First Amendment lawyer Ron Coleman, an Orthodox Jew who is part of the Trump legal team, gave an update to all his followers on Twitter about the latest developments.
“There isn’t any serious question about whether or not there was wide-scale fraud. Anyone who says there’s no evidence of it (fraud), doesn’t know what evidence means, or is gaslighting you”.
Coleman slams anyone who refers to Joe Biden as “President-elect”.
The video below speaks for itself:
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Every legal challenge has been thrown out. Pitiful infantile losers.
Tell him to blast the Agudath Israel at Agudah.org
Man of reason & wisdom:- כל-הכבוד to you Ron Coleman for pursuing the unadulterated אמת
I’m pretty sure last time around they tried everything to oust the president, including impeachment.
“People who are not afraid of the truth of the truth don’t threaten…
– you’re going to hear from us.”
I rest my case.
Thr Republican Lt Governor of Georgia stated publicly that he has seen no evidence of widespread fraud. Republican PA Senator has said he has seen no widespread evidence of fraud. Trump and his lawyers are endangering our great country due to sick political considerations. It is clear that there is no way that Trumps legal challenges and lies will change the outcome of the election. Those that suppprt his lies are damaging America and will one day need to give a cheshbon hanefesh for their actions.
Funny how all the Trump people were yelling about following daas torah last week and now ignore it when the Agudah has stated the obvious.
The only widespread “fraud” was Trump having the US Postal Service “lose” hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots cast for Biden in Philadelphia and probably lots of other places.
The system to vote is rotten. These Mail delivery clerks , which about 25% are a bunch of low class hoodlums who throw the mails like garbage , they are now the honest trust worthy mail carriers , so with all respect the system is total corrupt , by the way Covid 19 is the biggeset cause – So these Chelemer Kahal postpone this vote fot a better TIME COMMON SENSE , maybe in the M…………………….
Why are you commenters above all so worried about this recount and evidence brought? What is it that you are so fearful of? If everything was done correctly the first time as you state- there is nothing to be fearful and Biden will win. Or is there some fear in your mind that this may not be what happens when all the votes are scrutinized that you can’t see past your blind driving venomous hatred? After all are news anchors the ones who call elections or is there a process that has to do with state legislatures and courts if necessary? I see no reason to fear and I would like to challenge any reasonably minded person to explain the issue. After all isn’t that part of why there is time between the elections and the inauguration to properly count and get to the correct result? Why the rush to compromise on the counting properly?
With serious lawyers like Mr. Coleman representing the president, who needs Rudy?
So are upstanding conservatives like Ben Sasse, Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski and Larry Hogan all gaslighting?
Please name just one election official Republican or Democrat who will backup claims of evidence of widespread fraud.
If you have a case to make by all means do so but your little clip is just name calling without any hard evidence.
And who exactly is threatening the recount? Please explain. Do you mean the people in the pick up truck who allegedly tried to attack a vote counting center in PA?
Yiddish has 60 words for “fool.” Mr. Coleman is one of the reasons for so many of them.
I’m not one to comment on YWN, but there is very much misinformation being circulated on this issue. See https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/an-election-day-bridge-too-far/ to understand why people are getting so upset about this. There is definitely something fishy going on. Whether or not there is a real case will be determined in court, but there’s more to the story than just Trump being whiny or stubborn
This video comes across as thuggish and is a scary warning for us ALL how far Trump and his team will go to keep his grasp on power. Nothing wrong with a recount or verification that people voted are actually alive, provided that the swing in numbers could potentially make a differecne in the outcome. But we DO know what “evidence” is and all specific allegations so far have been disproved. Even if Trump’s policies may be better for Jews than Biden’s, consider that the only long-termed thing we’ve earned over the 4 years was a reputation for hating more than half our fellow countrymen. Good luck getting support from the next melech chadash. Do you want a country like Iraq, Venezuela or Cuba? Even if you get the policies you want from Trump now, with a destabilized democracy (again, if there’s been known fraud, we’d have examples that would still be standing) and by hyper-poloarizing your issues (like Israel) you’re likely to lose it all anyway down the road. Let Hashem lead, have emunah.
Charlie,
You really should start a gig in stand up comedy
You’re hilarious!
Hope he got paid up front, otherwise he’ll never see a dime from the deadbeat Trump
@golfer.the last part of “ur going to hear from us” was to the ppl who threatened the lawyers..is way i understood it..
Eerie PA postal worker who alleged to have observed fraud and whose claims were highlighted by Lindsey Graham recanted on his claims during an investigation by FBI agents.
30 former Republican members of Congress including Tom Coleman called on Trump to recognize Biden as President-elect.
Pence met with Republican Senators today and provided no evidence of fraud.
Which begs the question which side is truly gaslighting?
@crazyk
is Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky, shlita enough daas Torah for you?
the law says biden is not president
@golfer
good point. but I like this angry video. Oftentimes victims of crime are so embarrassed they do not even file a police report.
This is wrong, one should be fighting against evil and for what is good.
I am glad we have some frum jews with guts stand up to these democrat lavans
Apparently senile Burisma Joe contradicts delusional morons who deny Democrat fraud.
https://youtu.be/BRZEs9BRGK4
Consider how poorly the Democrats did in elections for Congress. If there indeed was widespread fraud on their part, and they still did so poorly, they’re not smart enough to run the country.
Actually, forget the country. They’re not smart enough to run a grocery store!
Ron you sound like a mobster. You fit right in with Trump’s circle of associates.
Would be awesome to see this “piece of garbage” lawyer sit in jail with the rest of trumps crew.
One would have to be rather naive to believe that there was no fraud. The germane questions are how much, and whether it was enough to affect the outcome of the election. I’m afraid that thus far, much as it were otherwise, the Republicans do not appear to have made a terribly compelling case. I certainly hope that this will change very soon. The matter must be properly investigated.
There would appear to be considerable hypocrisy on both sides concerning this matter. After branding Trump “Literally Hitler”, demonizing his supporters as essentially Nazis (and now actually compiling enemies’ lists of Trump supporters for retaliation); declaring that he is “Not Our President!”, and doing everything– included pursuing the at-best highly dubious “Russian collusion” and impeachment attacks– to undermine his Presidency, the Democrats now call for unity and healing. Moreover, behavior on the part of Republicans at present that would appear quite similar to that of the Democrats during the aftermath of the 2000 Presidential election, is now declared unpatriotic and worse by said Democrats. Republicans, on the other hand, have a record, in past elections where the respective roles of the parties were reversed, of attacking Democrats with the very same rhetoric and accusations that Democrats are now using against Republicans.
Yet another instance of what Vladimir Lenin coined, Who, Whom?. Or, to put it into more Talmudic terms, Whose ox is being gored.
Wait a second – isn’t this the same president that claimed four years ago that there were 3 million illegal votes? He’s had 4 years and all the powers of the federal govt to prove his case from back then, and also to make sure it wouldn’t happen again. So, what’s the story? Four years ago it was made up? He made it up also now? Or he just could never prove what happened, and couldn’t get his stuff together to prevent it this time? Fairy tales…
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Was there voter and election fraud? One would have to be either naive or disingenuous to suggest that there was none. But how much? Was it enough to effect the outcome of the election? Those are the germane questions here. Thus far, I’m afraid, it does not appear that the Republicans have made a terribly compelling case. I can only hope that this will change very soon. Certainly, the matter must be thoroughly investigated.
There would appear to be considerable hypocrisy on both sides here. After branding Trump “Literally Hitler”, demonizing his supporters as essentially Nazis (and now actually compiling enemies’ lists of Trump supporters for retaliation); declaring that he is “Not Our President!”, and doing everything– included pursuing the at-best highly dubious “Russian collusion” and impeachment attacks– to undermine his Presidency, the Democrats now call for unity and healing. Democrats moreover now condemn President Trump and his supporters as unpatriotic for behavior that would appear quite similar to that of the Democrats during the aftermath of the 2000 Presidential election. On the other hand, in past elections where the respective roles of the parties were reversed, Republicans have a record of attacking Democrats with the very same rhetoric and accusations that the latter are now using against the former.
Yet further instances of what Vladimir Lenin coined, Who, Whom?.
@ babyjar. As a follower of daas torah you should listen to what the rabbonim actually say. Agudah sent a letter in the name of its rabbonim , which includes Rav Shmuel shlit”a) congratulating president elect Joe Biden on his win. I imagine you will stay honest to your commitment to daas torah and follow their lead of accepting reality.
To CTLawyer: I hope Coleman was not paid up front. He needs to know more about his client’s mendacity. But you are nicer than me.
Response to Yochi:
“If everything was done correctly the first time as you state- there is nothing to be fearful and Biden will win….I would like to challenge any reasonably minded person to explain the issue.”
In an ideal world I would agree with you. But the president’s behavior patterns and world history tells us that he is testing the waters for a coup, regardless of the outcome of investigations or court battles. Just yesterday he fired the pentagon heads and replaced them with loyalists. Love his policies or not, he’s stoking some serious fears our country has never seen.
Love the self contradiction.
“People who are not afraid of the truth don’t threaten …” And then in the same sentence he says “you think we gonna hear from you? Your gonna hear from us.”
I’m also an orthodox Jewish lawyer. I have actual experience with election law and dealing with election fraud. Will you post a video from me if I make one? Or you only post when the video follows your anti-democracy narrative?
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chareidi stupidity, the only “piece of garbage” is you and your fellow Marxist Democrats who spread disinformation and lies on this forum.
chareidi amiti (fake name, obviously):
Only a rasha or someone with questionable yichus would wish that on any Jew, particularly one who is defending himself and his boss from threats.
(Unlike in the Zionist paradise…) In this country, people have the right to not be threatened, and Mr. Coleman responded that he would exercise his legal rights to ensure the same.
What a moron this guy is. He says if you are not afraid of truth you don’t threaten your adversaries and then he goes on to do just that. I guess he is afraid of the truth.
Show the evidence of this widescale fraud rather than joining the sheker train and making yourself disgusting to God.
Strongly suggest that all those who believe there was massive fraud read this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
takahmamash, it tells a lot about you if you use NYT as a “news” source. How dumb one must be to quote Der Stürmer of 2020. The same NYT that denied the Holocaust.. No wonder Democrats are so dumb.
This videw clip does not seem to contain any information or explanation – only a threat, a pointing finger and a menacing look. Is this what we have stooped to?
What Chillul Hashem. For what ? Money. Why do we Jews have to have our noses in everything. I’m sure Ron is an intelligent knowledgeable GD fearing Jew and human being. Why sell your soul to a Rasha and a Buffon Ron? The Donald had his day in the sun, now GD wants Biden to be his Shaliach. Let it be.
Allan, the real ‘Chillul Hashem.” are fakers like you who stand on the side of falsehood who pretend to be “GD fearing Jew”
“so worried about this recount”
Nothing to worry about. The only recounts will be in Georgia and Wisconsin. There could be one in Nevada, except that Trump won’t pay the cost of the recount because his real concern is money. A recount in any other state would be illegal.
“pretend to be “GD fearing Jew”
Since when does an allegedly “GD fearing Jew” support someone like Trump who is a complete moral degenerate in both his personal and public life?
“Show the evidence of this widescale fraud rather than joining the sheker train and making yourself disgusting to God.”
There isn’t any. And Coleman knows it.
“The same NYT that denied the Holocaust.”
Yet another lie from you. NYT actually ran a lot of stories on the Holocaust, as news became available. The problem is that they were almost all buried on page 13 or so rather than on the front page. This has all been extensively documented.
“if you use NYT as a “news” source”
Not a single one of the officials interviewed by the NYT has denied what the NYT printed. Some have publicly confirmed the validity of the results, in particular the Secretary of State in Georgia, a Trump-supporting Republican.
Please return to reality. Biden won. It wasn’t even that close.