13 Responses

1. Why not. He’s self-made. Well educated, but not in business or law, and not at an ivy. Has nothing to do with creating the current economic crisis. Seems like a nice guy.

   Since the experienced people proved incompetent, try something new.

   His proposal to abolish the payroll tax is interesting.

   All the candidates are equally friendly to Jews and Israel. He’s a social conservative so we’ll get along with him fine.

2. Cain is a perfect example of these right wing teabaggers jumping from candidate to candidate with no idea of what they really will do. Cain’s tax plans have been ridiculed by even the most right wing economists with any intelligence and he cannot answer the most basic questions on foreign policy or national security issues. He simply mumbles the same sound bite answers to everything (“I will analyze the problem, find smart people and fix it”). He provides great comic relief and if he wasn’t the token Black Republican, he would be the guy in the back of the circus parade with a shovel and broom.

3. 2,

   You are foolish. I have no other way to say it. The FACTS are that the primaries/caucus season is 2 months away. We dont have to vote for the one who the liberal press wants to win. Unlike ObamaZombie Nation we have brains and we can use them to decide WHOM WE WANT AS PRESIDENT. In my case, in any election, I vote for the MOST CONSERVATIVE person.

   Pure Conservatism beats liberalism ANY time!

4. Gadolhadorah and neither can obama answer basic questions,
   and nation security issues. As far a security basically he took over Bush’s policies.Yes he will find smart people not czars that are given $528,000,000 to solyandara when they had serious doubts about the company and $530,000,000 to Fisker car company to build $100,000 electric cars in Finland. We need businessmen in the white house and congress
   not lawyers [70% congressmen are lawyers] who are not known to deal with their own money but rather clients money.

5. His tax plan is quite sound. Those who object base their objections by limiting their discussion to the income tax aspects. Cain proposes that the current 15% flat rate tax which is limited to the first $100K of earned income (and is therefore highly regressive be replaced by a 9% flat rate tax on all income – and that the current variable rate general income tax (the one we file a 1040 form form) be replaced by a consumption tax (meaning the more you consume the more you pay in tax so the millionaires pay more since they consume more).

   The payroll tax, which is dedicated to social security, medicare, and in another year or so, to Obamacare, is the primary tax paid by most people. You don’t feel it as much as the one paid on the 1040 since the payroll tax is taken directly from you salary and some of it is paid for you directly by the employer before you even see the money. ONCE YOU INCLUDE ABOLITION OF THE PAYROLL TAX in the equation, it makes Cain’s plan quite reasonable. The critics deliberately ignore this and act as if 999 was a substitute for the “1040” income tax alone. In addition, 999 means that general revenue will be supporting social security and medicare.

   The main establishment objection to Cain is that in the establishment view, all Blacks (like all Jews) are expected to be left wing Democrats dependent on government handouts, and supporting a liberal social agenda. There is a fear that many the many Blacks with strong religious ties might switch parties. While Jews not voting Democrat is important only in New York City, if less than 75% of Blacks vote Democrat it would make a different in over a dozen states.

6. Even if Cain’s fiscal ideas are sound, that is not enough to make him a responsible president. Think back to 9/11 and it’s aftermath, what kind of a president was America looking for then? The same as we need now, one who is knowledgable and experienced in foreign affairs and security. Cain doesn’t fit the bill. Vice President maybe. Newt Gingrich is the only candidate with the breadth of historical knowledge and experience in government to be able to lead effectively. Take a look at his Contract for America, a well thought out plan encompassing all aspects of presidential leadership.

7. Where is Charlie Hall haven’t heard from him in a long time. I miss him saying radical leftist liberal rubbish. Obama record is a disaster.

8. I understand why you don’t post my comments since I don’t pay you off like the “askanim” (ganavim) that launch some of these for profit tzadakas. But please learn english to better be able to moderate racism and dirty comments.

   I spoke this past week with a few gedolim about having the site be banned because of the obvious for profit nature and forum for sinas chinam and loshon hara as well as belittleing of talmidei chachamim. If you would like to respond my email is [email protected]

9. #2 Wrote:

   Cain’s tax plans have been ridiculed by even the most right wing economists with any intelligence:

   Well, Art Laffer seems to like it: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204346104576637310315367804.html.

   The pros on cons of 9-9-9

   * Widens the tax base
   * Eliminates loopholes, deductions, etc. (and all the politics that come with them
   * Eliminates hidden taxes
   * Creates clear, visible, easy-to-under stand tax system
   * Exempts those under the poverty level
   * Allows for the creation of opportunity zones (lower tax rates in the most economically depressed areas of the country)
   * Creates a more business friendly tax environment

   Cons

   * Some claim that the corporate tax may function as a value added tax (Cain disputes that charge – either way, it seems like a technical (as opposed to an inherent) problem, one that can be fixed by properly structuring the corporate tax)

   * Some fear that creating another revenue stream (aka national sales tax) will give congress more taxing power

   * Some claim that it will bring in less revenue (Cain and Laffer dispute this). Either way, it’s a mute point – if that is true then make it 9.5 – 9.5 – 9.5 or 10 – 10 – 10).

   * Some claim it’s regressive (Cain also disputes this). There’s some truth and some falsehood in this. Those below the poverty line are exempt (and may benefit with the opportunity zones). A lot of hidden taxes and unseen taxes will disappear. Used goods are not taxed nor or savings. On the other hand, the sales tax may hit some harder than others (although that may be balanced by the removal of the hidden taxes in the current prices of goods).

   * It will create a double-sales tax with BOTH a national and sales tax. Cain has rightly noted that this is not a real criticism. People will pay states sales tax regardless of whether or not 9-9-9 is implemented. His plan doesn’t create a new states sales tax. It doesn’t relate to sales tax at all. It simply replaces the FEDERAL tax system with a new one. This criticism is an unfair one.

   All in all, this is a serious, well-thought-out plan. There are pros and cons to it, but any ridicule thrown it’s way shows more about the one ridiculing the plan than the plan itself.

   P.S. When I note that Cain disputes objections to the plan – I mean he gives reasoned arguments for disputing the objections.

10. Gingrich has invited Cain to debate him one on one in what he calls a Lincoln-Douglas style debate, I think on November 5. I will look forward to a debate without the moderators and without the bickering and rehearsed sound-bytes, and to hear Gingrich’s critique of Cain’s idea.

11. To #6

    I also like a lot of what Newt has to say and like a lot of what I read in his contract. He also seems to have a solid handle on foreign policy and the need for a comprehensive strategy to fight global terrorism.

    And while I agree with your comments about Cain’s experience (or lack thereof) in foreign policy and government, I would a) point you to this article about his new foreign policy team: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/10/26/raising_cain_inside_herman_cain_s_new_foreign_policy_team and b) note that one of the things that is appealing about Cain is his successful career outside of government.

    Cain is running as a problem solver. His 9-9-9 plan falls in line with that position. Basically what Cain is saying is that I have a history of solving problems. The US has a lot of problems. Let me have a crack at solving them not from a political perspective but from a real-world success perspective.

    It has pros and cons.

    For me, Cain and Newt are the two most impressive GOP candidates right now.

12. Cain’s list of foreign policy experts still leaves me nervous. I don’t want a president who is learning foreign policy on the job. This isn’t like hiring an accounting department for a business, there is a lot more at stake here. The president should be a person who, himself, has foreign policy and security as a priority. As Gingrich has been saying all along, none of the candidates seem to want to talk about threats to American security. Jobs are a critical topic, but will become meaningless if one of our enemies manages a major terrorism attack.

13. To #12:

    Agreed – it is worrisome. Gingrich seems aware of the threat as well as gives the impression that he has an idea of how to deal with the threat.