Pictures of zaka members standing around do absolutely nothing. Show real pix of the assembly.
Why are there protest signs? I thought it was purely an atzeres tefilah?
I agree to Mark, most pictures are of the emergency personal, why do we idolize them so much, it’s such a childish/macherish mentality .
We want to see pics of the crowd and speakers.
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b”h Zaka Members are standing around doing nothing !! their role at this even is to look after lost children and reunite them with their parents !!
RE MY LAST COMMENT – Should say EVENT .
who would believe that in the land of Jews there should be a fear of assimilation and anti-religious coercion? when Moshiach comes even Israel will not be able to claim reward for having helped the Jewish People. the Israelis will also run out of the sukkah when it gets too hot!
The photos show that despite the large, emotionally driven crowd- there is virtually no unruly behavior- looks like a peaceful protest, executed with derech eretz- which is a big kiddush hashem. Hopefully everyone’s prayers are answered quickly. Look for the good in everything and everyone and hashem will look for the good in us.
ajy i guess you thought wrong. and what is the problem with protest signs it states our position on the draft.
Relax boys they know exactly what is happening and they don’t need your help
it was an atzeras tefila but since the secular media is going to show up to tske pics you can get your message across also by bringing signs
#2 it was the calmest most kiddush hashem thing you’ve ever seen. The signs are the most peaceful way of relaying a message here. They weren’t hateful. They were what it is. And to Mark: al shlosha devarim haolam omeid. these hatzala guys were there before and after; and there quite a few mikrim that they were needed.
so now we have it – a line drawn in the sand – chareidim on 1 side, yesh atid and bayit yehudi on the other. no one has yet to show any flexibility at all. whats next, civil war? How about a simple proposal – assuming that the army really wants the Chareidim and that all of the Chareidim only want to learn – neither of which I believe is totally true – the army might want some Chareidim and some Chareidim might not want to sit in Yeshiva full time – then why not adopt the following. Any Chareidi or Dati Leumi for that matter who only wants to learn would be required to do so for 7 years, then can receive a ptur from the army at which time they can continue learning or go to work. Other Chareidim or DL who do no want to commit to full time learning can opt for Hesder or Nachal Chareidi. This idea will allow those who want to sit and learn to do so while all others can either do 16 months army out of a 5 year program or a 3 year service. The army would then have to guarantee an environment that is appropriate for the frum – no women, superior hechsherim etc. And of course the army should have the power to verify that those who say they are learning are actually doing so. I have to use a time card at work when I come and leave work and the same device could be put into the Yeshivas.
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#5 these gezeiros have nothing to do with the army service. They dont need more soldiers. They “wanna integrate chareidim in the workplace” which basically means; want chareidim to change their lifestyle. In addition, I say: there are enough chareidim that are looking to work and can’t find work cus their chareidi. So if netanyahu and bennet wanna really integrate them then why don’t they hire a chareidi to drive them around. do their tax returns. do work in the knesset???????????? ahhhhh, good question. cus this has nothing to do neither with army nor with “integration” it has to do with a non religious govt that is only looking for ways to have their old fashioned brothers leave or change their old ways…… and that is what the atzeres was about. Nachal chareidi soldiers also complain how they sit around and do nothing in the army and how the army doesn’t consider their frumkeit at all…. here you go. got it?
The army is today the lowest of the low. Even thirty per cent of the seculars refuse army service. No jew should join.
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Pictures of zaka members standing around do absolutely nothing. Show real pix of the assembly.
Why are there protest signs? I thought it was purely an atzeres tefilah?
I agree to Mark, most pictures are of the emergency personal, why do we idolize them so much, it’s such a childish/macherish mentality .
We want to see pics of the crowd and speakers.
reply to comment number 1 –
b”h Zaka Members are standing around doing nothing !! their role at this even is to look after lost children and reunite them with their parents !!
RE MY LAST COMMENT – Should say EVENT .
who would believe that in the land of Jews there should be a fear of assimilation and anti-religious coercion? when Moshiach comes even Israel will not be able to claim reward for having helped the Jewish People. the Israelis will also run out of the sukkah when it gets too hot!
The photos show that despite the large, emotionally driven crowd- there is virtually no unruly behavior- looks like a peaceful protest, executed with derech eretz- which is a big kiddush hashem. Hopefully everyone’s prayers are answered quickly. Look for the good in everything and everyone and hashem will look for the good in us.
ajy i guess you thought wrong. and what is the problem with protest signs it states our position on the draft.
Relax boys they know exactly what is happening and they don’t need your help
it was an atzeras tefila but since the secular media is going to show up to tske pics you can get your message across also by bringing signs
#2 it was the calmest most kiddush hashem thing you’ve ever seen. The signs are the most peaceful way of relaying a message here. They weren’t hateful. They were what it is. And to Mark: al shlosha devarim haolam omeid. these hatzala guys were there before and after; and there quite a few mikrim that they were needed.
so now we have it – a line drawn in the sand – chareidim on 1 side, yesh atid and bayit yehudi on the other. no one has yet to show any flexibility at all. whats next, civil war? How about a simple proposal – assuming that the army really wants the Chareidim and that all of the Chareidim only want to learn – neither of which I believe is totally true – the army might want some Chareidim and some Chareidim might not want to sit in Yeshiva full time – then why not adopt the following. Any Chareidi or Dati Leumi for that matter who only wants to learn would be required to do so for 7 years, then can receive a ptur from the army at which time they can continue learning or go to work. Other Chareidim or DL who do no want to commit to full time learning can opt for Hesder or Nachal Chareidi. This idea will allow those who want to sit and learn to do so while all others can either do 16 months army out of a 5 year program or a 3 year service. The army would then have to guarantee an environment that is appropriate for the frum – no women, superior hechsherim etc. And of course the army should have the power to verify that those who say they are learning are actually doing so. I have to use a time card at work when I come and leave work and the same device could be put into the Yeshivas.
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#5 these gezeiros have nothing to do with the army service. They dont need more soldiers. They “wanna integrate chareidim in the workplace” which basically means; want chareidim to change their lifestyle. In addition, I say: there are enough chareidim that are looking to work and can’t find work cus their chareidi. So if netanyahu and bennet wanna really integrate them then why don’t they hire a chareidi to drive them around. do their tax returns. do work in the knesset???????????? ahhhhh, good question. cus this has nothing to do neither with army nor with “integration” it has to do with a non religious govt that is only looking for ways to have their old fashioned brothers leave or change their old ways…… and that is what the atzeres was about. Nachal chareidi soldiers also complain how they sit around and do nothing in the army and how the army doesn’t consider their frumkeit at all…. here you go. got it?
The army is today the lowest of the low. Even thirty per cent of the seculars refuse army service. No jew should join.