The Shas Party plans on preventing Welfare Minister Isaac Herzog from implementing a planned revolution that would allow “shameful” marriages to adopt children.
Currently, they cannot adopt unrelated children – but Herzog’s plan, first published in Haaretz Sunday, would give them the same adoption privileges as normal couples.
“This is a crazy idea,” Shas Chairman Eli Yishai told Haaretz. “It is part of a series of ideas by deluded parties whose sole goal is to blur the Jewish core of the Jewish people. This initiative contradicts the coalition agreements, and therefore, it will not be realized.”
(Haaretz Exclusive)
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This is a continuation of their attempts to legitimize these sodomites. They started with their shame parade and will not cease until they succeed in shoving their perverted ways down everyones throats.
This is so sick, especially when there must be many legitimately married childless couples desperate to adopt a child.
Outrageous! There are so many Bnei Torah who unfortunately are not able to have their own childdren and they are not able to adopt yet they are giving to people who are ba’alei toeva. Disgusting!
The strong push by the elite of virtually ALL Western countries to implement these policies is part a ongoing strategy of population control that is based on the ideas of Thomas Malthus, first presented over 150 years ago.
The Rockefeller dynasty (owners of Exxon oil and Chase bank) have been pushing this agenda since the 1960’s.
To reduce population, you have to first break-up the traditional family.
Without this basic understanding of what is going on behind the scenes, all these policies make no sense at all.
flatbush bubby forgive me if im ignorant but what do you mean that bnei torah are not able to adopt? I mean the halachic implications aside, whos not letting them? just curious. am i missing s/t major?
This report is absolutely revolting though btw. it just eggs them on
Ok what are shameful marriages? Intermarriagees?
Why do we set such high standards for heritics? There problems begain in 1948 officaly. Do you expect more from a dunkerd then to be drunk? Let them bang there heads against the the wall. I am proud to be able to live under a goyisher goverment then by self-hating “Jews”.
I used to have a neighbor who had to wait a long time to adopt. I also had a friend who was not even able to adopt a Jewish child but rather had too settle for a goy.
We have the same shameful adoptions where I live. Some of the judges don’t like it and try to make it difficult for the shameful couple, but in the end they have no choice but to permit it. I am always pleased when I hear of a judge who makes a token protest.
illini – A child needs a Father AND a Mother — despite what you may have heard from a local sodomite “sociologist”.
And regarding your third point, these perverts are IN YOUR FACE. They want everyone to know their sick behaviors. They have no shame, they do not hide it, quite the opposite — they advertise it and parade around it.
to #9 “it is so nice to hear about benefit of the doubt” I suspect that you only have these noble ideas when it comes to this nonsense. Please tell me if they are doing nothing wrong then why is someone calling for a law permtting Toeiva couples to adopt. if they go by that name then we do not owe them any favorable judgements. dont wear nose rings and then ask y people look at you funny .if you act different then that is how you will be looked at!i do not have to know what they do specifically , it is enough to know that they are willingly associating with such a group of people
The American Medical Association (AMA) until 1973 (when the sodomites pressured them to drop it), listed this illness as a “treatable mental disorder.”
to # 12. Does it really matter in hashkofo how far they go with this behavior. the tora calls it an abomination. if there was a sanhedrin, they would be executed. do you suppose that maybe the tora is too strict and we ought to be able to pick and choose? when will people get honest about what is expected of us as jews whether it is in midos hashkofo and deeds.
illini07, research the history why the AMA and the APA (American Psychological Association) deleted their references to this abnormality as a mental illness. It is was clearly bowing to their pressure. There was no new medical science in 1973 or before that substantially changed in regards to sodomy.
One of my close friends is an outstanding and brilliant psychologist [and musmach]. He once told me that he totally cured a significant number of Orthodox young men who engage in toeiva in his long career, and proved to himself what he always thought: that this is a curable sickness – but cannot announce it publicly to the psychologists of our time – for obvious reasons.
I wonder if it might not be a great idea to have all the frum psychologists get together in a convention and – if they agree – to announce to the world their findings.
Frumnormalyid
If these ‘to’eivos want children,let them marry an opposite sexual partner,an ezer k’negdo,and have them the normal way.Why let these innocent lonely youngsters have to be exposed to such filthy immoral adults? We Jews are instructed by our Holy Torah how to raise our families. These poor orphans have suffered enough without the need to be made ‘different’. Imagine the embarrassment they will have in school! The classmates will taunt and tease them. Other parents will not allow their children to play or study with them. and-Possibly some of these toevos are up to other things to do with these children,the ‘M’ word.The kids will not grow up the way society needs them to. This will further destroy the “Israeli”society.If the Jewish state is sanctioning un-Jewish behavior, why should the goyish people respect our right to keep our Jewish laws?
ravizzy, Like I said above, there is nothing news that this is a treatable mental disorder. The AMA as well as the APA both listed this as such. Secular non-religious psychologist have long, and successfully in many cases, treated these patients and cured them of this sickness.
The only reason the AMA and APA dropped reference to this illness as a mental disorder was due to the strong-armed lobbying of the “rights” groups.
#16 that is MY POINT. IF they dont do it, y do thet associate with it in any way shape or form . when some one for instance supports the parade then does it matter that they do not do this kind of thing. As president bush once said “you are either with us or against us” you cannot have it both ways.so stop trying to be diplomatic . if you are a ben torah then this type of behavior or anything that remotely related must be abhorred unconditionally.
if a married couple can not have children i can understand that they’d like to adopt. But – here I’m talking to these “shameful couples”- if you didn’t even try getting married like normal people, what do you need kids for?? it doesn’t even make sense. don’t you want children of your own? Be normal, get married, & have kids!!!
to#21 Rabbi Feinstein zal said that the reason the torah callit toeva is beacuse it is not normal it is a learned behavior. would you like to argue with the tora?
#7. don’t feel so smug abt yourself about being under a goyishe govt. although I agree that it’s horrible when jews are self-hating, the goy doesn’t like you any more!!! halacha…that eisav hates yaakov, no matter what! maybe in democratic govts they cover up better, but the hatred is still there.
#21 – illini
Quote your sources. Don’t use empty terms like ‘all objective and empirical data’ which probably means nothing at all.
It’s so predictable. The second YW posts a story with “Toiaivim” I know I can expect to see an illini07 comment in their defense.
I know you have a hard time accepting the Torah’s view on Mishkivai Zuchur, but enough already. Toirah observance is not a selective life. You either accept the Toirah with ALL it’s content and strive to be as complete a Yid as possible, or you deny it chas v’shulum.
The matter is simple. Torah law says these couples are immoral. Do we allow immoral couples to adopt innocent Jewish children?
Point. The original DSM did list toeiva as a mental disease. However the American Psychological Association does have many members who live a lifestyle of engagement in toeiva, and it became politically correct to take it out. I think it came out in the DSM II or the DSMIII. Today’s version is the DSM-IV-R. But, just because a behavior has been removed, does not mean it is “normal.” It was just politically too hot an issue to keep it in.
The people who practice the lifestyle of engaging in those behaviors wish to sell everyone on the idea that is it not a voluntary behavior, but something in their physical makeup. Most realize this is ridiculous, but can’t come out in public and say a word, or they will be ostracized from the world of the APA.
But whether it is harmful to the kids psychologically or not, it NOT the issue.
It is not psychologically harmful to have a Jewish Child adopted and raised by a gentile. But all Jews would be up in arms screaming about that.
Why? Same thing. In one home they are learning a lifestyle not in accordance with the Torah, and in the other they are learning a lifestyle not in accordance with the Torah.
Yes, I know, it is very PC now to talk about how much we “tolerate” those people, but are we be governed by Political Correctness, or by Hashem?
illini, if there is no Mishkav Zachor, whats the issue? Most of these people still insist on advertising their disorder and making sure everyone knows their “lifestyle”.
They still shouldn’t adapt, as a child needs a father and mother to develop a health life. Thats pure common sense, despite what the Mishkav Zachor industry would like to lead you to believe.
So the SHAS MK’s do vote against some issues, wow! thought they fell asleep counting the $$$ coming to the mosdos.
Sorry folks….
The comments being submitted are getting lower and lower and lower and lower and lower…….
CLOSED. 🙂