Maran HaGaon HaRav Aaron Yehuda Leib Shteinman Shlita made a shiva visit to HaGaon HaRav Shalom Cohen Shlita, who is in aveilus for his sister, Rebitzen Shulamit Hemed A”H. Some feel the recent escalation in tensions between Shas and Degel Hatorah surrounding Eli Yishai’s visit to the Gadol Hador prompted the Rosh Yeshiva to make the trip to Yerushalayim.
Despite clarifications and explanations from Degel Hatorah officials, many Shas supporters still believe that the Rosh Yeshiva’s bracha is what gave Yishai the impetus to break from Shas and launch his own party.
During their exchange of words during the shiva visit, Rav Cohen shifted to the topic of Eli Yishai. He told the Rosh Yeshiva that Yishai offended all of the rabbonim of the party’s Moetzas Gedolei Yisrael, adding “He went and turned the rabbonim into trash”. Rav Steinman remained silent and listened, then offering words of achdus.
(YWN – Israel Desk, Jerusalem)
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Please do not blame others for your internal problems!
Gadolhadorah
First of all about your username. You can be a Gadolhador or a Gedolahador, but dorah doesn’t exist, the word dor is invariable.
Next, why did Eli Yishai break away from Shas? He didn’t like Deri, so what? He wanted to be number one, what for?
Shame Rabbi Cohen didn’t use the opportunity to talk about the nifteres. Isn’t that what usually happens at a shiva?
Cannot they stop this insanity. We heard the words of Maran saying what he really thought about Deri. There was no confusion, no room for error, no misunderstanding. His words were explicit. Maran clearly said that Deri was not to be trusted and was unworthy of any leadership role in Shas. Sadly, the Rav was niftar a year ago and no amount of “spin” by his children and these other rabbonim can change it.
Time to move on. It is the Yosef children and Deri who are trashing Maran’s memory, not Yishai.
rabbi cohen says that kippa sruga is bigimatria amalek , referred to yeshiva kisai rachamim as bays hakisay and then claims that Yishai is trashing rabonim? Perhaps we need to see a little bit of responsible leadership from Shas.
they just dont stop speaking vulgarities, toilet, trash
When one goes to menachem avel, it is to talk about the niftar /nifteres. When Rav Yaakov Yosef, zt”l was niftar and PM Netanyahu came to be menachem avel, there was a situation in the Knesset being discussed in drafting yeshiva students into the IDF. At the shiva, Rav Ovadia, ztk”l through all his sadness broke down and cried out for the yeshiva students not to be drafted. Everyone was surprised and Rav Ovadia explained that it was even more important than being sad about the loss of his beloved son Yaakov, zt”l that he wanted to impress upon Netanyahu not to draft yeshiva students. The Rav didn’t get into the different types of yeshiva students. [[There are two types of yeshiva students (a) one who is in shiur and learns all day, takes notes and there is (b) one who goes and sits in yeshiva like a log and produces nothing except heating his seat.]]
Eli Yishai couldn’t in good conscious approach Rav Shalom Cohen in a civil manner as Rav Cohen was too bent on supporting Aryeh Deri even with the leaks that Deri was a scoundrel, sell out of the Oslo fiasco and also that there was a video showing the Rav screaming at Deri for not following all of his directives. Eli Yishai did right by approaching Maran HaGaon HaRav Aaron Yehuda Leib Shteinman Shlita as Daas Torah as he wanted to things as he had always done them according to the dictates of Torah unlike where he had been before and people were doing things without the knowledge and consent of Chacham Ovadia, ztk”l.
As far as using the term “trashing” Rabbanim, it was a very harsh statement to be made especially at a shiva when things about the nifteres should be discussed. The rabbanim in question are all adults and all supposedly informed but not versed in politics but Roshei Yeshivot and that is where they belong in the yeshiva not dirtying their hands in politics. Certain members of the Yosef family that live in the Har Nof neighborhood who are neighbors of Deri all put on a disgraceful show at Maran’s kever when they fully knew all the dirt that had been flushed out was true. It was a true bizayon.
Why is that?
Eli Yishai has asked a “shaylas chochom” and has Rav Mazuz as his mentor and Rav. When there is difference of opinion there has to be a “Respectful Conflict” not harsh, angry, uncontrollable rhetoric.
I’ve seen others comment similarly – but it seems to no avail – what purpose do you serve by printing all these inflammatory articles? Really – it is so distasteful – and can’t really do much for Klal Yisroel. So sad to see YWN and others shedding their editorial finekeit and spreading this type of tabloid journalism.
Rav Shteinemen acted properly. To answer stupidity is stupid.
The Rabbanim of Shas don’t need some one to make them into idiots; they can do it themselves.
Rav Ovadia spoke knowingly on video. He expressed his opinion truthfully.
Don’t like truth? Lump it.
Comments by garlic are true flavor of what shas rabbis are all about.
The emes hurts