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Jewish Groups Demand New Probe Into Marine Photo


A leading Jewish organization and others outraged by a photo showing Marine snipers in Afghanistan posing with a logo resembling a notorious Nazi symbol are demanding President Barack Obama order an investigation and hold the troops accountable.

The Marine Corps has said it does not plan any discipline because there was no malicious intent. The Marines mistakenly believed the “SS” in the shape of white lightning bolts on the blue flag were a nod to sniper scouts — not members of Adolf Hitler’s special unit that murdered millions of Jews, gypsies and others, said Maj. Gabrielle Chapin, a spokeswoman at Camp Pendleton, Calif.

The Marines are no longer with Charlie Company, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, out of the base north of San Diego, and Chapin said she did not know if they had left the Corps.

Military officials learned of the photograph in November and investigated immediately. It later surfaced on a blog of a military weapons company.

In the September 2010 photo taken in the Sangin district of Helmand province, Marines with guns pose in front of an American flag above a dark blue flag with the “SS” letters.

Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder of Los Angeles’ Simon Wiesenthal Center, said he does not believe it was an innocent mistake and insisted the American public has a right to know what happened.

His organization — one of the largest international Jewish human rights groups with more than 400,000 members — is demanding Obama and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta launch another investigation and discipline those involved.

“That 70 years after the United States Armed Forces helped liberate Europe from Nazi Germany, to learn that a unit of the United States Marine Corps serving in Afghanistan adopted the SS insignia alongside the Stars and Stripes, desecrates the memory of some 200,000 Americans who gave up their lives to defend freedom against that infamous symbol,” he said in a statement.

The Corps has used the incident as a training tool to talk to troops about what symbols are acceptable, Chapin said.
“I don’t believe that the Marines involved would have ever used any type of symbol associated with the Nazi Germany military criminal organization that committed mass atrocities in WWII,” Chapin said. “It’s not within who we are as Marines.”

Hier said it clearly shows more training about the Holocaust and the SS unit is needed.

It was the second time this year that photos have surfaced showing Marines acting improperly and forcing the Corps to deal with the fallout. Last month, the Pentagon scrambled to contain the damage after an Internet video purportedly showed Marines urinating on Taliban corpses — an act that appears to violate international laws of warfare and further strains U.S.-Afghan relations. Panetta called Afghan President Hamid Karzai to offer assurances of an investigation, and the top Marine general promised an internal probe as well as a criminal one.

Those Marines, like the ones in front of the flag, fought in former Taliban strongholds in Helmand province. They are based at Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Mikey Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, headquartered in Albuquerque, N.M., said the scandals hurt U.S. military missions. His organization sent a letter to the head of the Marine Corps, Gen. James Amos, and Panetta on Thursday calling on them to “condemn this stomach-turning display without equivocation or delay and severely punish all of those responsible.”

His organization released another photo showing a Marine and his rifle with the “SS” logo. According to the Marine Corps Times, embedded electronic information in the image shows that it was released by the Corps in 2004 and taken at the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center at Twentynine Palms, Calif. Two Marines in it were with a scout sniper platoon.

The newspaper said that suggests the practice is more widespread and that the logo’s use is meant to signify “scout sniper,” a position exclusive to the Corps. The Army has scouts and snipers, but considers the positions to be separate.

Weinstein said more needs to be done to stop the use of the logo.

“This shameful display of SS ‘lightning bolts’ by U.S. service personnel enrages our regional allies, emboldens the extremist Islamist forces with whom we are contending, and eviscerates good order, morale, and discipline within the U.S. Marine Corps,” said Weinstein, who founded the advocacy group that calls attention to violations by the military in regards to respecting people of all beliefs.

Thanks to the Internet, the public throughout the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have witnessed inappropriate behavior by troops photographed or recorded on video in acts ranging from criminal to simply stupid.

(Source: ABC News)



12 Responses

  1. correction:
    Marvin Hier has a need to find a way to justify his major salary without doing anything to endanger an invitation to the white house.
    Any time I hear from him I think I’m at the top of a bakery chimney, a lot of hot air with plenty of dough behind it.

  2. I believe there should be an investigation to see if they had malicious intent or were simply unaware of the meaning of the symbols. If it turns out that they were unaware then that would be a further sign that it’s time for the country to incorporate some Holocaust education into the school curriculum.

  3. Is this really worth making such a fuss about? I’d give the marines in question the benefit of the doubt, and address the issue with education, not punishment. Not everyone is aware of the meaning of all former Nazi symbols – particularly ones that have not been widely seen in over 65 years. The SS logo is not nearly as well known as the swastika.

    an Israeli Yid

  4. Given the age and education level of the marines involved, the most likely explanation is that they didn’t realize the Nazi connection. The only German insignia that are widely recognized among those who aren’t “into” the period, and the swastika and the “iron cross”. Another factor is that since the marines weren’t involved much in the European Theater of World War II, they wouldn’t have had occasion to even see pictures of Germans when they were givena bit of Corps history.

    Those kids need to apollogize, but the grownups are overacting.

  5. Whats the fuss these stupid Jewish groups are blowing things out of proportion. It would not for one minute occur to me that it has a nazi intent. Stop hyperbowling and scrutinizing every shape on earth and let live.

  6. If it weren’t for anti-Semitism there are a lot of Jews who wouldn’t have anything Jewish to be involved with at all. So there are those among us who look for anti-Semitism wherever they can, and imagine something as anti-Semitic that was probably just an innnocent bit of respite from battle for a troop of soldiers. Of course, the problem becomes that this can create anti-Semites among non-Jews if this becomes the first encounter they’ve ever had with us.

  7. Why is it necessary to educate everyone about every symbol the Nazis used? Why does everyone have to become an expert on one short period 60 years ago? Even swastikas are used quite innocently by some people, and why should that bother us? Some people behave as if the entire world should revolve around the Holocaust and only the Holocaust. Just accept that these marines used the SS symbol innocently and let it go, just as we let it go when every Jain temple in the world displays a swastika.

  8. BTW: Until I saw this article, I didn’t know that was a Nazi symbol either. Actually, this article is the first time I’ve ever seen it.

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