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1. I have no question in my mind that this is a great Tefilah, however I am pretty sure if we dont do our due diligence this tefilah is nothing but a waste.

   People are looking for Segulas & Tefilahs but dont even think for one moment that they
   have to do their part & are not putting in any effort what so ever in the raising of their children.

   Of course than we have these parents who think the Schools are responsible as they pay big bucks in tuition.

   than we have those parents who are to busy making money in order to enjoy a better life, Vacations, Multiple Holmes & most important lavish weddings & bar Mitzvahs & are never home, to spend time or look around what thier children are doing.

   Let me assure you all, that the effort you put into your children are more important than any tefilah you could imagine, after your efforts you still need Seyata Dismaya & that is where tefilos come into play & by the way Tefilos are acceptable & just as importent all yr. round.

   When i grew up i dont ever remember saying or even seeing this Tefilah, however now we have a modern & very sophisticated world & we dont need effort any more, we only need tefilohs & the rest is going to happen on its own.

   Good luck to all of you & lots of Nachas

2. I agree that segulos are misunderstood and misused. But davening is NOT a segula. It is the cornerstone. Of course we have to match deeds to words by making efforts that show the sincerity of our words. But let’s not downplay the efficacy of tefillah, including tefillos composed after the Anshei Knesses Ha’gedola.

3. Dear Levtov32, The Steipler was known to say (and it is printed many places in his name) that raising good children is 50% Sholom Bayis and 50% Tefilah!!

4. Mesivta Gedulas Mordechai considerately sent out a mailing of the Tefila that arrived on time this past weekeend. Those lucky enough to get it are encouraged to show the Mesivta their Hakoras Hatov.

5. Just pay attention to the holy words and their meaning.

   This tefillah is in line with the deeper meaning of “zochreinu l’chayim…lema’ancha Elokim – chayim”. We ask Hashem for life because we live for Hashem (to do His Ratzon).

   May Hashhem listen to our tefillos.

   Mihr zollen krigen vos mihr darfen, nisht vos mihr villen.

6. Of course we need to use our common sense in raising children. However, if we think we can do it our own then we are greatly mistaken. We need Siyata Dishmaya for everything we do. Even if one is a great tzadik living among tzadikim, he needs Siyata Dishmaya in raising children. One must daven to Hashem for everything we need, be it bread and milk, parnasa, etc., otherwise we are like animals who receive what they need without asking.

   The following is an excerpt from an article I wrote last year:

   The words of the Shelah hakodosh are:

   “There is an obligation to daven and ask from Hashem every need we have, at any time, because it all comes from Him. People should be especially careful to daven for their children to be “kosher” forever. My heart tells me that an auspicious time for this is Erev Rosh Chodesh of Sivan, because that is the month we received the Torah and we are called “children of Hashem our G-d. It is worthy for man and wife to fast and do teshuva.” (It is actually Yom Kippur Koton. Some daven a special Mincha with slichos, and some also fast a whole or half day and read Vayichal from a Sefer Torah, like on a Taanis Tzibur.)

   The tefila the Shlah lists was written by Reb Shabsei Sofer of Premishla, a talmid of the Levush.

   The Shlah says one should also have in mind their children by Birchas HaTorah (v’nihiye anachnu v’tzetzoeinu), Ahava Rabbah (v’sein bilibeinu) and Uva Litzion (l’maan lo nega lorik v’lo neled l’beholo)

   Tanna Devei Eliyahu says one should constantly ask for mercy from Hashem that his children shouldn’t sin.

   Sefer Chasidim says one should daven for their children and grandchildren.

   Rabbeinu Yonah in Iggeres HaTeshuva says a woman should daven for her children, night, morning and afternoon, that they should fear Hashem and be successful in Torah. He says she should also do this while giving tzedaka and light Shabbos candles.

   Many of the great tzadikim (from all segments, Sephardim, Ashkenazim, Litvish, Chassidish) said that all of the success of their children came about because they constantly davened and cried to Hashem for that their children should go in the proper derech.

   There are many segulas for good children; here are a few more:

   It is brought down in many places that tznius is a great segula for good children. The Mishna Berura quotes the Gemara in Yoma that says a very modest woman name Kimchis, merited having many sons who became Kohanim Gedolim because of her great modesty.

   Making sure that people who serve Hashem have parnasa is a segula that one’s children won’t be swayed to bad influences. (Sefer Hamidos)

   R’ Yissachor Dov of Belz told someone whose son was straying a bit from the ways of his father, to bring guests into his house.

   Serving meat at a Bris is a segula for the child to grow up properly. (Divrei Yechezkel)

   I’ve heard in the name of tzadikim that washing a child’s hands negel vaser, before the age of 3, even though not halachically required, is a segula for the child’s yiras shomayim.

7. Serving meat at a Bris is a segula for the child to grow up properly. (Divrei Yechezkel)

   This one sounds a little odd & if i dont beleive in it, It will not make me on Apikoras & i am not so sure he said it at all & yes i dont beleive that this is what he said just because somebody wrote this in his name, lots of things are being written to day in the name of big Gedolim & they absolutley have no source & I think this is one of them.

   Sorry you cant trust anybody these days & in our religion things usually have a source in the Talmud & this does not & yes i have seen a guy serve SOUP at his Bris as this was the most importent thing that he beleived in & it does not make the least bit of a difference & i am sure lots of Brisen from Gedolim in our times & they have not served Meat & they grew up big Talmidie Chachamim.

8. levtov32 relax, you don’t have to accept it, but nonetheless should respect it.

9. One more thing, that attitude is not a segula for good children. “Sorry you cant trust anybody these days” is not something you ever-want your children telling you, even if it means serving soup (or meat) at a bris.

10. LevTov32: Thank you very much for your comments. Yes, segulos are an important thing, and definitely a chelek of the Torah, as of course Tefilla. However, the first gift Hashem bestowed to Man was “Sechel”-common sense, as we daven each day “atah chonen l’adam daas”. Through our sechel we understand our obligation and responsibility to build our childrens potential to serve Hashem by putting in an effort each day building their confidence and showing them appreciation of their maalos. If we ignore these responsobilities or if we don’t do this sufficiently, we are actually “Rotzchim” for destroying our own children through our actions. We need Gedolim to reveal the segulos hidden in the Torah, and of course we need to daven each day for our childrens hatzlacha, as the pasuk says “im Hashem Lo Yivneh Bais L’shuv Umlu Bonuv Bo”. However, we don’t need our Gedolim to teach us “Sechel” that was already bestowed on every one of us by Hashem, and which is the fundamental vessel to use in order to properly do all the mitzvos of the Torah.

11. OMG this is not a segulah its a special TEFILLAH. You CAN’T raise children w/o tefillos.

12. Tefillah is the cornerstone of yiddishkeit. We must question the emunah of one that does not make use of tefillah. It seems that those people feel that they can do it all on their own. KOICHI VEOITZEM YADI!!! When we daven to HaShem, we are showing that we realize that He and only He is the mkor of everything.

    Of course, there is an element of hishtadlus involved, but clearly, its not quid pro quo. Furthermore, very often, the hishtadlus that we put in, goes nowhere, yet, we see reward from something entirely different.

    On a different note, today there is a phenomenon of children falling through the cracks. This includes children from the very best homes including rabbanim that learn daily with their children and misaskim that are always there for their children. It also includes people with the very best shalom bayis. Do you think that these children that fall through Rachman Litzlan, are products of a lack of effort on the parents part???

    I will end with a well known story. The holy Steipler z’l once commented that “not a day goes by that I dont daven for my chaim’el that the Aibeshter should keep him on the right path”. Yes, as many commented previously, the Steipler Gaon (gaon means that his wisdom was incredible) understood that tefillah is paramount!! Oh, I forgot to mention that HaRav HaGaon Rav Chaim Kanievski shlita was in his 50s when his father made that comment.
    raboisai, we must daven from the depths of our hearts. Kuli hai veulai!!!!

13. The sheloh says that this tefilah can be said at anytime but especially on erev rosh chodesh sivan.
    Parshas Hamon can be said anytime for Parnosa but especially on Tuesday of Beshalach.
    I scratch my head as to why people say Parshas Hamon every day but only say this tefilah once a year….

14. #12: Yes, Tefilla is definitely a cornerstone of the Torah, as Chaza”l say “on 3 pillars the world stands…” However, we dare not, by davening alone, allieve ourselves, even in the slightest way from our obligation to do the much harder work that Hashem has tasked us = to invest kochos into our children.

    And, No, our daily obligation to show appreciation to our children, build their confidence, and bring out their maalos, is NOT just an “Element” of hishtadlus; it is actually the “Cornerstone” of our obligation to raise our children, which Hashem has tasked us by giving us our children as a pikadon.

    Let us all daven hard today for extra siyata d’shmaya, and let us use this special time to reflect on our daily obligation to do ‘avoda’ with our children, and how we can perfect ourselves in this area. Hatzlacha to everyone and may Hashem guide us in the right path.