It’s been 20 hours since the horrific moment when two gunmen opened fire on a Kosher grocery in Jersey City, which left three civilians and a police officer dead.
The Jersey City Mayor on Monday night tweeted that the store was “targeted”. On Wednesday morning, Mayor Steven Fulop doubled down on his claim and tweeted:
“Last night after extensive review of our CCTV system it has now become clear from the cameras that these two individuals targeted the Kosher grocery location on MLK Dr – the 2 JCPD officers that were on a foot post one block away immediately responded/engaged and prevented the perpetrators from leaving that location and harming any further civilians. At this time we have no credible further threats from this incident but out of an abundance of caution we will be increasing our police presence in the community.”
With the Jewish community – literally – under attack for the past three years, with one hate crime after the next, the fear is sinking in. Making matters worse, is the slow response in giving the community valid information.
Why can’t we be told the identity of the shooters? Why did two individuals arrive in a rented U-Haul truck, armed to the teeth, and open fire as if they war entering a war-zone?
Where is the Attorney General of NJ? Why can’t the community receive basic information in a timely manner? Nearly 20 hours since this brutal attack, and NOTHING? Leaving the community in the dark for 20 hours is wrong, dangerous, and causing fear.
One just needs to look at this tweet and understand the level of concern in the Jewish community, when an anti-Semite can call this horrific shooting “karma from the stuff ya do with people houses” while the bodies are still warm.
The community is demanding an answer, and we want it now:
Who attacked us, and why?
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Time to come home….Eretz Yisrael.
If you ask GadolHadorumph, we’ll hear that this wasn’t a target on Jews and that it was just coincidence. Various leaders and politicans (many of whom are Democrats) tell us that the tragedy was indeed focused on Jews. We must never forget that we truly are in Galus, and there are some sick people out there that simply hate us because of who we are as a nation, nothing more, nothing less.
Agree with you TGI, but just want to correct you on one point.
The Jews in America are not a “nation”. They are a religious minority group.
So that makes the niftarim kedoshim.
The end is near for the Jews in america. get ready to pack your bags.
Yeaston, it will unfortunately take a lot more than a few tragedies like this to get the Jews in the US to come home to EY. Jews in the States are quite comfortable with the life they have, and if it means being subjected to antisemitism, it seems that they’re willing to pay the price. Dearly. They’ll even quote a few halachic opinions that they’re better off living in the US or UK or U-name-it. (I never understood why, when Rav Chaim Kanievsky שליט”אclearly stated that it is a מצוה דאורייתא to live in EY, there wasn’t a mass exodus of Yidden to EY. I guess he’s opinion and stature are dependent on what we want to hear from him.) So as the wave of antisemitism increases and the progressive liberals make their way into your government, please batten down the hatches. You’re in for some rough sailing ahead.
Does anyone have more information as to the grieving families these קדושים left behind?
Yeaston – why is Eretz Yisrael safer? It’s more of a galus there, which proves how wrong the zionists are. More yidden are unfortunately attacked there than any other country (pro rata)
please coe to eretz yisroel and dont wait any longer.
i know its hard but all of us anglos will support you and help you!
This self hating Jew, Mayor Fulop (white democrat) has made disparaging comments regarding the Frum taxpaying community that live in HIS city in the past. Perhaps his indifference to Orthodox Jews “moving in” only encouraged more hatred by those who don’t need much of an excuse to hate us.
1) BDE for the niftarim
2) Refuah Shleima for the injured
3) free speech is one thing but saying Jews deserve to be killed for buying houses and reinvigorating a community? Feh
4) KShomron – see the new Executive Order naming Judaism a nationality as well as a religion
Actually, Trump just declared Jews in America to be a “nationality”. Not that this changes whatever the technical “metzius” is but at least legally in America it makes it easier in some cases to fight antisemitism.
I’m not from those who think we are ch’v heading in the direction of the holocaust in the United States.
But over the past few months, I’ve come to the conclusion that we are heading towards what has been the norm for most of our time in Golus: Random flare-ups of anti-Semitic violence and frequent government harassment.
The United States has been for the most part a wonderful exception to that norm. It seems to me like those days are over.
According to NBC news the 2 murderers are members of the “Black Hebrew Israelites”, some of whose members are so anti semitic and so anti white, (look them up), this will surely be classified as a bias crime pretty quickly.
I think this post is very wrong. We all want answers. But “we want it NOW”?! I think we need to understand there is an investigation that needs to be completed? It borders on chutzpah to make demands as in this post. I’m sure law enforcement would love to provide more info, they probably just don’t have it yet! I mean, just a few hours ago they were saying it began with Detective Seals, may he RIP, attempting to approach these “bad guys” at the cemetery. I believe they have backed off of that story entirely at this point. So things have been very fluid, we need to have patience, as much as we’re very concerned and NEED answers.
Makkos Hoshech again, and again, and again–my only surprise is they were actually capable of “planning” this attack. That’s not their MO.
without focusing on these horrific murders for the moment- the jewish community has to do a major PR JOB in dealings with non Jewish neighbors as they increasingly seek to expand to more affordable housing. it is causing a lot of negativity from locals. we all understand the problems of affordable housing- but there are some who have used aggressive tactics that have gained very negative publicity in the news . frum Jews are very noticeable -especially the chassidish groups- and remain very visable-they don’t B.H. disappear into the masses, but–it is a problem-no doubt-and with the rise of anti-semitism as it has never been before in USA, we need to work on positive images and PR. it’s not the first time we have been targeted recently, and I’m afraid to think what’s ahead…….
@TGIShabbos Why do you have to speak lashon harah
The identity of the shooters was released late last night and is available at secular news outlets.
This story makes me shudder because just the other day I was thinking about the Hypercacher Massacre 5 years ago. That also began with the murder of a Police Officer, Clarissa Jean-Philippe, several miles away. Hashem arranges coincidences and patterns for a reason. I learned that tragedies recur in order that we should recognize this. “According to Rambam (Hil. Taanis 1:1-3), it is a positive commandment of the Torah for every individual to cry out and search his ways at a time of national calamity, for G-d visits calamities upon Israel to inspire each Jew to repent for his misdeeds. If someone fails to recognize that tragedies occur through an act of G-d rather [than] through happenstance, he is considered cruel,because he will not be motivated to improve his behavior. As a result, G-d will beset Israel with more troubles, until all are motivated to change their ways.” (Artscroll Sefer Yehoshua, Perek 7, pasuk 6, footnote) (I am posting this again. I posted earlier on the original story)
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/hudson/2019/12/11/jersey-city-shooting-attack-targeted-kosher-supermarket-mayor/4396124002/
KShomron how do you expect hundreds of kollel families to pick up and move here when they cant even afford airline tickets
Rachelrena you giving out diras for cheap?
we need Mashiach thats all
RRR – and when Mashiach comes, then they’ll have money for airline tickets?
Let them take out loans, and with the money they’ll be saving in their children’s tuition in EY, they’ll have money to pay back the loans.
Then they can join the already thousands of Kollel families in Israel who are also leaving very modestly.
Time to come home to Eretz Yisroel. Mashiach is on the way, and in just under 10 year the majority of Jews will be living in Israel for the first time since destruction of the First Temple 2500 years ago.
the jdl are not the best answer to everything, but it’s safer to be feared and hated, than just hated. especially if the police can’t or won’t do their job.
There are severe ramifications to calling out a group and it turns out to be wrong.
The local, state, and federal police are involved. Let them do their job accurately and correctly.
Causing them to rush and feel pressured and then they put out wrong information will only cause more problems.
We know what happened, we know it was targeted, we know the police are providing security.
As to who did it, let them do their job.
It’s ONLY been 20 hours. Investigations take time.
Arnie
you are attributing to god the characteristics of a sadistic and incompetent melamed.
i refuse to believe that the creator of the universe cannot do better than that.
Who are these fools calling for a return to Eretz Yisrael? The State of Israel is the cause of this. When the IDF snipers shoot nurses and children, it comes back to haunt us. When the military police arrest random people in Hebron, when they put children in headlocks, it comes back to haunt us. Zionism was the primary cause of this murder.
Israel10 your trolling is way out of line.But as a resident of Israel,I must say that the call to come to Israel isn’t a total solution. Frum yidden and our Torah values are almost hated as much here in Israel by segments of the population (particularly by certain vocal politicians) as by anti-semites in America.And with another round of elections coming, the frum population will have to brace ourselves for another round of offensive hatred and targeted abuse.
Israel10 – no one is calling for YOU to return to EY.
You can stay in the US and rot.
The call is for Torah Yidden to return.