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Yeshiva Graduate Nominated As US Attorney General


mukasey.jpgUS President George Bush has nominated Michael B. Mukasey on Monday to replace Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. “Judge Mukasey is clear-eyed about the threat our nation faces,” Bush said. “He knows what it takes to fight this war effectively and he knows how to do it in a manner consistent with our laws and our Constitution,” Bush said, standing next Mukasey at the White House.

Yeshivaworld has learned that Mr. Mukasey graduated the RAMAZ Yeshiva – and a spokesperson for RAMAZ Yeshiva has in fact confirmed to Yeshivaworld that Michael Mukasey graduated Ramaz in 1959. In addition, his wife Susan was a teacher and Headmistress of the Ramaz Lower School for many years.

He is also a prominent member of the Upper Manhattan Jewish community.

(Thanks to Nachum Segal for informing YW of this info.)



27 Responses

  1. This is so weird. I was just reading the wikipedia article on him and was surprised to see it said “Orthodox Judaism” under his religion. Didn’t even know he was Jewish.

  2. surprising, considering a definitely irish name. also, if he was the judge in the hamas-nik blind shiekh (abdul rahman) case, why didnt they object, like they objected in the yankel rosenbaum case that the federal judge was an ortohodox jew (or so they claimed there).

    also, for the record, chertoff (secy of homeland security) is also a yeshiva graduate, though he never claimed to be orthodox. his father was a popular conservative rabbi in elizabeth, and rav pm teitz was more than happy to have him in his yeshiva, to show EVERY jew deserves a yeshiva education. chertoff would have gotten the job, except for political reasons.

    yw’ers should remember that many jews are not conservative, and not reform, but care (somewhat) about their judaism. when asked, they claim they are orthodox, even though they may not be observant. we should WELCOME them to our shuls, even though they have difficulty saying kaddish (one case in my shul) or just sit in shul without davening (lets face it — that is their form of davening) (another case in my shul — we are more than happy to have both of them).

  3. see Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_B._Mukasey
    These guys have their finger on the pulse!!

    According to The Yeshiva World, Mr. Mukasey graduated the RAMAZ Yeshiva – and a spokesperson for RAMAZ Yeshiva has in fact confirmed to Yeshivaworld that Michael Mukasey graduated Ramaz in 1959. In addition, his wife Susan was a teacher and Headmistress of the Ramaz Lower School for many years.

    He is also a prominent member of the Upper Manhattan Jewish community.

  4. My personal feeling is that it isn’t always great to have a frum person in the public eye.

    While at times it may create a Kiddush Hashem, it doesnt always work in our benefit.

    Just my opinion, but I wish him Hatzlacha!

  5. Mordechai was also in the government of Achashverosh!

    I think it’s important that we have brothers in high positions like this. Hopefully they will also be looking after the interests of the jewish people.

    Sorry to change the subject, but why has no one been able to get Jonathan Pollard out of prison?

  6. MiMedinat HaYam — It sounds as if you doubt this man’s frumkeit – how dare you!

    Do you know him? Do you know anything about his Yerias Shomayim?

    I am told he is a memeber and involved heavily at his frum shul in Manhattan. That’s good enough for me…

  7. to chaimyankel:

    my last para was directed at yw’ers who have an aversion to “modern orthodox” yidden

    by the way, the igros moshe (and many others) have a serious pblm with lawyers prosecuting yidden. now he is “chief prosecutor”. not presented as criticism of hon mukasey.

    if he starts out with releasing yonatan ben malka pollard, i’ll definitely have no problem. does his shul say a misheberach for yonatan ben malka like my shul does?

  8. I think you are all missing the point.
    Here is another example of how friendly our dear President is towards the frum community. He realizes that the frum community votes overwhelmingly Republican (or at least that we indeed share common values) and finally there is someone that doesn’t lump us into one category with the liberal elite self hating Jews of the world (Remember Jim Baker).
    I continue to be impressed by this ohev yisroel and in its appropriate place in the machzir, am mispalil for him these yomim noraim.

  9. #10 Flatbusher
    Who cares if you shep nachas or not? He sounds like a mensch who spent time deceiding before taking the position.

  10. MiMedinat HaYam (#15) –

    I think it is important to note that the teshuva of Rav Moshe I believe you are referring to (IM – HM 1:92) deals with public auditors (if I remember correctly) – not prosecutors. The moser issue you refer to was much more problematic (per Rav Moshe) back in the times when judgment was preordained and reporting on someone – in this case, in an official capacity – would have resulted in certain punishment – even death.

    I believe a posek who comes out strongly on this issue against Jews serving not just as prosecutors, but as attorneys in general is Rav Menashe Klein in the Mishna Halachos, although I do not have the cite handy.

    If there is another IM cite please post…thanks

    Kol tuv –

    katan

  11. Wow were all getting very Talmudic over this. The basic point is that morals in this country are slipping and are unfortunately sanctioned by the courts. Now with this appointment hopefully this will cause a swing in the right direction.

  12. The president can, of course, pardon Pollard. If there is even a suspicion that the Attorney General is involved in the president’s delibiration, an AG who is active in Jewish communal affairs can only harm Pollard’s chances.
    Similarly with all other matters of Jewish concern, political reality will force Mukasey to bend over backwards so as to not be viewed as an agent for parochial interests.

  13. MeMidinat Hayam:
    Regarding your question in comment #4 where you asked why Mr. Mukasey was not asked to recuse himself from the Abdul Rahman case.
    Judge Mukasey was indeed asked to recuse himself from the case. As notes by The Wall Street Journal law blog:

    In 1994, a defendant in the World Trade Center bombing case filed a motion to have Mukasey remove himself from the case on the grounds that he practiced Orthodox Judaism and held Zionist political beliefs. Here’s the money quote from the opinion:

    Passing the historical curiosity that the standard El-Gabrowny advocates would disqualify not only an obscure district judge such as the author of this opinion, but also Justices Brandeis and Frankfurter, who would be barred from reviewing the case if they were alive and sitting today, each having been both a Jew and a Zionist, whether the presiding judge is an Orthodox Jew or a Zioinst or some combination of the two, or neither, is utterly irrelevant to this case.

    In the future, before you assume, please do a bit of research.
    Thank you,

  14. To:Ephraim- Where does it say that Judge Mukasey is going to be Chasan Berashis. Don’t most shules sell that kibud on Simchas Torah, which is weeks away?

    To MiMedinat Hayam- I am probably one of the few TYW readers that can say he learned Gemara with Homeland Secretary Chertoff in yeshiva. Although he was just over bar mitzvah age at the time, our Rebbe, Rabbi Eisenblatt(who had a shul on 18th & 50th in Boro Park years later)said to the class that Michael would one day be a Talmid Chochum and his learning level was far ahead of his chronological age. Well, history has proven him right but the chochma turned out to be not in pure learning but in Hilchos Pikuach Nefesh since his approach to dealing with terrorists and protecting our great country has been admirable if not evolutionary.

  15. to mishpat: is your license plate also mishpat? if so, i’ll see you sometime this week and identify myself.

    also, some shuls (esp “efficent” shuls that know how to fundraise, like kaj) decide months ahead who will be choson torah (unlike that shtibel in monsey that sold chasan torah on ebay a few years ago. remember?)

    to azetyn: i stand corrected. i saw a similar post elsewhere today. that the blind sheikh case also wanted mukasey out of the case.

    to charliehall: its strictly a presidential decision, not the parole commission. he didnt apply for parole because of some unusual rule that if rejected you cannot apply for years. there was a decision made not to parole him, even though no “official” application was made, so its a waste of time. and further, his lawyers are trying to get the file to make the application, but it was denied, despite their (the lawyers) top secret security clearance. (for more info check the official jonathanpollard website put up by his wife, the one with chuppah ve’kiddushin) its a political decision, not a merit decision. we all know that.

    to katan: there are two teshuvot. one refers to auditors who deal in prosecutions. specifically irs. the other deals with lawyers. both are extended by everyone else (except nitpickers who are looking for rationalize being prosecutors) to prosecutors. there are many halachic problems with lawyers, and they mostly decide to avoid their halachic issues.

    to towncrier: yes, we say mi sheberach for all of them (baumohl went to yeshiva ketana with me)

    to original: sen lieberman not only decided to stay out of the pollard issue he spoke against him. unlike, i must admit, the liberal shumer who did say pollard should be released.

  16. I just want to know when Senators Reid, Kennedy, Leahy, et al. start to attack him at his confirmation hearing, will he be able to claim that it is being done because of Anti-Semitism? If liberal women can respond with the pathetic saying of chauvinism, than Judge Mukasey can scream Anti-Semitism.

    I also remember very well the trial. He did an admirable job. Even the New York Crimes liked the way Judge Mukasey presided over the first World Trade Center bombing.

  17. to The Town Crier :

    all that homeland security $$$ and wtc claims $$$ was a scam on the american taxpayer in terms of govt grants to politicians and their friends. the fact is that the goyim know just as well (if not better, or rather, those yidden learned from the goyim) as certain yidden how to get those govt $$$, perhaps better than the yidden.

    so of course that $ is going to other states, etc. its not chertoff’s fault. thats how the game is played. get with the program.

    but all this is not YW business. or is it. you posted it first. (see troday’s daf yomi — modeh be’mikzat)

  18. Having only met his stepson, I’d assume the Hon. Judge Mukasey doesn’t wear his religion on his sleeve when acting in his job. He is known to be shomer shabbos/shomer kashrus. He has a rep as a fair and firm judge. I’d also assume the President would consult with his AG (no matter who his AG would be) on pardons (and other legal issues!) during the normal course of his winding up his office, and I’m sure Judge Mukasey will either recuse himself if he feels he’s too biased to give an unbiased opinion, or give the President an unbiased opinion on the case of Pollard. According to what I’ve read, an unbaised opinion would say he’s served a proportionately greater amount of time than anyone else accused of spying for an enemy, much less one who cooperated, and was accused of spying for an ally. The fact that he has been incarcerated so long just means everyone looking at the case beyond what would be a normal amount of time thinks the people before him must know something he doesn’t, and nobody wants to take the responsibility for a novel decision or one that seems to fly in the face of so many prior decisions made by supposedly knowledgeable people. Politically he may be a hot potato, which is the only reason he wouldn’t be pardoned, because its such a public event. From what I’ve read he’s not likely to be granted parole if he applies, and if he does apply and the board decides to put him on hold for another decade or more, it would make a pardon nearly impossible, so I think his supporters and legal counsel have determined his best bet right now is to wait at least until the end of Bush’s term to see if he gets a pardon. I doubt Judge Mukasey would push for this during his introductory period in his new position, but if he’s consulted sometime late next year, it might be possible, and I’m sure the decision-making advisors to Mr Pollard are calculating the timing to be just right as well. At this point we realize the best we can do is daven, as HKBH works miracles daily. Who would ever think a frum Jew would be in the AG spot at such a critical time? Or that a traditional Jew would be setting US economic policy? Or that we have obvious Jews on the Supreme Court again? These people are seeking to create a Kiddush Hashem. Let’s take our wins where we can and celebrate them.

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