The White House has informed the Associated Press that President Bush is planning to lift an executive ban on offshore oil drilling.
In a Rose Garden statement to be delivered at 1:30PM on Monday, the president plans to lift the ban. But by itself, the move will not lead to more drilling off America’s coastline.
Congress must still lift its own legislative ban before offshore drilling can happen.
White House press secretary Dana Perino says Bush is acting now in hopes of spurring Congress to act. So far, lawmakers have shown no interest in doing so.
(Source: AP)
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Bush is the greatest numbskull who ever sat in the White House. I guess he found one more area he can ruin before he leaves office. Offshore drilling will ruin our beautiful oceans and beaches and WILL NOT affect the price of gas since the problem is how the Bush plan, if there was one, has made our dollar nearly worthless, and that will remain the same. Secondly, with such companies like Exxon claiming, at the time of obscene gas prices, the greatest profits of any corporation in the history of the world, why should their greed stop? Bush hijacked our country for his clique and I cannot wait to see him shipped back to Texas.
We should all thank the President for taking executive steps to increase america’s energy.The sentiments expressed by #1 is a product of years of brainwashing that the extreme left has instilled in many peoples minds.
veryinteresting – Have you forgotten Carter (ym’s)? Talking about the worst President…
Offshore drilling will produce more oil, causing oil prices to drop, but even more importantly reducing our reliance on foreign (read: Arab) oil.
Exxon has a right to make as much profit as they can. Exxon does not control oil prices.
#2 and #3. Please do not pigeon hole me in any political ideological camp. I am independent and I do not fall into lockstep with the thoughts that prevail in our community as a whole. I also do not inherit my views from what my neighbor says or the conservatives or the liberals. You dont have to agree with me, but I will not second guess your views as being a product of anything other than your own critical thinking, if in fact you do put your own thought into your political views. Thank you.
“veryinteresting”, we Yidden have a lot to be grateful for. “Joseph”, we have to wait and see if Congress will follow the lead that the President is taking.
Not sure if my previous post took, so I apologize for any repetition.
to #2, Every thinking conservative knows Bush is a disaster, economically, militarily, domestically, and in all foreign policy and strategy. And #3, while Carter is one of the worst five presidents of all time, it’s under Bush, not Carter, that Israel has severely faultered in her strength by way of American, covert manipulation AND it is under Bush that a conference was called for in Bethesda, Maryland to discuss arab rule in east Jerusalem, heaven forbid. Carter’s stated love for the arabs during the hostage crisis back in the day and his love for them today, pales compared to Bushs’ actions regarding our military rules of engagement and lack of real support for Israel from the beasts that will not let her be.
To veryinteresting: People like you will, chas v’shalom, put barak hussein obama in office. Bush has been one of the best leaders we have seen. Can you imagine how many thousands of people would love to find some dirt on him? But they can’t because he’s a normal person unlike our last president. So don’t come with your ridiculus “we want our beaches, boo hoo” argument.
I am assumig you don’t have any kids because otherwise you would have tuition bills to the sky. SHAME ON YOU!
veryinteresting,
I am afraid I have seen the numbskull and it is YOU!
Please explain how drilling “will ruin our beautiful oceans and beaches??” Let me teach you something about the world and its curvature (read: HORIZON) which may be too “high” for you but I will try anyway.
I will use the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge (connects Brooklyn to Staten Island) as an example. Did you know that due to the height of the towers (693 ft) and their distance apart (4260 ft), the curvature of the earth’s surface had to be taken into account when designing the bridge — the towers are 1+5⁄8 inches farther apart at their tops than at their bases.” (This is from Wikipedia as well as the MTA website.)
Shtel zich fuhr, the VNB towers are only 4260 feet – or .81 of a mile – apart and they had to take the earth’s curvature into account. Oil rigs are placed MANY MANY MANY MILES off shore, far enough out that if would be IMPOSSIBLE for you to see it from the beaches. IT WILL NOT RUIN THE OCEANS OR THE BEACHES. This is just another of the environmentalist wakko lies being spread.
You also have a problem with companies like Exxon making money. Did you know that the oil companies use their profits to find more oil and to do what businesses are SUPPOSED to do? Let me ask you, the govt is taking WAY MORE MONEY in taxes on your gallon of gas than the oil companies are making and what are they doing with it??? NOTHING!!!
Veryinteresting, get your facts straight and stop drinking liberal kool-aid.
#1 (numbskull): How will the ocean be “ruined”? And which “beaches” is a yid frequenting anyway? You actually think OFFSHORE drilling will be happening on the beach? It will reduce our Arab oil dependency. Time to start drilling Alaska’s ANWR and other areas!
i dont know how much of a solution to our current oil crisis will be affected by removing the off-shore drilling currently in rule. we have to eliminate our dependance on foreign oil. we have to learn to make ourselves more less oil dependant.
some cars or many have to come off the road .less travel will become the name of the game .if our suppliers recognize that we mean business they will drop prices themselves recognizing that our industries are changing.
Even if they don’t get oil for a few years, it will still have a phsychological effect on the speculator market that will bring the prices down already now.
veryinteresting —
“Every thinking conservative knows Bush is a disaster.”
Wrong. Thats the misinformation you have been fed by the mainstream media, and “critically thinkingly” bought into.
“It’s under Bush, not Carter, that Israel has severely faultered in her strength by way of American, covert manipulation”
Factually wrong again. America, under President Bush, has taken the least active role in Mid East diplomacy than under previous Presidents.
“It is under Bush that a conference was called for in Bethesda, Maryland to discuss arab rule in east Jerusalem”
Jerusalem being negotiable stems from the time of the Clinton administration. Does Wye mean anything to you? Recall Arafat being offered part of East Jerusalem by Barak, under Clintonian pressure?
Please post to the article and not to my comments. Many of you have given me some predictable, knee-jerk reactions that I won’t argue with. Some of you have not been nice and brought up comments outside the scope of the topic like who would care about our beautiful oceans and beaches. It is no sin to enjoy Brooklyn AND the nature that Hashem has created for us to enjoy. Further, how dare someone question what I have been through to put my kids through Yeshiva financially and from teachers less that fit to teach over the years. Thank heaven, they are wonderful, beautiful, and I could not be more proud of them.
If the offshore drilling begins, heaven forbid, time will tell, but some of you don’t have to get nasty, right?
I forgot to add, I hope Obama does not get into office either. But since he will, let’s hope for the best.
veryinteresting, you are swallowing the drive by media stories without even thinking.
As far as “Every thinking conservative knows Bush is a disaster,” granted there are things that the President is NOT conservative on and we knew that before. We are certainly better as a country with Bush 43 than we would have been with Al ” The Tree Hugger” Gore or John “F Student” Kerry (who by the way served in Vietnam. In either one of those cases, their foreign policy and the disdain for our Military would have CHV led us to be called the United States of Americstan.
Re “It’s under Bush, not Carter, that Israel has severely faultered in her strength by way of American, covert manipulation,” wasnt it the Bush administration that “allowed” (derech Hateva) the Israelis to actually DEFEND themselves over and over. They have almost constantly stayed quiet when EY went and kicked some yeah and then “stopped” a few days later when the USA said OK enough. This is more of a problem of the Izzys because one day they could tell the USA to take a flying leap and they will protect themselves.
You also forget the fact they were messed over by the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION with Wye etc. It should also be pointed out that Ehud Barak offered Arafat Yemach Sh’moy – under Clinton pressure – a nice chunk of Yerushalayim but they didnt want it.
There is not much of an arguement that we rely too much on FOREIGN oil however the true issue at hand is that we have the oil domesticly in Anwar, in the Rockies, or just off the coast but the lib environmentalist wakkos out there wont let us drill for OUR OWN RESOURCES. We have enough oil in those places to tell the Arabs to drop dead!
We need to DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW, so we could SAVE MONEY.
Iwouldn’t even waste my time to respond to veryiteresting. He’s ajoke from A to Z. Bush’s numbers came down after Katrina. Big shpiel. A few jealeous guys who can’t fargin Karl Rove’s major winnings keep on spewing this dirt. The day will come when Rove will be forgotten and Bush remembered. For Afganistan, Saddam, 7 great economic years( there is always a recession every few years, besides the point how he picked the economy up after 9-11), crime numbers, Israel, (no he didn’t pressure to much, he wasn’t there till last year!). Lets not forget Homeland security department, getting more cooperation bet. FBI, CIA, the Pentagon National inteligince, etc. Do I need to go on?
One comment worth commenting on is that the ruining of the beach is not necessarily a matter of visibility. There currently is activity going on offshore, commercial mostly, that years back, before legislation was passed, was poisoning the water and killing fish. Many of the current politicians we are all told to vote for were/are part of that legislation that has given NJ a beautiful ocean-area ecosystem. Offshore drilling is a heavy weight type of activity that may need to be kept in check. Oil will want even GREATER profits to pay for their exploits and as long as the value of the American dollar sits like a weight in the bottom of that ocean, gas prices will not go down. Further, tourism along the Jersey Shore brings in great revenue that you benefit from. So, do I want a ruined ocean? Do I want to help Exxon’s get richer? Do I believe a HUGELY devalued dollar will bring lower gas prices when these companies need revenue to drill? I like the Savage plan better. A barrel of oil from Mexico for each illegal. Mexico has it. It helps us and it makes honest people out of illegal Mexicans who are participating in theft of monies and services they are not entitled to.
Joseph –
Item 1. Every thinking conservative…..
You wrote, “Wrong. Thats the misinformation you have been fed by the mainstream media, and “critically thinkingly” bought into.”
It is not misinformation that home forclosure rates are at a record high, near 33%, shaking the American dream of owning a home. It is not misinformation that revovling credit card debt is equally at a record high. It is not misinformation that our rules of engagement in Iraq are beyond questionable, if not the cause of conflict between our military leaders and our political leaders. It is not misinformation that the American dollar has been so weakened that all aspects of American life have become a financial hardship GREATER than when Bush took office.
Conclusion: Looking at the quality of life, overall, the Bush administration is hardly conservative or you must conclude that conservative positions do not work. And please spare it’s the democrats. In PART it is, but it is the neocons who are exploiting our country for their own profit. If you were out in the working world you would see the charts of how corporations and mom and pop outfits are either going belly up or hurting, with the threat of going belly up.
Item 2. It’s under Bush, not Carter…
You wrote, “Factually wrong again. America, under President Bush, has taken the least active role in Mid East diplomacy than under previous Presidents.”
There are no facts to your position and what does Carter have to do with anything? Even Clinton, who is a despicable man, but not among the 5 worst presidents, is not an out for Bush being responsible for America’s COVERT manipulation of Israel. Actually, threatening Israel to back out of Lebanon a few summers back when they were making headway against the missiles being lobbed into Israel was not so covert. Bush is not what he tells you he is. We go back to the critical thinking again, Joseph. Do not take him at face value. America is so involved with Israel, it has cost Israel lives. And Bethesda, MD., arab rule in East Jerusalem, was under Bushes advisement. No?
Joseph, you are trying to justify your feelings from what you are told. There is no meat to your responses to me, just posturing.
very interesting-
what are you thinking???? we need oil prices to go down…. offshore drilling will only help us! Living on the west coast, i realize that while propaganda states that it will ruin our beaches and is 100% bad, lifting this ban will only help us as the drills we now have are worse than what we would be putting in!!!
also, what bias are you being brainwashed with! what has the world come to, ranking presidents based off of one bias, one idea, and not critical thinking. What other alternative did we have? Bush was the best and only option to take. And he won, fair and square…. stop being a poor loser- the liberals lost BOTH of the elections!
veryinteresting –
Item 1.
I got news for you. The President doesn’t control the economy. In fact it is Congress that has far greater input on economic matters. Additionally, the economy goes in cycles. There are booms and there are busts. No matter who the President is, the cycles will happen. It is not possible to maintain an economic boom indefinitely.
Our rules of engagement in Iraq and Guantanamo are appropriate in dealing with these Islamofascist terrorists.
Conclusion: Bush 43 is a good President.
Item 2.
Jews and Israel? Bush has been Yidden’s best friend in the Oval Office since at least Ronald Reagan. There was no “covert” undermining of Israel. That is a figment of the imagination.
Making Jerusalem a negotiable platform began under Clinton, at least as early as Wye. By time Bush was in office, it was a diplomatic fact that Israel agreed to negotiate Jerusalem, and America was not going to be more Israeli than the Israelis.
It is you who has bought into the constant media bombardment propagandizing the views you have espoused.
To Joseph, Mark and a few others: It is plain to see your emotions are more charged than your facts or logic. Of particular note is the complaint that I am a liberal, kool aid – drinking environmental wacko, who is influenced by the drive-by media. LOL. Well, I contend many of you are influenced by the OTHER drive-by media, namely the Johnny Come Lately talk radio hosts. If I wanted to listen to parrots, I would go to a pet store. The funny part is you guys ditto all the worst of the talk show hosts..the Limbaugh guy, the Oreilly fellow, etc.
Just to touch the tip of the iceberg, funny how the President does not control the economy, UNLESS it was Reganomics kicking in during the bountiful Clinton years. Funny how people dont see how Bush is any different for Israel than the rest, whether it comes to Jonathan Pollard or threatening Israel to stop its ascent into Lebanon once it was making headway or even asking his secretary of state to head up a conference on making East Jerusalem under arab rule. Even arabs knew better than Bush and signed up in droves for Israeli citizenship under such an idea. And while it is terrible for Obama to want to talk to the Iranian Lunatic, Bush has already been talking to Abbas, a lunatic in a suit. The only difference is one already has blood on his hands and the other is gearing up for it, heaven forbid.
Bottom line, offshore drilling will not make the gas companies lower their prices for us. It will not happen. Taxes will be built into the price of gas charging us for their expense to drill.
Finally, it is disappointing that many of the posters here can sit and learn at the expense of others who cannot sit and learn, and while they learn about discputes all day and night from the greatest masters of all time about hair splitting decisions and differences, and pride themselves on the wonderfulness of who they are, when it comes to talking about offshore drilling, with a fellow Jew, they get nasty.
What is it that all about?
To those who have been rude. I mochel you and will move on to other things.
veryinteresting,
If you are so worried that drilling for oil ruins the oceans and the beaches and kill the fish, so how could you in good concience fill up your tank at the gas pump? Where do you think that gas is coming from? Saudi Arabia, Venezuelia, Russia, and all the other drilling countries DO drill in their own oceans, and are poising the water and killing fish, and it doesn’t bother you?
To each and every one of you GW Bush bashers out there..the man is a decent loyal American…not perfect but his heart and actions are in the right place. G-D help us all if Mr. Obama makes it to the White House and the Liberals take over America. I support my President and off shore drilling, we must rid ourselves of the dependence on Arab oil period!!!!!!!
re the post of the prez low poll numbers:
Congress’ (controlled by the libs) numbers make the president’s numbers look like no one disapproves of him.
Are their numbers OUT of the single digits yet?
veryinteresting —
Where have I mentioned, let alone quoted, any talk show host or pundit. My points are the result of the critical thinking you so acclaim. Nor have I been rude to you anywhere in this conversation. These points are being made by you to take the limelight off the failed policies you are espousing.
The bottom line remains indisputable. On a comparative basis, Yidden have had no better friend in the Oval Office than George W. Bush in a very long time. If there ever was a goy that was an ohaiv yisroel, it is he.
As far as offshore drilling is concerned, you again make the economic folly of thinking that gas companies CONTROL oil prices. They do not. It is market driven. What offshore drilling will do, is increase the oil supply, putting downward pressure on the market price of oil.
P.S. President’s do have some say in the economic outlook obviously. i.e. They can pressure Congress to pass economic legislation. But Congress has ultimate control over any economic legislation. Reagan’s tax lowering policies are a proven economic success. The so-called Clnton boom you refer to, began just before he took office. He inherited it. And just before he left office, a recession developed. That was his legacy to his successor.
P.P.S. One thing you are correct about, is that on economics W. is no conservative. Just look at the crazy Medicare drug expansion he championed costing the economy billions in government money.
The idea that a country that accounts for 25% of the world’s demand for oil but less than 3% of the world’s proven reserves can drill its way to energy independence strikes me as mathematically impossible. The key is to develop technologies to let us use less of the stuff. The engines in our cars are based on 100-year-old technology — would you want to use a 100-year-old computer?
invest in oil!