17 Responses

1. I don’t get this “forum”:

   Are there any undecided voters in the Orthodox Jewish community?

   Just yesterday, I had a meeting with an einu yehudi and he asked me the following question which I could not answer:

   “Why is it that 99% of all of my Orthodox Jewish associates and neighbors are voting for McCain but yet the Jewish community as a whole, are 60% in favor of ‘that one’? What blinds them?

   Is O not the candidate of the most ardent Jew haters and arabists?”

   I could not answer his question properly. Maybe my fellow commentors can enlighten me?

2. Yahoo News is reporting the following:

   “Palestinian Ibrahim Abu Jayab, 24, is seen next to his computer, in his family house in Nusayrat refugee camp, central Gaza Strip, Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008. A young Palestinian in a Gaza refugee camp is doing his part to get out the vote for Barack Obama. With a little help from the Internet, 24-year-old Ibrahim Abu Jayab is cold calling random American families from his parent’s home imploring them to vote Obama.”

   Notice the word IMPLORING.

   Why is he imploring?

   In prior elections, I disagreed with, yet I understood people voting the for the wrong candidate.

   But in this election I just don’t get.

   To My fellow O yidden are you for real?

   Please reconsider.

3. democrats have always captured the heart of the main stream jewish voter since roosevelt. when you speak about orthodox jewish voter , i believe its the non- chasidic ones you are refering to. my opinion is that the chasidic jews , whom are orthodox,will also vote for obama.

4. Ras 18 says:
   “my opinion is that the chasidic jews , whom are orthodox,will also vote for obama.’

   I beg to differ. In no way are the chasidic yidden I know voting for O.

   Quite the contrary, Chassidim are main stream Orthodox and voting within the same percentages as all frum Yidden.

   Although you write “my opinion is…”

   Please do not spread motzei shem rah on acheinu b’nei Yisrael and think you can get away with it. Writing that it is “my opinion” does not make it less wrong.

5. i think that especially in very difficult economic time, the yiddishe oilam will want to continue the social programs established by democrats (section 8, food stamp program, medicaid, etc.). voting for obama is a vote for those programs. not so for mccain who wants to cut government spending on what republicans have traditionally felt are wasteful programs.

6. Why isn’t it in the Agudah Shul

7. It is mind boggling that an person who is frum can be persuaded into the falseness of Obama and vote for him, will be sadly disspointed. If he wins, Jews will be facing struggles. If he loses, the true Obama will come out. I know that everything is B’yetei Shamayom” So we have to do what we can do and vote for MaCain. The rest is up to Hashem and accept everything with emuna.

8. Re annoy’s “Why isn’t it in the Agudah Shul?” Because it’s a community event – And if you don’t live “out of town” you won’t get it.

9. chanie1343 -I am an Agudath guy – and I’m voting for Obama. From my perspective, neither the hysteria on the left nor the hysteria on the right are anything more than that . . . hysteria.

   No less than McCain is a centrist Republican, Obama is a pretty mainstream, centrist Democrat. Despite the claims to the contrary, his closest advisors all are traditional centrists. As for Eretz Yisroael, my eduication (advanced degrees in political science and law) has taught me that the U.S. has fundemental strategic interests of its own in supporting Israel, interests having nothing to to do with “loving Jews,”and that these essentially do not shift no matter who is president. Furthermore, the supposedly “arabist” views attributed to one of his advisors are all well within the political mainstream in Israel itself.

   Personally, I am not afraid of Obama (Oy – I can just smell the “self-hating mamser” norishkeit that will come in response to this)- I think his domestic agenda is better for just about all of us – and I think that if he was a white man named Anderson most of you would have no great objection to him.

   I think the history of domestic anti-Semetism is lost on a lot of you; quite frankly I think the extent of the out-and-out racism in our community is shameful.

10. #10–you are out of it. advanced degrees in poly sci and law won’t help you with basic economics. He’s promising money for everything including health ins. for all as well as reducing premiums by 2500 per person. Where is the money going to come from ? As a lawyer don’t you question the veracity of statements. He clearly will tell you what you want to hear.
    He wants to redistribute the wealth–you may need your wealth to pay yeshiva tuition.
    You obviously have internet since you are able to get on to this web site. Have you not been getting email from all over(including established writers from newspapers)writing about all of Obamas relationships with anti semites and shadey characters ?
    Post your email address and I’ll send you articles about Obama that will ruin your day.

11. I am reading all these comments and it is mind boggle-ing that there are frum yidden even considering voting for O, afterall don’t they know that histadlus must be done .
    #1) We all are not blind and we know that O is from a background of goyim who would love to see a jew free country.
    #2) The Ribono Shel Olom runs this world and what ever does happen is because he and only he wants it to be , but we still must do our own histadlus and that is why there is bechira and we must vote for the correct party, which would be best for the country but especially for us yidden.
    #3)Just because we have all kemat registered Democrat does not mean that we vote always democrat down the line and there have been times as well as now that we must vote republican.
    #4) The ones who say that the republicans are going to take away this program and there will be less money for everybody , again go back to what you should be doing and that is have faith in the Ribono Shel Olom.
    We just got over a wonderful Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur and Succos Yom Tov with fabulous weather and davened to the Ribono Shel Olom and sung Hallel.
    Do not be in despair as – all He wants is for us to need Him and daven to Him and the world will be fine and it really would not matter who became President of the United States, but as far as voting goes we should vote with our minds and that should be MCc not O

12. I agree with Yonatan. #10.

    If I remember coreectly, Prsident Nixon often used ant-semitic langauge but when Israel was out of ammintion in the 1973 war, he supplied Israel withe arms it need to stave off disater and win the war.

    Secondly, how did all those Yidden vote for Clinton in the primaries after she kissed Arafat’ wife after she charged that Iarael was poisining the Palestinian water supply.

    It seems the got over it and the will get over Obama’s Victory.

13. Americans will wake up on Wed morning in total disbelief that we have allowed an inexperienced leader of questionable character to hold the keys of power of this country simply because of his superior oratory skills and not because of his abilities or policies.On most issues he has proven to be wrong or at the very least inconsistent. He has little or no record of any achievement in the US Senate and because of his skin color, Sen. McCain went out of his way to ignore most of the troubling aspects of Mr.Obama’s character for fear of being accused a racist ie Rev Wright.On many of these associations the plot keeps thickening.This is called reverse discrimination.
    For so many reasons we must encourage our brethren to vote for our core beliefs and our values.
    Mr. Obama does not share the values of the Jewish community plain and simple.We value family, religion and life. The democratic party is out of step with our fundamental core values. To argue this factual point only shows how brain washed many have become. As we get deeper into this financial disaster Mosdos and Yeshivos that were being supported by our dwindling G’virim will sadly suffer more under a Obama candidacy. Non public schools already left to basically fend for themselves will be crushed under the Democrats who are beholden to the powerful teacher unions. We are in terrible trouble now as a community.
    There is very little room for error and now is the time to stop this potential disaster before its too late.Your deep thinking ways may sound as polished as an Obama sound bite but open your eyes behind the cover lies a great unknown-BEWARE!

14. The biggest joke is people who are voting for Obama because they like the democrats entitlement socialist programs. First of all, it is the congress who changes laws, not the president. Second of all, even if McCain had a republican congress and could do what he wants, do you think for a second that he would cut programs like Hud (sec. 8) or food stamps during what might be a depression or severe recession? The programs he would cut are the ones that give special groups all kinds of money. This is not money for poor people. Eg.- Fed gov. money helps support that liberal near communist radio program NPR. These are the type of programs that should be cut anyway.
    BTW Ill, I can guarantee you the KKK is not supporting McCain; he is way too liberal for them. He really is what Bill Clinton claimed to be but wasn’t – A conservative democrat. Actually, I’m hoping the far right skinheads and the like, get off their moonshine and go vote for McCain just because they hate Obama’s color. If these rednecks vote for McCain instead of their silly right wing party candidates, McCain will win by a landslide even if Obama got all the black druggies to vote for him! The stupidest thing McCain did was to put Palin in, he should have put in Condi Rice to even up the ticket. If he would have done that the blacks would vote acc. to which party they belong. But given a choice between a black & white and two whites, the blacks racists are going to vote black. Colin Powell at least had the guts to admit this openly. I personally don’t vote acc. to color but acc. to issues.

15. #10, Obama is the most inexperienced and socialist candidate for president EVER. In his ONE senate term, Obama has not had time to write a single law, but has written THREE books about HIMSELF. When he was elected senator, he was asked if he would consider running for president. He said NO, because then he’d “have to essentially start now”.

    Obama has also said that he doesn’t regret his slip to Joe the Plumber that he intends to “spread the wealth around”. This means he wants to take your hard-earned parnassa and give it to some lazy drug addict on streets. I don’t want this to happen – do you?!

    And then there’s the most important issue of Obama negotiating with Ahmadinejad, who intends to “wipe Israel off the map” and is the main supporter of terrorism. Or do you support Ahmadinejad?!

    Voting for Obama is a risk that we as Americans and as Jews simply cannot take.

16. #10, let’s take a look at the people behind the obama campain:

    Palestinian Ibrahim Abu Jayab, 24, is seen next to his computer, in his family house in Nusayrat refugee camp, central Gaza Strip, Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008. A young Palestinian in a Gaza refugee camp is doing his part to get out the vote for Barack Obama. With a little help from the Internet, 24-year-old Ibrahim Abu Jayab is cold calling random American families from his parent’s home imploring them to vote Obama.
    (AP Photo/Khalil Hamra)

    On the eve of a planned meeting with former President Jimmy Carter, the isolated Hamas terrorist organization has expressed “hope” Sen. Barack Obama will win the presidential elections and “change” America’s foreign policy. “We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections,” Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas’ top political adviser in the Gaza Strip, said in an exclusive interview with WND and with the John Batchelor Show on WABC Radio in New York.

    Obama’s anti-Israel advisors
    By Alan Simons
    Ask many American Jews what they think about Zbigniew Brzezinski, a former national security advisor who served under President Carter, and you’ll receive a multitude of comments of which the vast majority aren’t particularly favourable. These comments can perhaps best be summed up in one sentence. “He’s no friend of Israel.”
    Brzezinski is one in a list of advisors that have recently joined the Obama campaign. David Bonior is another member of Obama’s team. As a Congressman, Bonior was known for his strong opposition to pro-Israel policies, being called by some “the biggest supporter of the anti-Israel Arab lobby in Congress.” (Jonathan Tobin, Jewish World Review,7/12/99).
    General Tony McPeak is also part of Obama’s team, and Robert Malley, who according to Daniel Pipes, is a sympathizer of the PLO, recently had to resign ‘after it was emerged that he was talking to Hamas.’ Malley is the Director of the Middle East/North Africa Program at the International Crisis Group (ICG). Brzezinski, sits as a member on ICGs Board.

    do you want someone with these supporters and advisers to be president?!

17. #10, you are the first person to bring up race. this is just the old liberal smear of anyone who dares to question obama