President Donald Trump said Thursday that people who vote early by mail should show up at polling places and vote again if their ballots haven’t been counted, a slight walk back from his comments a day earlier when he suggested people vote twice to test the mail-in system.
Trump claims, without evidence, that the Nov. 3 election will be awash in fraud because so many voters will mail in their ballots to avoid being exposed to the coronavirus at polling sites.
The president said people could mail in their ballots as early as possible and then follow up with a trip to the polls to see whether their mail-in vote was tabulated. A top election official in North Carolina, where Trump initially broached the topic on Wednesday, discouraged voters from following Trump’s advice.
“If it has you will not be able to Vote & the Mail In System worked properly,” Trump said in a lengthy tweet. “If it has not been Counted, VOTE (which is a citizen’s right to do).”
If the mail-in ballot gets to election officials after a person votes at the polls, the in-person vote will be ignored, he said.
“YOU ARE NOW ASSURED THAT YOUR PRECIOUS VOTE HAS BEEN COUNTED, it hasn’t been “lost, thrown out, or in any way destroyed.”
Voting by mail is meant to replace voting in-person during the pandemic, but Trump doesn’t trust the mail-in system. Having mail-in voters show up at polling places also could create more confusion for election workers.
Trump first made the suggestion during his trip Wednesday to Wilmington, North Carolina.
North Carolina’s attorney general, Democrat Josh Stein, said it was outrageous for the president to suggest that people “break the law in order to help him sow chaos in our election.”
“Make sure you vote, but do NOT vote twice!” Stein tweeted. “I will do everything in my power to make sure the will of the people is upheld in November.”
It’s a felony under North Carolina state law to vote twice. Once someone has cast an absentee ballot, that person may not change or cancel it, or decide to vote in person on Election Day, according to the state election board’s website.
Karen Brinson Bell, executive director of the North Carolina State Board of Elections, noted in a statement that it’s illegal to intentionally vote twice. She said there are numerous measures in place to keep people from double voting, including electronic poll books at every early voting site with records of who has already cast a ballot.
She urged people not to show up to the polls on Election Day if they have questions about the status of the ballot they already mailed. “That is not necessary, and it would lead to longer lines and the possibility of spreading COVID-19,” she said.
Instead, voters should check the board’s website to find out if their ballot was accepted, use a tracking tool that will soon become available or contact county elections board with questions about the status of their ballot.
Attorney General William Barr, asked during a CNN interview about Trump’s suggestion, said he didn’t know the election laws in every state, but that he agreed with Trump’s belief that mail-in voting is susceptible to fraud. It’s like “playing with fire,” Barr said.
In response, Michigan’ attorney general, Democrat Dana Nessel, tweeted: “Hey folks. Attorney General Nessel here-top law enforcement official in Michigan, for those keeping track. Don’t try this at home. I will prosecute you.”
States that have relied on mail-in ballots say there is little evidence of fraudulent activity. Multiple studies have debunked the notion of pervasive voter fraud in general and in the vote-by-mail process.
The five states that relied on mail-in ballots even before the coronavirus pandemic — Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah — have said they have necessary safeguards in place to ensure against fraud and to prevent hostile foreign intruders from trying to influence the vote. More states intend to rely more heavily on mail-in voting this fall because of the pandemic.
Barr cited a report from more than a decade ago from a commission led by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker that said vote-by-mail was vulnerable to fraud. But the commission pointed out in a statement in May that it had found little evidence of fraud in states such as Oregon that had sufficient safeguards.
(AP)
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“Trump claims, without evidence”. This is the Democrats with byliines’ favorite rhetorical trick. As if they ever demand evidence from Democrats, no matter how outrageous their claims, and as if evidence is needed for what is blindingly obvious and everyone knows. Absentee voting has been notorious for decades for being rife with fraud.
Just a few years ago even Democrats were admitting it, back when they were opposing Voter ID on the strange grounds that in-person voting is not where most of the fraud happens. That is true, but no reason to oppose ID. We should have ID for in-person voting AND crack down on fraud in absentee voting. But at least then they conceded that absentee voting is where the real fraud happens. Now they deny it.
> If the mail-in ballot gets to election officials after a person votes at the polls, the in-person vote will be ignored, he said.
How would anyone know to whom the in-person vote went? I thought that as a matter of law, there must be no way to trace who a filled-in ballot belongs to? (the mail-in vote is suppose to be designed with a double envelope, so that the inner envelope – with the vote in it – has no marking showing who voted).
> The five states that relied on mail-in ballots even before the coronavirus pandemic — Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah — have said they have necessary safeguards in place
Yeah, and it took them like two decades (in small steps) to get that to work. The new states had a handful of months to get the system in place, and there is no indication they are following the lessons from the states that took all those years for a learning curve.
Not sure what comprises “evidence”. A recent audit found that 68,000 pieces of political mail sat ignored in a post office for a week. And there have been quite a few prosecutions of mail voter fraud in recent primaries around the country. But I guess that’s not evidence…