[FROM THIS WEEKS YATED]
New evidence indicates that a recent infant death the NYC Department of Health claimed was caused by metzitzah b’peh (circumcision with oral suction) was most likely an accident caused by the newborn’s 2-year old brother.
In an exclusive interview given to Debbie Maimon of Yated Ne’eman, the infant’s mother, Mrs. K from Brooklyn (who prefers not to use her full name in the media to maintain her privacy), recalls how her two-year-old son shared the infant’s pacifier about 2 weeks before his death. The two-year–old suffered from severe recurring bouts of oral herpes, the same virus that killed the baby, and had an active cold sore when he put the baby’s pacifier into his mouth before sticking it back into the baby’s mouth. Cold sores contain the virus that causes oral herpes and are highly infectious.
“Transmission from a family member is well established in the medical literature,” according to Dr. Daniel Berman, chief of infectious diseases at New York Westchester Square Medical Center. “It’s been proved with DNA fingerprinting.”
Worse, Mrs. K said that hospital personnel noted the existence of a herpetic sibling in the medical records of the infant, but this was ignored by the health department and the medical examiner, who 4 months after the baby’s death cited “circumcision with oral suction” as the source of the fatal herpes infection.
Mrs. K says that health officials never considered the fact that the infant had been contaminated by his two-year-old brother. “It was only after talking to Dr. Berman that I realized how fatal this was. He said the most dangerous time for a newborn to be exposed to herpes is up to two months after birth. I simply never knew. I don’t think most mothers have a clue.” Without that information, Mrs. K’s future children would have been exposed to the same danger.
Instead, the NYC Health Department relies in part on that case, and the stated cause of death as metzitzah b’peh (mbp), as a lynchpin for outlawing mbp without written consent by parents stating that they know mbp causes death.
The uproar over mbp has brought about an Orwellian situation where the likely cause of neonatal deaths from HSV-1, namely from a herpes-infected family member or caregiver, is being ignored by the very officials whose job it is to alert the public to this health hazard.
The Yated article alleges that instead of nailing down the real culprit in herpes infection in newborns, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) released a report by the DOH that focused the blame solely on mbp. The report asserted that mbp poses higher risks of HSV-1, which could be fatal to newborns.
REPORT RIDDLED WITH INACCURATE DATA
The health report was the latest salvo in the DOH campaign to eradicate metzitzah b’peh. DOH head Tom Farley is as explicit about his agenda as he could be. Farley is quoted as saying he hopes to achieve the goal that mbp “never be performed.”
So hostile is DOH to mbp that it in its rush to judgment, its report is riddled with omissions and inaccurate data, experts say.
Dr. Berman said that “the report overlooks a much more obvious cause of herpes infection in newborns – direct contact with a family member with an open and infectious herpes cold sore.”
This serious omission (among many others), and the report’s unreliable data and conclusions render it of dubious value, he said.
“The data prove nothing at all,” Berman said in a lengthy phone interview with Yated. “There simply is no evidence at all linking ritual circumcision with herpes.”
WILLFUL BLINDNESS?
Dr. Berman noted that the health report cited the fact of 25 cases of newborn deaths from herpes – where mbp was not performed – over a 5-yer period. How then did the infants contract the infection? The medical consensus, he said, is that the infection came from the most common route – exposure to a family member or caregiver with herpes.
Why should it be any different in the religious community, he asked. If mbp was not in the picture, would there be the slightest doubt in anyone’s mind about how the herpes infection was most likely transmitted?
Dr. Berman was troubled by the fact that the report insisted on blaming mbp for the death of a newborn whose sibling had been afflicted with herpes at the time. The authors of the report refused to credit this documented fact as the likely source of the herpes infection that caused the newborn’s death.
Even without offering a shred of evidence that mbp had been performed, the report treated it as a given. The cause of death, according to chief medical examiner Charles Hirsch, (employed by the DOH), was disseminated herpes HSV-1 due to oral suction during circumcision.
Dr. Berman reviewed the medical file on the above-mentioned tragedy. He found the record contained no information at all about the circumciser or the circumcision. The weight of the evidence it did provide pointed overwhelmingly to the likelihood that the newborn’s acquisition of a fatal herpes infection had come from an infected sibling.
DIRECT CONTACT WITH INFECTED 2-YEAR OLD IGNORED
Dr. Berman subsequently confirmed his findings with the mother of the baby, Mrs. K. from Brooklyn. She told him that her 2-year old had plucked a pacifier from the newborn’s mouth, stuck it into his own mouth for a second, then returned it to the infant’s mouth. The 2-year old had been afflicted with severe herpes blisters on and off prior to this incident and had an active cold sore at the time.
The mother said she had no idea that a herpes infection was so contagious and could be fatal to a newborn.
However, neither the attending physicians in the hospital, the DOH researchers nor the medical examiner seized on this clue in determining the cause of the baby’s illness and death, though this complication was in the medical file. If they acknowledged the 2-year old as a potential source for the newborn’s herpes infection, they gave no indication of it.
Their questions were solely about the circumcision, who performed it, how exactly he did it and questions of that sort, Mrs. K. later told one of her attorneys, Mr. Yerachmiel Simins, who shared this information with Yated.
“There’s a kind of tunnel vision in some parts of the medical community when it comes to mbp,” Dr. Berman observed. “In some ways this is understandable. To an outsider, the practice of sucking blood from the circumcision wound on the baby’s organ is incomprehensible. There is a predisposition to see it as unhealthy even though when done properly, it isn’t.”
The problem is that the negativity about mbp clouds people’s judgment, he said. “When you have a clear family history of a herpes risk factor in front of you, no one should question for a split second where the newborn’s herpes infection came. Logically no one should be scratching their head, wondering if the baby picked up an infection from the mohel. It makes no sense.” No mohel with cold sores would perform mbp.
Mrs. K.’s newborn son died of a herpes infection ten months ago. During the interview, conducted in the presence of one of her attorneys, she recalled the excruciating chain of events that led up to her baby’s death, and the nightmarish harassment that followed.
Her baby was about two and a half weeks old when she noticed one evening profuse bleeding in the diaper area. When she was unable to stanch the bleeding, she rushed the baby to the emergency room.
Amid tests, the infant was hooked up to an IV and given medications to treat a possible herpes infection or staff infection. An examination revealed a blister on the baby’s heel that later turned out to be a herpes blister, but few other outer clues.
“I told them yes, one of my children had had cold sores,” Mrs. K. recalled. “At the time, I had no idea that cold sores in a sibling – even a small sore – could be life threatening to an infant. I’ve always been a very cautious mother, maybe even over-cautious when it came to newborns. But it took this tragedy to open my eyes to the danger of herpes transmission.”
“I was asked again and again about the circumcision by various people in the emergency room,” Mrs. K. recalled. “Was it a traditional circumcision, they wanted to know. Can you tell us who did the procedure, they kept repeating.
“I didn’t respond to those questions. It confused me that this was all that seemed to matter to these people. My focus was on my baby… I remember feeling so frustrated. My baby was dying but that seemed to be secondary! Can we please just take care of this sick baby, I wanted to shout. Isn’t that what matters most right now?”
Tragically, the infant did not respond to the medications and after struggling for two days, passed away. The doctors noted liver failure on his medical chart but could not explain the cause for it.
It was four months before Mrs. K. and her husband would learn the cause of death. “We were getting over the tragedy, trying to put our lives back together after the trauma,” she said. “Then in February, we received a letter from the medical examiner that our baby died of herpes.”
“I still did not make the connection between that information and the fact that my 2-year old, who had a small sore on his lip, had licked the baby’s pacifier before sticking it back into the baby’s mouth. It was only after talking to Dr. Berman that I realized how fatal this was. He said the most dangerous time for a newborn to be exposed to herpes is up to two months after birth. I simply never knew. I don’t think most mothers have a clue.”
NEW NIGHTMARE
The family was in the midst of trying to put the nightmare behind them, when a fresh one erupted.
Following the medical examiner’s letter, the media picked up the story and sensationalized it, setting the stage for a renewed attack on mbp, and putting Mrs. K. in the line of fire.
“There were non-stop telephone calls from strangers, from reporters and news stations. Many of my relatives were harassed as well. They all harped on one question: the baby’s circumcision. Callers wanted to know who performed the circumcision, what exactly he did or didn’t do. I felt no obligation to answer and made no comment. It was clear this harassment was being orchestrated.”
Mrs. K. recalled returning home one evening when a woman from the Brooklyn DA’s office stopped her at the entrance to her home.
“She introduced herself and after some honeyed words about my ‘tragic loss,’ said the DA would like to ask me a few questions – just a brief, friendly talk. She presented herself as a sympathetic friend, who even in the midst of making a wedding, wanted to be of assistance to me. She offered to drive me down to the DA’s office.
“I told her it was impossible at that hour. I was holding bags in my arms, I had my children waiting for me, supper and bedtime to take care of. She suggested I call her the following day and she would pick me up and drive me to the office. I said I would consider that. The next day she called me. I said I would prefer not to come in, that if they wanted to pursue this, they could speak to my lawyer.’
“She got really angry. ‘Why did you have to do that?’ she demanded. ‘What did you do that for? This was just going to be a friendly talk.’
“I was now on my guard. It was clear this person was no friend and the talk with the DA would be anything but ‘brief” and ‘friendly.’”
Harassed by the DA and the media, Mrs. K. said she and her family are being denied closure on a searing tragedy. She is still wanted for questioning by the Brooklyn DA’s office in connection with a pending criminal investigation regarding her baby’s death. The focus of the investigation is clearly mbp.
“People have different degrees of faith,” she said. “If I were not who I was, our lives would be in shambles now,” she said. A less strong person would have crumbled, becoming a pawn in what is clearly a political agenda.
The article & interview can be found HERE.
(YWN World Hedquarters – NYC)
23 Responses
I’m expecting to see all the commentators who will choose to put their trust in the phonies and frauds at the NYC Health Department rather then common sence, and Chaza”l.
These are probebly the same people who will believe Shaul Mofaz over Rav Chaim Kanievsky…
Go ahead YW, open the door wide!
Why is there no outrage against the health department’s agenda to infringe upon our religious rights?? We need to stop the apathy and be heard. The govt needs to stay out of bris milah. Period!
Im speechless.
Sounds like it’s time for us to take the Health Department to task for their outrageous conduct in this episode.
If this can be proven with records of the infant’s brother, why hasnt this been publicized in the secular media?
Sadly part of life! People and many times non religious or even religious rebels have an agenda. They are out to get even with someone or some business or religion, and will attempt to dictate even without any evidence others life. How horrible! Hope our politicians will cause a ruckus so that the media will see and pounce on this! (after all like a cat runs for its prey, the media pounces on any gossip out there! especially if it’s a good one!)
It seems likely that some of the other cases of neonatal herpes, which the NYC Dept of Health attributes to Metzizah B’Peh, are simply conjecture and/or wishful thinking.
They the NYC DOH, always claimed that the number of cases of neonatal herpes in the Chareidi community must be much higher than previously reported, so they made neonatal herpes a reportable disease, mandating every physician and hospital to report any suspected or possible cases of herpes, but, alas, in the last 5 years, the cases are perhaps even less then previously reported.
Truly amazing. And she is even more amazing, and on the ball. It’s refreshing to read how she handled this.
Truly amazing, that sharing a pacifier could cause a baby to have a sore on the makom hamilah.
And I would thought that the sore on the makom hamilah might have been due to contact with the mohel’s mouth and that this was why they would not let the health authorities know who it was and why he never came forward to be tested.
Amazing — because now we know that the non-cooperation was not necessary, because it was all due to sharing a pacifier!
Thank You so much, Dr. Berman!
Who would have known?
what is very interesting to note is that this article is from Yeted. Here is Israel, Yeted is very much anti Internet and look and see, they have an internet site.
I wonder if the discrepancy was lost on the many?
I still don’t understand: If this baby’s death was caused by his brother sharing his pacifier, why can’t people believe that a mohel that carries the HSV also transmit the virus to an infant. If a mohel is tested & confirmed to carry this virus then he shouldn’t do MBP
Exactly as AZOS.IS says…where’s the proof?
Nebech…
Very relevant and informative. Thank you.
Pessimistically I don’t expect anything good to come of this new development.
For those who believe that Jews in America have nothing to worry about, this is just another not-so-small step towards the day when Hashem may decide that we are too comfortable here and need to be ‘convinced’ to leave.
The Health Department may determine that Milah is too dangerous for our own good, the TSA may outlaw Tefillin because of a fear that evil things are being smuggled inside them, the CDA could find that parchments in Sifrei Torah harbor fatal germs. There is no limit to the outrageous excuses Goyim can make up to disguise their Religious Persecution.
As Avraham Avinu said – ‘Rak Ein Yir’As Elokim Bemakom Hazeh’. A country can claim to be democratic, fair, and free, but the definition of freedom and the application of it’s rights is always subject to the whims of politicians.
Mitzvah L’Farsem.
I hope this is a real lesson to us, who sometimes side with what we think is logical even if it goes against CHAZAL.
Mrs K. you are a Tzadeikes. You should find a nechomo in your righteos ways.
When will we finally understand that Government agencies respond to politics, not facts.
The CDC has TRIPLED the number of mandatory vaccinations required for our children in just the last few years, without conducting any safety tests to find out what happens when so many combinations of vaccines are given to babies, some just a few monts old.
It is a question of money. The drug and vaccine manufacturers are the LARGEST DONATORS to politicians in Washington, and, therefore, they get whatever they want encated into law.
Vaccines are a hugely profitable cash cow that keeps giving–automatically–to the drug companies.
There is a lot of hidden anti-Semitism in the Government agencies, and this is expressed as indifference, and even antagonism, to our religious requirements. These people are quite prepared to ride roughshod over our protests, and use the brute force of Government to force us to put potentially dangerous toxins into our children’s bodies, like it or not.
The VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System), is a Government fund that pays out money to parents who file a verified claim of serious vaccine injury, such as a paralyzed child. It is a voluntary reporting system, so it is underreported. Over two billion dollars in claims have been paid out thus far, representing thousands of cases–and this is only the tip of the iceberg.
Brit Milah attaks should be a warning signal for us to wake up and not passively accept every Government mandate, especially for children under two years of age, whose immune systems have not matured and who report adverse effects to VAERS at a rate that is 10 times the amount of children over two years old.
Hey Joe Shmoe –
That’s what I love about most people who post here…unlike the rest of the world, they don’t have an agenda.
I mean, the entire briah, except for you, is an abomination, frei Yidden should know that they need to “bow before us” (did I get it right Uri?), those raised frei do not have opinions different from us, rather they’re simply “flawed,” (right Ralph?) all of Zahal is a moral cesspool that exempts all of you from serving, science is an illusion…and anyone who differs from you is a rasha.
But you don’t have an agenda.
I tried posting this before but it didn’t get posted, not sure why.
I have an honest question – where is it written that the drawing of blood needs to be done by mouth? And – where does it say that the mohel can’t use a barrier device like I’ve seen some mohels do? I’ve seen 2 types – one made of glass & one a piece of plastic that fit over the milah so the mohel can do metzize b’peh without actually touching the wound (It’s open on the other end so the mohel puts his mouth around the opening to apply oral suction.)
I’m not a mohel so I don’t know where these halachot come from – or, are some of them minhag? Looking forward to learning more. Thanks!
I am on the verge of being outraged. But first, could somebody please tell me where exactly on his body did the the infant developed herpes?
If it was on the groin area then it might explain why the Health-department chose to ignore the 2-year-old brother’s herpes infection.
Until I have the answer to this inquiry I’m putting my anger on hold.
Honestly, the report should have mentioned this “minor” detail…
#19 Wise-Guy
Please read the article clearly and thouroughly.
The baby had a blister on the heel.
He also had internal bleeding as the herpes virus ravaged his internal organs, but he DID NOT have any blisters in the groin area.
Honestly, you should have known this fact before you wrote your comment.
#9, Where on earth did you get the idea that the baby’s sore was there? This was not stated in any article on the subject, here or anywhere else, so you must have made it up yourself. Is your sin’ah for yiddishkeit so strong that you must invent things?
#18, the requirement is in the gemara, the shulchan aruch, and in every single rishon and acharon for the past 2000 years. On whether it can be done through a pipette, there was a big machlokes in the 19th century; see the Sdei Chemed for a list of the major poskim on both sides.
#16, what has your anti-vaccine lunacy got to do with the subject, or with “our religious requirements”? Our religion has no objection whatsoever to vaccinations, in any quantity medical science determines is appropriate, and your unsupported claims about safety, beside their probable falsehood, are also irrelevant to the topic. You are trying dissuade parents from protecting their children, scaring them with lies.