President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani on Thursday walked back comments from the night before in which he maintained that he had “never said there was no collusion” between Russia and members of Trump’s 2016 White House campaign.
Giuliani issued a statement aimed at clarifying a Wednesday night CNN interview that appeared to leave open the possibility of improper contacts during the campaign, in light of court filings in the past year that have detailed ties between Trump aides and Russia.
“I represent only the president, not the campaign,” he told The Associated Press in an interview. “And I can only speak of what I know, and that is that I have no knowledge that anyone on the campaign illegally colluded with Russia. But I can only speak definitively about the president, as he is my client.”
In a separate statement Thursday, he said that “there was no collusion by President Trump in any way, shape or form” and that he had “no knowledge of any collusion by any of the thousands of people who worked on the campaign.”
That was an apparent reversal from the television appearance in which he said, “I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign.” He had previously denied any collusion.
The next video shows what led up to the statement:
It was not clear whether Giuliani in the television interview was reflecting a new position or talking point from the Trump legal team or was making a strategic attempt to get ahead of potentially damaging findings from special counsel Robert Mueller, who has been investigating potential coordination between Russia and the president’s campaign.
Either way, the comment reflected a stark turnabout from long-standing denials by the White House and Trump advisers of improper collusion, and it underscored how the president’s lawyers have adapted their message and defenses as additional revelations have emerged.
In November 2016, for instance, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks said, “There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign.” Trump himself has repeatedly insisted there was no collusion during his successful White House run.
In a Fox News interview last May, Giuliani described the idea of Russian collusion as “total fake news” and said, “Unfortunately, it has become the basis of the investigation. Mueller owes us a report saying that Russia collusion means nothing, it didn’t happen.”
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On Wednesday, Giuliani told CNN that even if some people working on the campaign did something wrong, the president was not part of any collusion.
“There is not a single bit of evidence the president of the United States committed the only crime you could commit here, conspired with the Russians to hack the DNC,” Giuliani said, referring to the Democratic National Committee.
The comments on collusion came after Giuliani was confronted with prosecutors’ allegations, detailed in court papers earlier this month, that former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort had lied to investigators about sharing campaign polling data with an associate whom U.S. authorities have tied to Russian intelligence.
Giuliani repeated to the AP on Thursday that there was no collusion “connected to Russian hacking” and that Manafort’s sharing of polling data had nothing to do with the campaign or the president.
So far, Mueller has charged 33 people, including five Trump associates and 32 Russians accused of interfering in the election either through hacking or through a hidden social media campaign aimed at swaying American public opinion.
Giuliani also said the Trump legal team had told Mueller that the president would not answer any additional questions from prosecutors. Trump has so far answered only a limited number of questions in writing. Trump’s lawyers have balked at the idea of a face-to-face interview with Mueller’s office or having Trump questioned about potential obstruction of justice or other actions he took as president.
“We will not answer any further questions from them,” Giuliani told the AP. “We made a definitive refusal. And now they have not gotten back to us in more than a month.”
William Barr, Trump’s nominee for attorney general, told the Senate Judiciary Committee this week that he wouldn’t interfere with a Mueller request to subpoena the president to compel his testimony “if there was a factual basis for doing it.”
Giuliani reiterated his desire to have an early look at whatever report Mueller produces at the conclusion of his investigation.
“We do think we should be given a courtesy of seeing it,” Giuliani said. “We should see it before it is made public. Not to change it, but to prepare our own report as a rebuttal.”
(AP)
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7 Responses
A complete liar like his boss. And he said, “collusion is not a crime” even if it happened. Rudy’s final legacy will be tied to a degenerate lying adulterer.
On the contrary, he’s saying what he knows. He was not part of the campaign, doesn’t represent it, doesn’t know what it, or anyone involved in it, did or didn’t do, so he can’t rule anything out. He represents the president, and has presumably asked his client about it, so he can confidently say that whatever the campaign, or anyone who worked there, may or may not have done, his client did not work with the Russians on anything related to it.
He’s also completely correct that there is nothing illegal about a candidate or campaign working with people connected to the Russian government. It happens that Trump didn’t do so, but we now know that the Clinton campaign did!
Cuomo is a better talker than Guliani and successfully twisted the conversation to get him to say stupid things. He meant that he knows of no collusion. He doesn’t know what he isn’t expected to know. I heard the interview. Stupid.
Please remember that Mr. Giuliani is the New York mayor who called a press conference to announce that his wife had thrown him out of the Mayor’s mansion for being an adulterer, that he was moving in with his paramour, but not to worry because he had a certain type of cancer. My reaction was, “Good grief! What is this guy smoking?” No wonder Mr. Trump likes him. He only stayed legitimate because he was serving during 9/11 and acted as a focus for public reaction.
No one needs to help Rudy say something stupid and outrageous, he’s quite capable.
Milhouse-Rudy constantly brags about being part of the campaign and that he was there 24/7.
Midwest,
New Yorkers don’t care a darn about your National Enquirer’s tales about Rudy’s wife or girlfriends. He cleaned up a filthy, despondent city, ran the Mob outta town, cleaned up the graffitti, and streets , imposed the ‘broken window’ philosophy to make the place livable . NY, or for that matter, the Oval Office, isn’t the Vatican , we don’t elect a pope . Please stop hocking ah cheinik.
NO one has to coerce Rudy to make stupid comments or twist his words……he does so naturally. He seems to have lost much of his sharpness in the past decade. If not dementia, its clearly a slow downhill slide since each time he opens his mouth, he digs a deeper hole for his client (who is already shovelling on his own quicker than his lawyers can backfill).