FIRST REPORT 3:30PM EST: After a one week delay, all girls have been placed into various High Schools in Lakewood, and the Rabbonim have given them the green-light to reopen, highly credible sources confirm to YWN.
YWN was the first news source to post last Wednesday 9/03/08, that as per the directive of the Lakewood Mashgiach and Roshei Yeshiva, orientation and opening for all Lakewood’s girls high schools had been canceled. This drastic move was done in accordance with the Psak Halacha of Maran Hagon Rav Elyashiv Shlita and Hagon Rav Aaron Leib Shteinman Shlita – that Lakewood’s girls high schools cannot open until all girls are accepted into a school.
Last evening there was much confusion in Lakewood after one school changed their hotline to state that their school was opening today. That message was changed a few hours later to state that the school will remain closed.
As of a few moments ago, all girls have been placed into schools, and they have been allowed to open for the new school year.
[YWN original posts on this topic can be found HERE and HERE]
(Yehuda Drudgestein – YWN)
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31 Responses
B’H all the girls have a place!
BORUCH HASHEM. But what steps will they take that this should not happen next year? Eighth graders will soon be applying for high school…
B”h ! I just hope the owners in the malls still have customers
Isn’t that pathetic!!! We have to bother our Gedolim about something our Menahalim and Mechanchim should never have allowed to happen. What is worse, this is not the first time this has happened. How are we, or for that matter, the talmidos, supposed to respect Menahalim and Mechanchim if they have no regard for individuals. It should be known that the only reason Gedolim got involved in the first place was because individual parents, who were affected, appealed to them. Sadly, it is not just girls but also boys and not just Lakewood but other places as well. Is it any wonder that there are LOADS of “at risk” children?
B”H – And it was resolved a lot quicker than some skeptics predicted. A good lesson for everone that hopefully means we don’t see a repeat next year.
I think this has been resolved only because parents starting grumbling that girls were getting bored and going from malls to pizza shops etc. to keep themselves busy. It is not healthy for teen age girls to be sitting around for three weeks since camp ended with nothing to do.
Also, I’ve heard that one school was about to open without permission as they indicated on their message yesterday and the Vaad made a face saving deal to cancel for another day. This way it looked like everyone was following the closure.
There was some resentment that this dragged on to long and many girls were draying zich with nothing to do. And this could lead to more problems.
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The statement that YWN reported, “all girls have been placed into various High Schools in Lakewood.” Is not 100% accurate. There is still ONE girl NOT in school. Why is she the only one not accepted, or even acknowledged by anyone? She’s a good girl!
This is totally absurd. Two thousand girls out of school for a week. Think of all the accumalitive hours – close to 24,000 hours of wasted time. Who’s taking the blame for all this time? I wouldn’t want it on my ‘playtzos’ just because I couldn’t get in to the school of my choice. If the rabbonim and askonim would ignore the parents, then kids would end up in the newer schools by default and then the newer school would be stronger. This goes for the elementary schools as well.
#9 last i checked there’s no issur with girls wasting their time, so really everyone’s Playtzos are pretty clean as far as this aspect goes
Dear Parents,
We acknowledge the fact that your daughter/son has great potential to be an excellent student.
I am sorry to say that your child has not been accepted into our high school this year due to the fact that there were other applicants who had any of the following: Yichus, Money, Alumini Family Status, or other means of pull to get in. This is not to say that she/he is not a “good child” but that there were others who were deemed of higher caliber than yours due to any of the above listed traits that we consider of higher value than this child’s personal achievement, academic skills or middos. Who her parents are counts more and I am sorry to say, since you are not a rosh yeshiva or in another prestigious position, your child will not be in our institution.
Sincerly,
The principal
How would you like to get a message like that? It would be written in other words, but this is the bottom line. Why should one person’s child be sent to the newer schools to make it into a stronger school and not another? Maybe they should send the “cha$huv $tudent$” there in order to make it a better school! Didnt some of the greatest Roshei Yeshivos send their top students to other new schools to help them get started?
To bmgboy,
You should change your name to something else.
How do you use bmg in your name, when you have no respect for the hanhalah? Obviously the new schools couldn’t or wouldn’t take anymore- that’s why everyone had to be placed in a old school. Don’t think for a moment anybody wanted all the girls out of school. This was something that was needed to be done to get every Yiddishe kindt into school.
wow hold up every one non of this would happen if every new school in lakewood gets closed down because its not”frum” enough the reason kids go off is either presure or if you shelter a kid to much when they find what you were sheltering them from they abuse it and go way to far and go off because of that
Now you should just remember for next year, if you want to get into the “elite high school”, just be persistent and in the end you will get in.
that’s an amazing response, havesomeseichel.
this is just why i love lakewood…from several hundred miles away, where we can send our children to school without lying about our viewing this web site!
ALL QUOTE UNQUOTE FRUM SCHOOLS ELEMENTARY, HIGH SCHOOL – BOYS, GIRLS SHOULD LEARN A LESSON FROM THIS. SCHOOLS CANNOT FORCE A FRUM CHILD THAT WANTS TO ATTEND YESHIVA OUT OF THE NETWORK. THE SCHOOLS SHOULD HELP THE CHILD FIND A PLACE TO FIT IN.
allowed to open? as if they need permission to open their school – this is america a free country where we dont need the permission of anyone to do what we want
Suggestion,
Why can’t the Gedolim make a takanah in JULY saying that unless all girls are accepted by July 15 or August 1st, we won’t let the schools open on time in September.
Like that come September 1st, everybody will have been accepted and it will avoid the embarrasment to these girls and all the other problems of delaying school opening for a week won’t be an issue.
#19-Maybe the gedolim should make a takanah in July or August that if all the girls are accepted into schools, then the camps should be forced to remain opened. This way the girls won’t be at the malls and pizza shops all day for threee weeks.
ATTENTION daasbaalhabayis :
I GOTTA SAY THIS FOR YOU;
YOU ARE CONSISTENT IN YOUR HATRED OF OUR GEDOLIM.
IT’S FREE-THINKERS LIKE THAT STARTED THE HASKALA MOVEMENT.
WHO KNOWS, MAYBE YOU’LL BE FAMOUS (INFAMOUS) ONE DAY!
to # 18
are u an american JEW
or a jewish american?
get it?
my holocaust survivor parents watched their grandchildren being rejected from high school. Is this what they survived the war for? they couldn’t believe it. The system is failing us, something has to be done in Lakewood.
#15 is right, now the parents will know how to play the “game” to get their kids into school. Have fun next year, Lakewood. They really have become and eyesore in the frum world in this respect.
STOP DOING KIRUV WORK, we have no room in our schools for their children!!!! I am disgusted by this, sometimes I wonder what I became frum for if I can’t send my kids to yeshiva.
If tuition would be deducted for every day they missed, you could be sure that they would have taken care of this problem before September.
In stead its CHOITE NISKAR.They can play hardball with nothing to lose and save money on school expenses each day they are closed.
I guess we won’t be calling the “sno” anymore to find out there “sno” school
Stop!! It’s not the schools that are at fault. It is you and I that pressure the principles not to allow our pure and perfect children to be exposed to “lesser” type kids. We beg the Menahalim not to allow the “not the norm” type family into the school. We bombard our teachers as to why our children are not learning faster and why are we not on the same daf as the other schools. There problem lies in the fact that you and I are uncomfortable and are are not steadfast in our own level and strength of yiddishkeit. We are therefore afraid our children will be easily lost to the influences of these not so perfect kids and families. Nebach on us !! As Bob Grant is wont to say, “It’s sick out there and getting sicker”.
Shtinkovitz- You are right, it is a nebach on us, but please do not blame the parents. Unless you have a child that was rejected from school, which I don’t wish on my worst enemy, you really don’t understand the issues here. Us parents are paying thousands of dollars for our daughters education and we have absolutely every right to insist on what school we feel is the right place for our daughters. From what my daughter tells me, every year another new high school in lakewood closes, so what parent wants to send their girl to a new highschool that is not established and stable and then next year they have another daughter to apply for high school and the same drill will go on again. the whole system needs a major overhaul. I suggest to lakewood that a very big gadol start a school and endorse it fully and this is the only way people will send and get it going.
from a parent whose daughter was just “placed” in a lakewood highschool.do you want to know how she was placed?like an animal at an auction.the school she was placed in was picked out of a goral.thats right whichever school was picked had to get her.my daughter has been crying nonestop.this school was at the very bottom of our list.say what you want but my daughter didnt deserve this.she is a wonderful child with an amazing heart.i cant tell you what this has done to us.
notblackandwhite, listen to your own words “this school was at the very bottom of our list”. Not just at the bottom, but at the VERY bottom. Listen up… You deserve that you daughter was not initially accepted. Your attitude is at the bottom, no I mean the Very bottom. Well excuuuuuse me, your little bubbeleh didnt make into the elitist school and she only made it into the nebach school. Good luck honey, you’re in for a long haul…unless of course you are prepared to come to terms that all the schools are tops and if you can’t handle that some of your girl’s fellow classmatese are not up to your speed of (so called) high level of yiddishkeit then your daughter’s goose is cooked. Again, glad you learnt this lesson.
We need to revert to our origins. Someone remind me please what the simanei yisrael are? Hmmm, cruelty…. haughtiness….. sadism? Teen age girls should not have to deal with this level of rejection. It does not matter who is right or who is wrong we are making a gigantic korban of our daughters. We want our daughters to grow up with strong sense of self and we crush them with our heels. We want our daughters to love yiddishkeit but all we present to them is shallowness. Rejection is not all bad, but it has to be done with gentleness and love. Ahh, yes, RACHAMANIM. Our daughter is refined and doesn’t stand out in the crowd and therefore didn’t get “chosen” for the “best” school. Oh, yes, BEISHANIM. Let’s reach out to all the girls who are feeling bad and give them a lift, remind them that they are special too, but perhaps the school that they think fits them best is not in their best interest. GOMLEI CHASIDIM, that’s who we are. All the challenges that we are presented with are directly from Hashem, but if we are handing down the verdict we had better do it with kid gloves and yiddishe sensitivity. I’ve been down the rejection road, and today I thank Hashem for it every day. But no one should have to suffer this kind of public embarrassment. WE ARE KILLING THEM, WHY?