PHOTO LINK BELOW: An historic meeting took place Wednesday evening in Israel between Maran Rav Shteinman Shlita, and Hagon Rav Yoel Kahn Shlita of Lubavitch.
The meeting was held at Rav Shteinman’s home in Bnei Brak and was coordinated by Lubavitch businessman Avraham Kanelsky.
Rav Kahn is in Eretz Yisroel for a series of Farbrengens in honor of the 19th of Kislev, known in Chabad as the “Rosh Hashana of Chassidus.”
The two exchanged Torah thoughts and Rav Kahn, a senior Mashpia and leading authority on Chassidus, reviewed a Sichah of the Rebbe about Chanukah.
Rav Shteinman asked about Rav Kahn’s age, upbringing and when he emigrated to the U.S. from Israel.
At the end of their conversation, a new book was presented: “Chassidus Mevueres – Tefilla,” a compilation of teachings by Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi (1745 – 1812), founder and first Rebbe of Chabad, known as the “Alter Rebbe”, and Mechaber of the Shulchan Aruch HaRav.
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16 Responses
Wonderful! Rav Kahn was the transmitter of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, z’tl’s, talks on Shabbat & Yom Tov, when mechanical recording is impossible.
He stood in front of the “dais” where the Rebbe,z’tl, sat and committed to memory everything the Rebbe,z’tl, said. Afterwards, he gave it over for physical recording. Were it not for his phenomenal ability, the world would not have had the opportunity to hear so much of these extensive, and significant, talks. (I once had the zchus to eat at Rav Kahn’s table.)
Someone should explore the possibility of writing down his own life story.
בצער רב וביגון קודר הננו להודיע על פטירתה של תנועת דגל התורה. נוסדה לפני 21 שנה על ידי מרן הרב שך מתוך דרישה להחרים את חסידות חב”ד. נפטרה היום בפגישה ההיסטורית. יהי זכרה ברוך.
Was the dangers posed by the meshichisniks disscussed at this historic meeting?
יחד הרים ירננו
# 2 you are a sick man.
#2 well put im sure r shach is roling over…
LOL at #2. 🙂
There are still normal Chabad people. Relatively normal, at least – normal, keeping in mind they’re Chabad.
I guess everyone’s learning is not strong enough to stop them from ill feelings toward fellow Jews because of their affiliation. In trying to be delicate, cannot someone constantly bring up the shortcomings of the NON Lubavitch, frum community? For many Jews, Chabad and Lubavitch are literally life-savers beyond what words can say. Let Hashem decide the rest.
Of course there are “normal” chabadniks out there, however the danger of the meshichists are well documented and it is the meshichists who control 770 and a large part of the official apparatus of Lubavitch.
Considering the glorious past of Lubavitch this is quite sad but the fact that something is sad does not change the facts.
It is because of this that Maran HaRav Shach zt’l started Degel HaTorah to make sure that all were aware of the growing dangers of the modern day chabad theology and stay far away from it for it is kefira.
When he introduced the word of the Lubavitcher rebbe z”tl did he say zatzal or did he say the rebbe.
#9, Regardless, no group is without things another can point their finger at. Would it not be to our advantage to be able to see or hear the words “Chabad” or “Lubavitch” without people adding a snicker or smearing footnote?
Maybe it’s something I have to work on, but in knowing many wonderful Lubavitch, and never seeing that fanatical side everyone likes to talk about, by being critical of them, all it does is make me think of all the frauds and terrible things I hear and see and know about in the non-Lubavitch, frum community.
Chabad/Lubavitch have their amazing people just like all the other “factions” in observant Judaism. I say let’s just leave it at that.
With all due respect I have close reletives who are proud Lubavitchers living in Crown Heights and unfortunetley the children (some now on shlichus) are meshichist.
In Russia the central Lubavitch movement is meshichist.
It Italy the entire school system is meshichist and in fact a pamohlet describing what is going on there has been written i beleive Rav Feivel Cohen has access to it.
I know of no other movement in Klal Yisroel that has a modern day theological underpinnig that many Gedolim led by the Godol Hador zt’l have called kefira.
“An historic meeting took place ”
One may ask what is so historic about this.
I think it is historic because we see a leader in the Chabad movement showing respect and deference to one of the (living) gedolim.
I think if more people in the Chabad movement would respect and listen to the opinions of the gedolim of our time, (It can just as well be Chasidish gedolim) we would see less of the frightening trends in some of their circles.
May this be a model for all of Klal Yisroel to follow.
The problem is not meshichist per say. The concepts of the meshichists have led many to believe that you can daven to this mashiach, and that he controls world events.
Here is a video of a prominent and very successful shaliach in LA talking during the Mumbai attacks about how the Rebbe controls the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfvqmCANF-c
We have to do our best to be mekarev and love these unfortunate, misguided Jews.
I think that Yitzi W point is unarguable, hopefully the fact that a representitive of Chabad met with a Litvishe Godol especially one who is part of Degel HaTorah represents a segment of Chabad wish to come back to reality.
Ben Levi
#15, Nonetheless, would it not be to our advantage that everytime the words “Chabad” or “Lubavitch” appear, they do not need to be followed by snickering or a smearing footnote? If people feel so strongly, than personally meet with them or write them a letter with the hopes of “correcting” them.