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1. So, just pointing out a flaw in what should be elementary logic that I noticed above:

   The article states, “In an undated video posted online, Greene floated a conspiracy theory that falsely suggests that the 2017 mass shooting that killed 58 people at a country music festival in Las Vegas could have been a false flag operation to build support for gun control legislation.

   ‘How do you get avid gun owners and people that support the Second Amendment to give up their guns and go along with anti-gun legislation?’ Greene said in the video. ‘You make them scared, you make them victims and you change their mindset and then possibly you can pass anti-gun legislation. Is that what happened in Las Vegas?’

   Gosh darn it, where the hell did she even come close to suggesting that the shooting was a false flag operation staged to build support for gun-control legislation. As far as I can tell, she was referring to the brouhaha which FOLLOWED the shooting!

   Now, I don’t know anything about this woman. Perhaps she truly is nuts or evil or what have you. Perhaps she should be suspended from all committee assignments. Perhaps, if this is possible, she should be expelled from Congress.

   However, I would like to see some proof.

   And, to quote our old #senile_buddy_in_the_white_house, “here’s the thing” — When I don’t know if something is correct or if, for instance, certain purported tweets and the like actually exist, and I don’t have the time to search them out, I rely on the following very logical hypothesis: If the article or person claiming the existence of said tweets, etc., attempts to provide proof to their assertions… AND PRESENTS STUPID NON-EVIDENCE as his most damning exhibit, I know to move on.

2. Compare that to Pelosi who has her picture taken with the squad.

3. I have read on this website that Rabbi Avigdor Miller declared that Jews should always vote Republican. The rabbi knows Torah way way way way way better than me, but I have, nevertheless, long doubted his advice on party choice, particularly the notion that Jews should always vote for a single party. I know American history, and I know parties change.

   Given all this, does the apparent acceptance of Congresswoman Marjory Taylor Greene by Congressional Republicans give any of you staunch Republicans any pause about the party you so stauchly support?

   (Unrelated question: Most of the Greene’s I know are Jewish. Are there any Jews lurking in some upper branches of the Congresswoman’s family tree? Ironic, but possible.)

4. The GOP opened the door with trump, nazis and white supremacists are now being elected to Congress. Thanks.

5. What the Left is doing is 1000x worse

6. Wow, what a lot of Democrat propaganda from the AP and its willing accomplice YWN.

   First of all, yes, Greene is clearly some kind of nut. Not the ideal member of congress, which is why the GOP opposed her in the primary. But she won the primary, and is now a member of the GOP caucus, and it owes her the same loyalty that the Democrats give their nuts. And while she may be a nut, compared to at least 15% of the Democrat caucus she is a perfectly rational genius, a regular Ms Spock.

   Nothing she believes is even close to the nuttiness of thinking the USA landed on Mars, or that Guam is at risk of overbalancing and tipping over. Let alone the Russia hoax, the “nice people” hoax, the “swallow bleach” hoax, the “police gunning for blacks” hoax, “hands up don’t shoot”, and all the other things the MAINSTREAM Democrats claim to believe.

   “The real cancer for the Republican Party is weak Republicans who only know how to lose gracefully. This is why we are losing our country.” This is undeniable. The GOP is not going to get any credit for throwing Greene under the bus. The Dems will not let up in their lies and criticism, for even one minute. How many times must we see that happen before we learn that it’s what will always happen. Rejecting your own members for minor matters like this only weakens the party and takes it further away from majority. Save any criticism for the 2022 primaries, and in the meantime put up with her and back her up, the way the Dems do with their nuts.

   QAnon is not a cult or a group, it’s a silly meme that some stupid people seem to have taken seriously. It’s weird but mostly harmless, which is more than can be said for “black lives matter” and all that goes with it, which has half-destroyed our country with the active support of Democrats including Biden, Harris, and Pelosi.

   So she’s “liked” or “retweeted” some strange things. I dare you to go through the “like” and “retweet” history of a dozen randomly chosen Democrat members of congress, and not find worse examples. They’ll give you the excuse that “liking” and “retweeting” do not necessarily indicate full support or agreement. Greene is entitled to the same excuse.

   In response to a post raising the prospect of hanging former President Barack Obama, Greene responded that the “stage is being set.”

   If she actually believed that there were active preparations to arrest 0bama and Kerry and try them for treason, that shows a weird disconnect with reality. But it’s not as if they’re not guilty, and don’t deserve to be hanged, and there’s nothing wrong with calling for that to happen. I am calling for it right now. If there were justice in this country everyone involved in the Iran deal would have been convicted by now, starting with Barack Hussein 0bama, the worst president since Wilson. At any rate, she did not call for violence, she called for a legal trial of criminals. What’s wrong with that?

   Another video captured her confronting Parkland, Florida, school shooting survivor David Hogg.

   David Hogg is a piece of garbage who deserves confronting. He’s not a “survivor” in any meaningful sense. He was present on campus, that’s all; he was never in any danger. If he’s a “survivor” then I “survived” a terrorist attack in Israel, just because I was close enough to hear gunshots, which is closer than he was.

   The article doesn’t say what she said to him. There were some incorrect rumors floating around about him, but none of them were anything to get upset about, they just weren’t true. Believing them isn’t wrong, just a sign of being misinformed. Which still makes her a better human being than he is.

   As for her speculation about the Vegas shooting, who says she’s wrong? More than three years later we still have no idea what the shooter’s motives were, or what exactly happened. The investigation seems to have shut down completely with no answers. It’s entirely possible that something is being covered up, and many people believe what she does, because it’s a somewhat reasonable explanation. It makes more sense than any other explanation that’s been offered. Which isn’t saying much, but still. The only actually reasonable attitude to take is that we simply don’t know, and can’t draw any conclusions, but that’s not satisfying to many people, who insist on guessing. Well, her guess is one of the better ones.

7. Oh, and her alleged “antisemitism” seems to rest entirely on a post that mentions Rothschild, Inc. Now it’s true that for 200 years antisemites have targeted the Rotchschilds, but that doesnt’ make any attack on them antisemitic. It is possible to make accusations against them, even nutty accusations, without even thinking about the fact that most of the family is Jewish. Making a nutty accusation against a Rothschild can be an indication of antisemitism, but it’s not conclusive. And doing so against Soros or Bloomberg (let alone Steyer, who isn’t even Jewish) is not an indication of antisemitism at all.

8. @Milhouse: YOU ARE FREAKEN AWESOME! I was laughing the whole way through. You’ve gotta post more long tweets… I love your points. Very, very well-stated!

9. @huju: Just curious, you want Republican Yidden to take pause because of Greene, but you don’t take pause because of freaken Rashida Tlaib? What — no seriously, what — is wrong with you?

10. @Milhouse:
    “I am calling for it right now.”
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11. “If Republicans won’t police their own, the House must step in,” said Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., who is sponsoring the measure to remove Greene from her posts on the House education and budget committees.
    Wait, isn’t she the tzadeikes who was caught trying to rig the Democratic Party nomination to favor Hilary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, and had to resign from her position as Chairwoman as a result? If the Democrats can’t police their own, the House must step in, I think.

12. Huju: Given all this, does the apparent acceptance of Congresswoman Marjory Taylor Greene by Congressional Republicans give any of you staunch Republicans any pause about the party you so stauchly support?

    Not even a tiny bit. I accept her for who she is. Someone with the right ideas, but a bit credulous and not the most rational or best informed person in the world. I hope she gets primaried in two years, but in the meantime I support her 100%.

    (Unrelated question: Most of the Greene’s I know are Jewish. Are there any Jews lurking in some upper branches of the Congresswoman’s family tree? Ironic, but possible.)

    That is almost as weird as some of the things she’s said. If most of the Greenes you know are Jewish, it can only be because most of the people you know are Jewish. There’s nothing uniquely Jewish about the name, and the vast majority of Greens, Greenes, etc. in the world are not Jewish, just like the vast majority of Whites, Blacks, Browns, and other color names.

    George Zimmerman became famous only because Al Sharpton jumped to the conclusion that he must be Jewish. If he’d gone by the name Jorge Mesa nobody would ever have heard of him or of the vicious thug who tried to murder him.

13. One more thing: Steve King did not “express support for white supremacists”.

14. John Hinderaker has a nice piece about this issue. I can’t post the link here because YWN doesn’t allow it, so I am going to copy and paste the whole thing. Sorry for the length; I’d post a link if I could. I agree with everything he wrote here:

    ————- begin article by John Hinderaker ————–
    In November, the previously unknown Marjorie Taylor Greene was elected to Georgia’s open 14th Congressional District seat in a landslide. Now, after being in office less than a month, she is the object of a hate campaign by the Democrats, who are demanding that she be stripped of all committee assignments, and preferably kicked out of the House. It is reported that the Democrats’ press arm is trying to make Greene the face of the Republican Party.

    What exactly has she done? Greene’s Facebook page apparently is a disaster. Even before the election, Politico investigated Greene on behalf of the Democratic Party and found Facebook videos that expressed “racist, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic views.” That was Kevin McCarthy’s characterization, not Nancy Pelosi’s, and Greene was denounced last June by the Republicans’ House leadership. But Georgia’s voters apparently were unimpressed.

    More offenses have come to light. Six days ago, CNN reported breathlessly:

    Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent Democratic politicians in 2018 and 2019 before being elected to Congress, a CNN KFile review of hundreds of posts and comments from Greene’s Facebook page shows.

    This is based on Greene’s having “liked” comments on her Facebook page that accused Democrats like Nancy Pelosi of treason, and contemplated the penalties therefor. So she is in the same category with a great many Democrats, who baselessly accused President Trump of treason for four years. While some of what Greene did is obviously indefensible, CNN’s perspective is quite different from ours. Thus:

    In one Facebook post from April 2018, Greene wrote conspiratorially about the Iran Deal, one of former President Barack Obama’s signature foreign policy achievements.

    Heh. I am on Greene’s side on this one. She gave this quote to CNN:

    Over the years, I’ve had teams of people manage my pages. Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views. Especially the ones that CNN is about to spread across the internet.

    It is hard to take that response seriously. Still, I suspect that Greene’s main offense is her stalwart defense of President Trump, and her vote, along with many other House members, to reject the Electoral College ballots of two states. It is her unabashed Trumpism that the Democrats are most eager to discredit.

    Greene is already facing calls to leave the House for her role in fanning the flames of the Capitol insurrection earlier this month after she objected to the election certification process and falsely insisted that Trump would remain president.

    After Democratic Rep. Jimmy Gomez called on Greene to be expelled from the House for her role in the insurrection, Greene condemned the violence at the Capitol and falsely accused “Antifa/BLM terrorism” and Democratic politicians of stoking the insurrection.

    “Insurrection.” Right. Led by the leftist with the fur hat and the horns.

    As far as I know, because it wasn’t just a “like” but rather her own post–at least, this is what has been reported–Greene’s worst offense was when she attributed California’s wildfires to a space ray controlled by the Rothschilds. Or something like that. It could be a joke, except that it isn’t funny. So I assume she more or less meant it.

    So, to put it mildly, Marjorie Greene is not our sort of Republican. Still, what to make of the Democrats’ campaign against her? A few observations:

    1) The Democrats want Greene expelled (or, at a minimum, barred from serving on any committees) because of things she said before she took office–statements or “likes” that were indisputably protected speech. I don’t know whether there is any precedent for such a sanction. I doubt it. It seems to me that such extreme measures should be reserved for actions taken while serving in the House, not previously as a private citizen. The grounds for expelling Greene were mostly known before the election, and yet the voters in Georgia’s 14th District elected her, overwhelmingly. I don’t think it is up to the Democratic majority in the House to determine that the voters were wrong.

    2) The worst of Greene’s statements suggest that she may be anti-Semitic. If true, that is a terrible thing. But if we are going to expel anti-Semites from the House, Greene is hardly first on the list. Democrats like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, and no doubt others if we assiduously study their Facebook pages, are way ahead of her in line. Again, the question of when anti-Semitic statements have been made is relevant. Greene has been spotless since taking her seat in the House, while Omar and Tlaib have used their pulpit as representatives to spew hate. So, if the House is willing to expel Omar and Tlaib or bar them from committees, next we can take up the question of Marjorie Greene. Not before.

    3) The Democrats’ case against Marjorie Greene largely consists of the claim that she is a conspiracy theorist. Fine. If we are going to expel representatives who promoted conspiracy theories, let’s start with the Democrats who propounded the insane conspiracy theory that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the 2016 presidential election. Once all of those Democrats have been expelled or deprived of their committee assignments–that covers pretty much all Democrats, including the House leadership–we can take up the question of whether Marjorie Greene promoted unfounded conspiracy theories.

    4) The Democrats suggest that Marjorie Greene has somehow been a proponent of violence. That claim is doubtful at best, but it is true of quite a few Congressional Democrats. How many have accused President Trump of treason, the penalty for which is death? How many have condoned, and even encouraged, violent Black Lives Matter/Antifa riots that have killed somewhere between 25 and 30 people?

    I would be curious to know, too, how many Congressional Democrats have “liked” others’ violent social media posts–the standard that is being applied to Greene. How many “liked” one or more of the tens of thousands of tweets by Democrats that included the hashtag #Rape Melania? That hashtag trended with more than 32,000 tweets. How many Democratic members of Congress liked or retweeted one or more of those 32,000? Any chance Politico will look into that?

    5) The question of committee assignments is a good one. Nothing in Greene’s past suggests that she is unfit to serve on the Education and Labor or Budget Committee. On the other hand, we have the grotesque example of Eric Swalwell, who carried on an affair with a Chinese spy while serving on the House Intelligence Committee. And, not only that, he lied to the American people about secret documents to which he had privileged access. Once Swalwell has been expelled from the Intelligence Committee, on which, astonishingly, he still serves, I am willing to take up other cases. Until then, forget it.

    The case of Marjorie Greene is an interesting one. On one hand, we obviously wish that Georgians had elected someone else. On the other hand, the Democrats’ campaign against her is cynical and hypocritical, and offers an opportunity to expose the Democrats’ own corruption of the House. Which I have tried to do in this post.