Skver has thrown its support behind Democrat Kathy Hochul for governor, joining Satmar’s Aronim faction in backing the incumbent who has signaled that she will not do anything to oppose the New York Board of Regents’ attacks against yeshivas.
Skver and Satmar are now the only two voting blocs within the broader Orthodox Jewish community in New York who have spurned their brethren in endorsing Republican Lee Zeldin and his pledge to support Orthodox Jews and yeshivas and protect their way of life.
Skver also endorsed Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney, a Democrat who is locked in a tight race with Assemblyman Mike Lawler.
Despite the endorsements of Hochul and Maloney, many Satmar Aronim and Skverers are expected to vote for the Republicans, with their leadership’s endorsements having little effect on their vote in the crime-ridden and anti-yeshiva climate of New York.
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Once again, these “groups” follow the path to government money, not principals!!
How many millions of dollars did she promise them in exchange for their endorsement
Wow
Not surprising at all, if he can burn someone then……of course we’re not shocked.
I have so absolutely no more respect whatsoever for skver rebbe nor for aharon teitelbaum
למען תינוקות של בית רבן לא אשקוט
Sleepy Joe must have promised a lot to the Skverer Rebbe when they spoke and the same to Satmar, without a conversation made public. Chinuch has a value but nothing beats hard cash for the Rebbe and the Mosdos, except maybe a direct line to the President next time one of the Rebbe’s men gets caught doing something naughty.
remember nobody is allowed to question daas Torah and their cheshbonos, I hope there will not be any comments against this.
What happened to the headline …”SORRY, JOE: Skver and Vizhnitz Officials Attend GOP Fundraiser Just a Day After Biden Begs for Their Endorsement ” of Oct 27,2022 ??? I knew it was too good to be true ….Its all about the Benjamins
They’re saying that they’ve been “good to us in the past”, and “she never told us no”, so we must come through for them, if our block is to be worth anything in the future.
This is always their thinking. One problem: In the past your demands should’ve been about safety, chinuch independence, morality etc. If you call her performance “being good” – something’s wrong. They should’ve been calling and asking her to speak up against the legislative effort to invade our education, safety etc. They obviously didn’t if they say she “never said ‘no'”…
need NEGEL water out there ? everybody tok Sleeping pills ?
At least the gabbai closest to the Rebbe is wearing his disposable mask properly, unlike the guy behind him who is not even covering his mouth. Vinishmartem. We must make sure we don’t cause aiva.
2 points-
1. carefully read the paragraph on the right of the poster & what it says between the lines.
2.in the frum world today there are sarei meos , sarei alafim & then there is the handful of major leaguers meaning rabonnim that are ceo’s of a massive empire’s. just one small piece of the puzzle as an example do u know that under reb aron there are 36 high schools just for boys. do u realize that skevere rebbe is a “rebbe” to the rebbes- each one has a huge cabinet legal, financial,( annual budgets in the 100′ of millions when you calculate it all .., ruchnius , HR dept – with thousands of employees each from the mikva to the kimpeturin heim from shechita in nebraska to construction in canada and a million things in between
i’m voting for zeldin but they have a cheshbon
its UNBELIAVABLE Hochul is an antisemith – for not Attacking NY Times…. But the YIDEN here are OK with ATTACKING Satmar And skver with nasty comments ant Disgusting Headlines…!!
@lakewoodbt “remember nobody is allowed to question daas Torah and their cheshbonos”
Don’t know what’s Daas Torah and what’s not, but if learning Torah leads to this kind of Daas Torah, I will definitely be stopping to learn. This kind of Daas is called, Daas B’haima
Well of course I didn’t mean this literally, was just pointing out how pathetic that someone can call this Daas Torah.
Skver is the lowest of the low. they dont care about anything and nobody and the rabbi didnt do anything we should look up to him, disgusting how low these people get for $
moshe38 during WWII people also questioned Daas Torah with tragic consequences, like I said we are not allowed to question daas Torah EVER.
They do what is good for them. There is no achdus. They live upstate so crime is not an issue. Thru could care a less about people living in Brooklyn. Shame on them.
what dass torah ???? like if they have anything with the torah
burning people and doing all these things that dont even have to do with judaism
my initial knee jerk reaction as mostly everyone else here was to be majorly disappointed with satmar and skvere
but on the other side of the coin
their are some who can argue a few points in favor of this move the main reason being is lets say hochul wins
1)the jewish orthodox community has put itself into a corner without any recourse and would be rough riding
thruout her term by having some in the community supporting we will have a voice or an i owe you if you will thru skvere and satmar
2)another reason may be is perhaps these mosdos are on the hook and beholden to the DEMS and thru some backroom maneuvers and agreements were told toe the line or else …
3)which is due money either having received in the past or promised in the future which everyone here is taking issue with and rightfully so
to vent our disagreement is ok but realize we all here are theorizing and arent privy to the reasons behind the decision
My two cents here. I’ve learned that election endorsements are not about values. It’s about who will be better for the klal. The biggest danger is backing the loser. I think the organizations here took a big gamble by going so head in for zeldin with the race this close. At least hochul won’t be able to say all the Jews voted against me
lakewoodbt
This is not daas Torah its about Daas pocketbook and selling out your brothers to satisfy your own interests. One thing I do know I strongly sympathized with the chasidiishe schools. I wrote letters, wrote comments on these websites (for whatever its worth.) Satmar and now Skver took away any enthusiasm I had for this cause. All I can add is the famous quote from Pogo we have met the enemy and he is us.
מהרסיך ומחריביך ממך יצאו The three Jewish leaders that are supporting Hochul are Naftoli Monster; Aron Teitelbaum, and Dovid Twersky.
It is beautiful to see that the Admorim of Satmar and Skvere have not bought into the corrupted hashkafah of right wing populism that is rampant among so many in the frum world .
We are not MAGA Trumpers. We are not Protestant Christians we are yidden with Torah true hashkafah and values
Zeldin is a bo’el aramis with no established meaningful connections to the frum community. He is a proven liar as an election denier. The promises that a liar makes on a campaign trail are meaningless. He chose a proud and open toevahnik as his running mate..
Boruch Hashem Skvere and Satmar are not blinded by the ga’as and have the stregnth to stand against the rabble of the masses that are worked up by “frum” media and right wing agitators.
Their chest bin does not include the good of the klal
Moshe38: If you say that you will Stop learning Torah because you do NOT agree with Das Torah , you probably never in your Adult life opened a Sefer or Gemara.
I voted for Zeldin in early voting because i havent seen Das Torah till today but i still trust my Rebbe and i daven to Hashem whoever comes in should lead the State of New York with respect and care for the Orthodox community and all NY citizens….
So many of these comments are so disturbing. You can agree or disagree but the bismirching of gedolim who disagree with you (gasp) is so disgusting. Why oh why does Yeshiva World want to be a platform for these comments. You can shut down comments for certain articles if you want.
very shallow minded comments, here, how can we judge if we don’t know the full story? I support Zeldin of course as a matter of fact, my house got robbed the other day in Brooklyn and the detectives told me that as long as we have our current governor in there, they can’t really do anything about people they couch, and they will be letting them right back out into the streets. But I just know they have a cheshbon here , so I will not be spewing my opinion, as if I know better than these rabbis . I will just gladly follow my spiritual leaders.
The Skvarer Rebbe shlita is one of the most holy people I’ve ever met, full of Ruach HaKodesh. One may disagree with him, but chalila to speak unkindly about him.
@Rebyossel you haven’t read my entire comment, chas V’shalom did I mean this as I write the next line…
“ Well of course I didn’t mean this literally, was just pointing out how pathetic that someone can call this Daas Torah.”
No Achdus similar to what happened before Holocaust and in Eretz Yisroel. We’ll never succeed anywhere unfortunately.
Oh give me a break, all mosdos just care about their own pockets, just look at all the fights in Israel between degel hatorah and gimel.. it’s all about money, Bmg let the baseball field be built cuz they got free land from the township. When your running a big mosed and ur promised lots of money, you need to think of taking care of your ppl first. Put urself in their shoes. If u knew that Hochel would give ur family $100,000 if you voted for her, ud find every heter to justify to vote for her. Don’t kid urself
I know one can justify any position (maintain a relationship with hochul in case she wins, they must take care of their mosdos [they were promised a lot of money], possibly even promised things for the klal blah blah blah), but there’s a simple idea that no one is disucussing; when k’vod Shamayaim is involved nothing else matters! The Democrats have aligned themselves with every position that’s against the RBS”O – pro abortion (pharoh), pro same gender marriage (dor hamabul), anti yeshivos, anti morality – pro criminal (sdom), climate change believers (dor haflaga). They’re platform is being anti G-d; every word is false. How can someone who officially is representing the RBS”O and the Torah, justify endorsing leftist – Democrat, anti G-d, anti morality, (and for that matter anti USA, anti common sense, anti security, anti financial security) anti Yeshivos etc. candidates for a “nezid adashim”? The answer is THEY DON’T REPRESENT THE RBS”O, NOR DO THEY REPRESENT THE TORAH! THEY REPRESENT THEIR OWN INTERESTS IN THEIR NARROW PERSPECTIVE! Destroying the fabric of society, no matter what they were promised, will eventually destroy them.
Skver is so concerned that no “lite chasidim” live near them, as they’re afraid of outside influences, that they actually buy houses in the surrounding areas and rent them to mexicans so that yidden shouldn’t move in. I’m not discussing the perversion in their actions; I’m illustrating that they have no deep understanding of the world they live in. They think in such micro terms. All they’re bringing upon themselves is the scorn and disgust of frum people all around. Jewish people will purchase in Rockland County wherever they can afford to. The premise that if their shtetl is protected then they’ll be okay, is something only a sheltered fool can buy into. The stupidity and evil of their actions as a group is astounding, never mind the naiveite. Instead of strengthening their chinuch they think they can shut the rest of the world out. They believe if they get money from the gov’t even if the rest of the state is teaching five year olds about a family with two fathers, they’ll be safe. How do you explain to people who pretend to be so frum (two sides of the street for men and women), that they’re going to burn for being mechalel Shem Shamayim b’rabim? Again, this is a group that believes one may burn a family alive for not davening in the rebbe’s minyan. I guess, they really don’t have anything to do with the RBS”O. It’s a different religion, with a lot of similarities to yiddishkeit. Oh well, my mistake.
Money money money
They have sold out the community for decades in the name of education and section 8 but the past few years we saw that the religious community got the brunt of anti Semetisim
Fist, punches , knife
And still these men in masks are putting out the old strategy of sleeping with enemy.
I URGE ALL SATMER & SKVER TO VOTE SHELDON.
Anti semetisim is bad for everyone
ACCEPT for the people seated at Tish head table being served with silverware while the kids fight for the crumbs.
seichsl yashar –
The “pro criminal” part is the GOP that opposes all types of background checks and common sense gun regulation.
The GOP is the “anti Jewish religion” party as they push for prayer in public school that will result in Jewish kids praying to Yoshke.
The GOP is the party that takes decisions of abortion out of the hands of rabbonim guided by Torah and puts in the hands of government officials guided by Christian values.
The GOP is the party of perversion as they rip children from the arms of their parents at the border. They use human beings as props for political gain.
The GOP is the party that is a threat to American society with their election deniers who are destroying democracy.
The GOP is the party whose leaders can’t condemn antisemities like YE and David Duke.
The heiliga Rebbes of skvere and Satmar are not fooled by the lies and distortions of Hannitty and Tucker Carlson. Their daas Torah let’s then see the truth. The GOP is not the party of moral values. We must never be corrupted by MAGAism.
Democratis are the party of family values. Democrats support enhanced child tax credit, maternity leave, child healthcare programs which all help families with large numbers of children.
Democrats are the party that enables a surge of limud hatorah as they support all types of economic assistance programs that help yungerleit and klei kodesh without this assistance many of these pillars of Torah would be unable to make ends meet.
For all this above comparing:
Boel Aramis vs Mishkav Zachor ..candidates,
let me remind you:
1. The. former is deRabanan (knaim pogim), the latter is Deoraysa (Kares)
2. The former obviously does not apply to gentiles, the latter violates the 7 Noahide laws and is a Dem. Party core value that contravenes our Torah
3. they are two separate offices running, so the comparison doesn’t even apply between candidates.
4. One Candidate has at the very least a Pintele Yid neshama who openly expressed support and making it a major role in his platform. The other has clearly not.
Why would any Jewish community leader make make such a public Chillul Sheim Shomayim and forever lose the trust of Rov Klal Yisrael is beyond me.
por ……….
really the most holy people
about skver i know more then you
what did he teach his chassidim ?
the most issues. divorces. otd. etc is by skver …. even more then satmar
give me a break
if he is so holy why doesnt he do anything with his holiness ?
crazykanoiy Lol……
you talk so much nonsense …..
what did the dems do ? any good ?
…cont.
5. I still believe that aside from promised carrots, these rabbes are holy people and perhaps they saw Ruach HaKodesh or spiritual Nitzotzos in these leftist candidates that is unbeknown to us. Nevertheless, our Torah says both:
והייתם נקיים מה’ ומישראל
Hence it is our duty to cry foul on this public desecration of Hashem’s Torah values.
again i reiterate it is asur to question Daas Torah, therefore no one can say why this why that. we know it says if rabbanim say black is white we must assume black is white. That is what daas Torah is about
Satmar and Skver are right. They have my support. Hochul has my support. Don’t be selfish. If you do the math and see the forest from the trees, you’d realize Hochul ultimately better serves the interest of Yisroel. Whoever pushes the vax to the max has my support, tho I personally pass on the vax.
בִּקְּשׁוּ לְהַרְבּוֹת כְּבוֹדָן וְרָצוּ לְמַעֵט כְּבוֹד הַמָּקוֹם, עַכְשָׁיו כְּבוֹד מָקוֹם בִּמְקוֹמוֹ, וּמִיעֵט כְּבוֹדָם
(Yoma 38a, Shekalim 5:1)
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Has anyhbody thought that perhaps this is just a ploy to keep Hochul satisfied. Since most of the chassidim will vote for Zedlin anyway.
Opinions should not include the desecration of any Rabbanim in any way. It is terribly dangerous in many ways.
Thats great, if by some chance Maloney gets reelected, he will be in minority and can’t even deliver a box of tissues.
“Remember nobody is allowed to question daas Torah and their cheshbonos, I hope there will not be any comments against this…”
Guess what….Intelligent yidden DO question the guidance of their rabbonim and increasingly may vote for other candidates. As so many of the above comments illustrate, their is a perception that block voting by various chassidus is simply a game of “follow the money”. Candidate positions on economic growth, job-creation, energy and environmental policy, public health, taxation, etc. are ALL relevant issues for yidden along with educational guidelines, abortion restrictions and the other “culture war” issues that have increasingly dominated the political dialogue.
@lakewoodbt
There’s Litvish Daas Torah and Chassidish Daas Torah. Litvish Daas Tora Rosh Hayeshivos have clealy spoken on the urgency for Zeldin and pikuach nefesh of current incumbents. I heard Chassidishe Torah
@lakewoodbt
There’s Litvish Daas Torah and Chassidish Daas Torah. Litvish Daas Tora Rosh Hayeshivos have clealy spoken on the urgency for Zeldin and pikuach nefesh of current incumbents. I heard Chassidishe Torah has do with Gematrios & Numbers. 😉