The following letter to the editor, appeared in today’s NY Post. The writer definitely has a valid point. Ever walk through the streets of Flatbush & Boro park on Shabbos, and see the dozens of signs which have fallen off the poles?
It’s amazing how every two months Councilman Simcha Felder comes up with another piece of sanitation legislation, like no restaurant flyers on your doorstep, designated times to sweep in front of your house and the latest – don’t feed the pigeons.
Yet Felder fails to legislate on the posters that line every street corner and lamppost across the entire neighborhood of Midwood.
Felder, if you care about sanitation, stop turning a blind eye to your own back yard. The laws are made for all to respect.
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its not normal the way everyone finds something to nitpick about everyone. could you leave the guy alone?! he does great work. if you cant fargin- then its just your own problem.
Why was it permitted to post this?
Since when is Mr. Felder responsible for all the sanitation ills in the City of New York? Last time I checked he is not the Director of Sanitation in the City of New York, but rather merely one of 51 city councilmen. His good work in correcting sanitation violations affecting our neighborhoods does not make him the point man for all sanitation criticisms. Rather than writing a critical letter to the editor, why not constructively make a legislative suggestion to Mr. Felder, who I am certain will be ”all ears”.
The title of this post is rather unfortunate.
His office also will not help to enforce the law regarding unnecessary use of sirens on ambulances, which might have impact on Hatzala.
State rules : lights and sirens only if it is a life threatening problem w/patient on the way to the hospital. Not because someone behind the wheel wants to be important.
What about NYC laws regarding noise?
H”K”B”H put the pigeons on earth. He didn’t put the flyers or sirens here.
Concerned resident near a hospital
Have a little patience. Let’s not do everything in one day
RIGHT ON !
I don’t know if I agree or don’t on this issue, but the title is very biased. A news site is supposed to report news not shape it. Who says it’s a “good reason”?????????????
Mr. Felder does not deserve the criticism for this. It has been against the law to hang these posters for at least 20+ years. (I recall a young Pirchei Leader that had to go to court for hanging Pirchei Agudas Yisroel Flyers on these poles.)
The criticism goes to the companies that provide this poster hanging service. I would even say the criticism extends to the entities that advertise on these posters, but I have to give them the benefit of the doubt that they would not knowingly break the law.
The posters on the poles and the resultant trash on the ground and blowing about peoples yards are a disgrace, and bring much “eivah” in the Flatbush neighborhood . It also doesn’t help to promote Kovod Hatrorah when pictures of our Gedolim are strewn all over the floor and gutter.
The sanitation department sends out special crews that go around to remove the posters, but they cant seem to keep up with the poster hanging industry.
I suppose that cracking down on this will adversely affect someones parnosa, but I would also suppose that if they stop this chilul Hashem with the right intentions that Hashem will provide them with sustenance from some other endeavor (Of course it is very easy for me to be frum on someone else’s “cheshbon”).
In Flatbush, the ONLY large signs that get posted on the light poles are for frum businesses, mosdos, various tzedakas, and jewish entertainment events. There is absolutely no non-jewish advertising like this that gets posted. I think it send out a very clear message – one that I do not wish to spell out on the Internet.
GOM
Dear NY Post reader thats anti posters,
B”H we don’t have access to TV so the signs on the st. are our source of nice visual ads for heimishe products shows,Tzedaka functions. better to have a little garbage on the st. than in your house!!!! (like the NY Post!!!)Theres far more important things to for S Felder (and you) to worry about.
“Theres far more important things to for S Felder (and you) to worry about.”
OH REALLY??!!
LIKE PIGEON DROPPINGS????????
I think that seeing rav chayim kanievsky’s face lying all over the streets is a bigger prioroties.
And now.
This is not lashon harah.
I just consulted with a rov.
Face the heat:
He will never fight for this law.
Know why?
When he runs for office, he will never be allowed to plaster his posters all over the streets.
E-A-T I-T B-U-D-D-Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
better question.
the poles belong to the city, right?
what gives kupat hair and vaad horabbonim the right to steal city property?
does rav kanievsky and the other rabonim whose pictures are all over this sign know about this?
does tha toldos avrohom yitzchok rebbe know that they are announcing his tish on every pole in flatbush?
stealing?
eh?
stealing in the name of tzedakah?
The last time I checked, the issues that Councilman Felder was elected for, by his constituents, is neither pigeons nor flyers. I think it’s more like helping with Housing & Tuition cost. We would love to see him fighting for the REAL issues.
to JO JO (#10)
R Chaim Kanievski would much rather have his pic on the streets than the NY Post in a Jewish house!!!!!Ask your Rov about that
It is standard procedure in Jerusalem and Bnei Brak to post huge signs on the streets announcing anything and everything. Anyone who has visited Eretz Yisroel is familiar with this. In fact, the City has built special poster walls to accomodate the posters, so that the poster hangers will not have to resort to defacing lamp poles and other public facilities. It works just fine. Councilman Felder: why not here?
Why don’t the people who put UP the posters take them down when the sale/event is over? Wouldn’t that solve a lot of problems?!
I have to agree with “Joseph (#3) and “Joli” (#7). “Councilman Felder criticized” would have been appropriate.
Maybe we could take a page out of Meah Shearim, and have billboards at strategic places to hang posters.
OY!!
Is this all we have to worry about? Or argue about?
Personally, I say bring on the pigeon pie. I hate pigeons…flying rodents (can someone PLEASE get rid of the pair nesting on top of my A/C??)
#16, by the time the sale day or dinner day arrives, the orig poster has already 3 layers of posters on it.
#10
“This is not lashon harah.
I just consulted with a rov.”
Who is the rov? Exactly how did you word your shaila? What were the rov’s exact words?
YW – arent you being sarcastic? I walk the streets of Flatbush almost every Shabbos. Here and there some signs fall off but I DONT see dozens of signs on the floor.
YW editor, you start to lose your objective credibility when you start to use your blog to rant about people and issues that personally bother you. My suggestion, leave the complaining letters for the Readers Write section of Yated, and just stick to providing us with news of interest to the Yeshiva community,which you do so well.
Those posters are big enough to be used for Korim Mats on Yomin Noraim.
Rabbosai,
JO JO is 100% right. It is a churban that these days all the flyers have gedolim pictures on it. They fall off the poles and the streets become a carpet and all these gedolim pictures get trampled on. Kids these days lose all the chashivus. My son had a sticker of R’ Elyashiv Shlita. He asked me if he could put it on the bumper of my car. It’s mamesh a bizayon. And yes, My Rosh HaYeshiva who was a Talmid Muvhak of Reb Aharon ZT”L told this to me when I was asking him about something else & he brought it up “derech agav.”
Rabbi Simcha Felder Has been a great help to yeshivas and the general jewish community. all he does is for the klall. He has helped our yeshiva in many ways.
Rabbosai!!!!!
Some dignity please!
Felder has done alot for the klal and deserves to be praised for his efforts. What is this- it’s one thing if you want to be involved in politics, bad mouthing all the shkutzim and prutzim.
But one of our own?!?! A man who is doing his best to help the Frum klal while maintaining a kiddush Hashem all the while- do we really have a right to malshin him like this.
Are you all so bored that you have NOTHING better to do then to slander a fellow yid who is trying his best to do his job for YOU!
I dont know who the Rav was, but as far as I know in SHMIRAS HALASHON even if lashon hara is publicized in the news, one is not permitted to speak it. We think we are Hakadosh Baruch Hu to give Felder his Din V’cheshban!!! Be asahamed!
Why not focus on the good he’s done- he is human and like you and me can be found with things for ppl to pick at. As well as good to be praised…
Let us not continue with another poiosonous word— the punishment on klal yisrael is gr8!
oh, ofcourse this is not pure loshon horah
Around Election Time the Candidates Seem To Forget About These Laws As Well
Felder is right. The pigeons are absolutely disgusting besides being unhealthy. I for one, was glad when I heard that Simcha is working on this. Why didn’t anyone take care of this issue sooner? Look at New Utrecht Avenue at the subways, you can barely touch anything as the entire area is coated with this unhealthy muck. Flying rats they are…
COUNCILMAN SIMCHA FELDER IS THE BEST HE WAS AND STILL IS THE BEST NYC COUNCILMAN WE EVER HAD HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB AND WE SHOULD NOT BE KNITY GRITY ABOUT EVERY SMALL LITTLE THING WE OWE COUNCILMAN SIMCHA FELDER A LOT OF HAKORAS HATOV AND YOU KNOW WHAT I EVEN THINK HE SHOULD RUN FOR MAYOR OF NYC AFTER MAYER BLOOMBERG I ENDORSE HIM 100% PERCENT AND IF EVERY JEW IN NYC WOULD VOTE FOR HIM HE HAS A VERY GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING IF HE STARTS OUT EARLY IN THE RACE, SO I THINK ALL OF US JEWS SHOULD TRY TO CONVINCE HIM TO RUN SO THAT WITH HASHEMS HELP HE SHOULD BE THE NEXT MAYER OF OUR GREAT CITY===NYC ==THANK-YOU!!!!