been disgusted from these lowlifes for several years, and I continue to wish them zero support and a refuah shelaimoh.
Chareidi?
IMHO they’ve lost their right to be called that!
If the YWN had to use that title for them, at least they could have put the word in parentheses/inverted commas -‘Chareidi’!
Kshomron,
Wow, I didn’t know chilonim/ da’atim have sinas chinam too! (Which it seems you are one)
Generalizing on all chareidim
Coffee addict, read your comment again. It appears you too are generalizing.
I am a chareidi and I know anyone who attacks chareidim because of these reshaim is a fool and an idiot these people have no rebbeim they’ll burn one day don’t worry.
Coffee addict, read your comment again. It appears you too are generalizing.
It seems like you don’t understand my post
Wow, I didn’t know chilonim/ da’atim have sinas chinam too! (Which it seems you are one)
I figured that you aren’t chareidi because you said the word chareidim
And then I saw that you were generalizing among all chareidim to which I said I didn’t know that there are chilonim or daatim that have sinas chinam too (it’s actually just referring to you)
publicizing this is ok?
It seems that the Lakewood web site”Hefkervelt”, which likes to give the appearance as an honest news site, is pushing the Peleg propaganda line. They keep announcing various gatherings in support of the Peleg stance and won’t publish comments critical of it.
I guess another site that tries to impress as honest news, but just pushes fake news.
why would you think their are limits to what one anonymous individual will do there always will be apikursim running around the bizayon is for your own agenda you 1) publicize it over the whole world and present it as if they represent someone 2) you act as if they were saying you could by r chaim as opposed to what they clearly said : that you could by his grandson
Why is ywn publicizing the motzei shem raah that people say abt one of the gedolei hador??? does it benefit anyone to read this??? why allow people to read this and create even the tinniest of doubts in even a single persons mind about these things being true r”L??
Chayav:
Yes, YWN is publicizing that we have a Korach in our generation. Unfortunately, there are low lifes within our community that believe the trash that is spewed by these Korachs. Sadly, none of us here have the power that Moshe Rabbenu had. But we can always resort to tefiloh. I suggest we have kavvanah (required for all of davening, not just this line) when we recite וכל הרשעה כרגע תאבד, that all the evil shall immediately be lost.
i think ywn standards are going down the tubes