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Big Carma:  A Bunch of Liars and Ganavim!


By Y Hofmann for 5tjt.com

The people against vaccinations and I appreciate that you have given equal-time with those who claim that vaccinations work.  I am also an anti-braker and I think that you should give us equal time as well.

Essentially, there is a huge group called Big Carma.  These are the car-manufacturers that claim that we should be changing our brake pads every two to three years.  This is a big lie designed by Big Carma in order to make money. Do not believe Big Carma.  Their recommendations are all lies Brake pads should never be changed because changed brake pads kill people.

Big Carma tells the world that there are warning signs to watch out for – when supposedly the brake pads are going.

  • Longer stopping distances
  • Low brake fluid—your brakes are worn out or you have a leak
  • Excessive brake pedal travel, with the pedal going almost to the floor before brakes engage
  • Brake pedal feels “soft” or “spongy” underfoot
  • Vehicle pulls to one side while braking
  • Pulsation or vibration through brake pedal or steering wheel while braking
  • Tendency for one or more wheels to lock up and skid while braking
  • Groaning, screeching, squealing, or grinding sound while braking

These are all lies.  We all grew up with cars that had longer stopping distance.  It is part of life no different than getting the measles.  Most cars that are 3 years old or more that are in accidents had gotten their brake pads changed.  Changing brake pads kill people.  They cause accidents.

HUNDREDS OF CASES

There are hundreds of cases, if not thousands of cases, where people had gotten their brake pads changed, and within 6 to 12  months they got into an accident.  Big Carma will dismiss this as anecdotal.

There is also a study that says:

The older a car is, the more likely its driver will die in a crash, says a research paper from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.  Older cars have had their brake pads changed more times.

It turns out that a driver of a car 18 or more years old is 71 percent more likely to die in a bad crash than the driver of a car three years old or newer.  A car 18 years or more is likely to have changed the braked bads at least five times.

The study showed that the risk to a driver in a vehicle 8 to 11 years old, for example, is 19 percent worse, and driving one 4 to 7 years old is 10 percent worse, than for drivers in those semi-new, 0-to-3-year-old cars.

Big Carma will tell you that there is no linkage between brake pad changes and accidents.  They will say that older cars naturally are more dangerous.  But we know the truth.

Anyone who doubts this article can read the study at the following website:  https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811825

So don’t listen to your mechanic and don’t listen to Big Carma.  Your mechanic is just as much a liar as those pediatricians that tell us to vaccinate our children.  Big Carma is just as bad as the Center for Disease Control.  They are all lying in this vast conspiracy to make money.

CHANGING OIL IS BAD FOR THE ENGINE

Oh and also there is another thing.  Changing the oil in your engine kills the engine.  Oil changes are also a big scam, by Big Carma.  In fact, Big Pharma and Big Carma are all the same.

Believe us.  We know what we are talking about much more than GM, or the CDC.  We have studied all of this.  The statistics are bogus.



24 Responses

  1. One needs to be careful using Purim logic to deal with real issues. It doesn’t convince anti-vaxxers and they can respond with car statistics.

    In 2017 there were over 37,000 automobile deaths in the USA (on average, over 10% of the fatalities involved children 16 or younger) vs less than 500 measles deaths that year.

    For sure if there are no contraindications, get a measles vaccine. Wear seatbelts, drive slower, stay focused, be alert.

    Next up – diabetes – exercise, lose weight, eat healthy, over 10% of deaths in the USA have a diabetes component.

  2. the difference is that while we know how cars work pretty well and break pads are a pretty simple thing the human body is extremely complicated and we don’t understand the effects that doing something to one part of the body has on the rest of the body and especially when it involves the brain science really doesn’t understand

  3. The article is pointing out how statistics can be spun to imply anything you want. And to the poster who claims “we know how cars work” – well, do we? In its ultimate scientific sense we need to know how quantum mechanics, relativity and string theory (among many other such exotic animals) combine to make all this work. You understand all that? This alleged “we know how cars work” simply means past experience shows that when you do “A” then “B” happens. The same hold true for vaccination and non -vaccination.

  4. The way that brakes work is not only known from past experience its simple to understand the brake pad pushes down on the wheel and stops it from turning when it gets worn down it needs to be replaced. vaccinations are based mostly on past experience (as is most medicine nowadays) and they don’t really understand all the ways it affects the body

  5. > Token

    “they don’t really understand all the ways it affects the body”

    And science does not understand all the ways that pressing on the brake affects the universe. As was a common saying a few years ago, a butterfly that flaps its wings in Africa could bring a hurricane to the U.S. We don’t know how every little action we take ultimately affects the universe. Ignoring that fact (of our lack of knowledge) and pretending otherwise does not change things. All of it is based only on past experience, not on an sort of absolute knowledge or understanding.

  6. Token says something typical of anti-vaxxers: “… the human body is extremely complicated and we don’t understand the effects that doing something to one part of the body has on the rest of the body and especially when it involves the brain science really doesn’t understand.”

    OF COURSE the body is extremely complicated, an OF COURSE there’s tons about it we don’t understand, BUT there’s also lots about it that we DO understand, and understand really well. For example, vaccines. We understand really, really, really well exactly how they work on the biochemical scale, how they prevent curable diseases, how they’re made, when they might work and when they don’t, etc, etc. Of course we don’t know ALL possible consequences, and of course we NEVER will, but that’s perfectly ok!! Health organizations keep tons and tons of documentation about consequences, etc. They follow millions of people who take a given vaccine and keep careful records about their side effects. When they discover serious side effects (that rarely occurs after a product gets final FDA, etc approval), those products are taken off the market. When side effects are mild (a rash, a fever, etc, almost always discovered early in development), warnings are attached. Even Advil and Tylenol have side effects, but we’re all ok with that given the pain relief they provide. OF COURSE vaccines have side effects, and we will likely never understand all of them, but their observed benefits greatly outweigh their observed harm.

    Just to compare, Token, do you eat sushi or use deodorant? The body is so complex and we don’t know all of the potential side effects of eating raw fish or of spraying chemicals (!) under our arms, so who knows, maybe they cause autism or cancer or alzheimers or AIDS!??! Maybe there’s a huge coverup in the fishing and deodorant lobbies to ignore these? Did our great great grandparents eat sushi or use deodorants?!?!!? But it’s ok, I think we’re all ok with it.

  7. If you are doing this, a far more effective way to prove the point would be to make the argument that smoking is, in fact, not a cause of cancer.
    One could make an impressive case, using most of the anti-vaxxer rhetoric, to make the argument that all the studies demonstrating the linkage between smoking and cancer aren’t conclusive. And, after all, no one realy understands what causes cancer anyways

    True cause-and-effect is difficult to prove (anyone here familier with Hegel, perchance?). Let’s remember – many Gedolim of yesteryear smoked incessently. The Shulchan Aruch paskens that it’s “shaveh lichol nefesh” and the Pnei Yehoshua says smoking is good for the digestion.

  8. So to conclude:
    If empirical evidence isn’t enough to define what’s the healthy thing to do, we should deny that smoking is unhealthy.

    If, of course, a common sense approach is sound, taking simple empirical evidence into account, (without discounting the fact that we don’t know much about the human immune system), it should be clear to anyone who avoids smoking as unhealthy that vaccines stop disease.

  9. It could be that hishtadlus is to follow what doctors say but unless someone personally knows exactly how the body works nobody should say that they know for sure it does not have any negative side effects and people who do not vaccinate are all dumb

  10. It’s a pity yeshivaworld decided to post this Purim Torah on a serious topic for both sides
    There are many Rabbonim in both sides….

  11. This is brilliant.

    I totally disagree with the people who didn’t like the joke (psst, they’re probably closet anti-vaxxers). This is EXACTLY how we need to respond to anti-vaxxers: expose them as the joke that they are. If they responded to statistics and empirical evidence, they obviously wouldn’t be anti-vaxxers in the first place. It’s a social phenomenon and social ostracism is how it will be solved.

  12. “There are many Rabbonim in both sides…”

    The real answer is “your own Rav” is the only one that matters, however to satisfy my curiosity can you put together 2 lists of these many Rabbonim, one list of the “for” and one of the “against”?

  13. Token, I think it’s wrong to conclude that people who do not vaccinate are all dumb. They’re not dumb, but are often very misinformed. It’s sad that the antivax movement is led mostly by people who don’t even understand how vaccines work. Imagine someone who didn’t know the difference between a Tosfos and a Tosefta leading a Torah movement — crazy, right? Would anyone on YWN care what they said? In our case, almost every person involved in the antivax movement doesn’t know the first thing about biochemistry, immunology, etc.

  14. @aaym
    this isn’t bashing rabbonim, it’s some much needed humor. humor doesn’t always mean disrespect to rabbonim involved, but can lighten a serious topic, like this one.
    this doesn’t take away from the seriousness of the situation at all

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