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The matter of the kashrus of the Braekel has been the subject of recent debate among poskim. Most ashkenazi poskim, including HaGaon HaRav Moshe Yehuda Leib Landau Shlita and Eida Chareidis Ravaad HaGaon HaRav Moshe Sternbuch Shlita have ruled to prohibit it. HaGaon HaRav Nissim Karelitz Shlita has ruled that it is kosher.
Some Sephardi poskim are permitting the Braekel.
It appears that businesspersons are impatient and the Braekel is being advertised available in chareidi areas under the supervision of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Lubin. The advert does mention the Braekel was ruled as kosher by Rav Karelitz.
It is pointed out that many families, talmidim of the Chazon Ish ZT”L have the minhag of eating Braekel chicken despite the high price for they opine these chickens are the original kosher chickens that do not have the halachic questions that accompany the popular chickens eaten by Jews today.
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“original” – those chickens were from southeast Asia and were introduced in the Middle East in Biblical times — So the “original” kosher chicken was whatever Avraham Aveinu ate, and no one knows what they looked like (though probably a lot more like a “Braekel” than what we see in America today). All breeds one now encounters were created by farmers over the centuries. If one holds that all “breeds” need an individual mesorah, then most American chickens probably don’t qualify since they were developed over the last few centuries in America from various foreign breeds.
The Brakel is not the “Baladi” breed. The Advertisements are misleading.
The Brakel, Rav Wosner said is not permitted.
Unfortunately everything boils down to business investments and MONEY! People making investments and becoming millionaires on people’s expense, kashrus and halacha. Sadly even kashrus and hashgachos today are all one big business enterprises and competition. We don’t even know what we eating today and who to trust. we just want to eat and live and keep a mitsva of kashrus, and others are taking advantage of us to become rich and empires. DON’T TRUST ANYONE! HASHOCHAD YEAVER EINEI CHOCHOMIM! you can’t trust people when money and business is involved.
If you have Yiras shamayim, don’t trust anyone, live like your grandparents lived, they made their own food, raised their own chickens, made their own milk and cheese, made their own bread, their own wine and their own matza! if they had a shayla they went to the local Rav. who asked people to make mass production food for us, and in charge of what we eat??? No source for that anywhere in halacha, just all business.
This matter is becoming somewhat confusing to the average yid who finds it a bit bizzare that chicken merchants are engaged in marketing campaigns to convince a bunch of rabbonim that something is or is not kosher. If the only issue the mesora of the breed, than there is legitimate room for differences of opinion and everyone should follow the psak of their own rav or posek. Like most disputed matters of kashruth, if you look long enough, you will find some rav somewhere who will OK something that most rabbonim assur.
Pilpel, why are you motzei laaz on Kashrus like that? Does that make you feel better about yourself?
I have an important question which seems nobody is talking about.
Lets assume this chicken stays a Machlokes between Rabonnim, which is ok.
But: someone who adhears to the Rabonnim that forbid it, how will he ever be able to eat at someones house where it is used? According to the Machmir, the Pots and dishes of the Mekel are forbidden!
Can anyone clear me up on this?
Thanks
> yudel
Then complain to hamodia which reports explicitly that R. Wosner personally recognized the “braekel” as being closer to the chickens that he had known in his youth.
@Pilpel; @ElRushbo
Bad-mouthing all kashrus and all hechsherim is an nothing more than an excuse for laxity in kashrus.
@Pilpel – no one today makes ALL of their own food from vegetables and fruit that they grow on their own. Not that anyone ever did. Even in the small shtetlach, produce was bought from farmers at the “yerid”, wheat was milled by a miller, salt and pepper were bought. Yes, and occasionally kashrus violations were found and addressed.
The attitude of “Its all just a corrupt business” encourages too many people to disregard kashrus and just eat whatever they want to!
So sorry to hear the entire establishment hasn’t yet come to agreement yet.
Wait, what establishment?
Since when do we need to wait for official opinions? Last I checked we don’t have a navi, a kohen, or a shofet.
Stop bowing to these human beings who have absolutely no authority.
Eid echad ne’eman b’isurin is what my Torah says. If one person has a mesora that its kosher, it’s kosher. Lo ra’inu eino raya.
If you don’t have the guts to pasken correctly, don’t hold yourself out as a posek.
Messorah is our foundation.
Typical example, When the Yidden started living in Bovel, and in the early days of western Europe, they kept Shabbos according to their local time-zone, because they had no idea that they had a different time-zone than in Eretz Yisroel, (no telephones). But even today that we do know that we are not following the time-zone that Hashem keeps, we still continue because of Messoireh.