ZSK

Ban UJM, Joseph and his ilk.

Way to slander Rabbanim and others who are not of your ilk during Elul. (Sarcasm)

@HaKatan

You don’t know what you’re talking about and are just spewing NK talking points.

You can answer to HKB”H after 120 for being a Sonei Yisrael.

@ujm

I got your point. I was being intentionally brief.

I’ll clarify:

1) There are linguistic rules to LHK – phonological, morphological and syntactic. They exist whether or not reading/pronunciation changed due to surrounding languages. The most basic rules can pretty much be derived from any other Semitic langauge that was wasn’t essentially a liturgical language for nearly 1900 years (which is what Hebrew for the most part was, from Churban Bayis Sheni until Ben-Eliezer).

2) Teimanim (especially Baladi) appear to have the most uncorrupted reading tradition (mainly due to their relative isolation). If we want a vague idea of what LKH is supposed to sound like, look at the Baladim. Speaking of Teimanim in general, HaKatan is 100% wrong about shmad – Teimanim and Sephardim absolutely use the “th” sounds in davening and leining (anyone who has davened at a Sephardic shul or learned in a predominantly Sephardic Hesder Yeshiva (like I have) would know this – Sephardim are far more precise with pronunciation in their leining and davening than Ashkenazim are and they make a point of being so (the exception to Ashkenazim being less precise is obviously those whose tradition is נוסח אשכנז מובהק).

3) The varying pronunciations all have errors and that’s because a variety of cultural factors, time + מנהג אבותינו בידינו (sociolinguistic factors). For Teimanim, it’s ג being read as /j/; for Chassidim, pretty much everything, but especially vowels (there is at least one Chassidish Rebbe (IIRC Vizhnitz), who said he’s never heard a 100% kosher Torah reading in his life); for Litvaks, it’s cholam, as it is for Galitzianers. Ashkenazim don’t differentiate between א and ע, ח and כ, ט and ת, which they should. For Sephardim in general, their vowels are from Arabic, not Hebrew.

4) Incorrectly reading words is a problem על פי הלכה and we know this. Again, I refer to מסכת ברכות and statements about not allowing those who cannot differentiate between א and ע to serve as a שליח ציבור.

5) We have our traditions and they aren’t going away and I never said only one tradition is correct. The differences (acutally errors) in pronucnciation obviously aren’t going anywhere. But that does not change the fact that there are linguistic rules and they should be followed (and those who בשיטה don’t should obviously go back to reading correctly).

6) I never addressed Modern Hebrew. I tend to follow the opinion of Rav Kook זצ״ל that Modern Hebrew is 100% פסול insofar as fulfilling a חיוב and that Ashkenazim should be reading per Ashkenazi tradition only (and the other traditions per their Mesorah only as well, obviously). Which is why, despite having lived in Israel for 15 years (and B”H having very good Hebrew), I still daven and lein in the Ashkenazi tradition I grew up with. But I’m a distinct minority.

7) My last statement was directed at the OP, not you, asking why he cares what Yiddish does with regard to its Hebrew component. Yiddish isn’t a Semitic language, so there is no butchering of Hebrew to be done.

@ujm

This may be the one time I will ever agree with HaKatan on anything, ever. His example is correct, and reading Hebrew incorrectly when Leining / Davening / making a bracha is absolutely a problem. Certainly it can put the fulfillment of a chiyyuv into question (why do you think the Gemara made its statements about the ability to differentiate between Aleph and Ayin?).

Lashon Hakodesh does have phonological rules. Those rules exist regardless of whether the phonology of letters were affected by Galus by way of surrounding existing languages (i.e. vowel shifts in Yiddish), or in one case blatantly ignoring those rules b’shitta because of Maskilim. I have at least 3 sefarim that spell out those rules very clearly.

Last I checked, Israel doesn’t have to comply with the ADA. It’s a different country.
And we’re probably only hearing half of the story, like usual.

@philosopher – I was actually speaking to the OP, whose barely concealed racism is showing once again. Sorry for not being sufficiently clear.

You can cite whatever rulings you want.

Keep in mind: (1) the contentiousness of the issue; (2) the fact that Radvaz and Rav Ovadia are sufficient to rely upon, even if some sort of giyur lechumra or formal renunciation of Karaism is required; and (3) keep in mind that there are two Ethiopian communities in question here, the larger of the two definitely being safek akum and the other one being more likely Karaites. But I’m no expert and this is definitely above my pay grade.

Again, no issues with you at all. My issue is the barely concealed racism and bigotry that the OP constantly spews, as well as his blatant disrespect of anyone who is not Yeshivish/Chassidish. It’s tired, old, childish, divisive and quite frankly irritatingly stupid.

We have one – it’s called the Misrad HaDatot – and it doesn’t work very well because of power politics.

“I find in Israel there is animosity toward “frum Anglos”.

Total bunk. It’s very clear that most of the folks here don’t interact with the average Israeli. But that’s no surprise considering most of y’all limit yourselves to Anglo areas (i.e. Jerusalem, Bet Shemesh, etc.) and don’t even attempt to venture out to non-Anglo enclaves. Y’all are pontificating based on an abysmal lack of evidence. (After living in Israel for more than a decade, living well outside of what I call the “Anglo Bubble”, I can speak pretty authoritatively about this.)

As for “לך עבוד אלהים אחרים” – I would be smart to “מדבר שקר תרחק” and stop acting like a רוכל and מוציא שם רע with regard to nearly 7-8 million of your fellow Jews.

A few things:
1) It’s just easier to go OTD if you’re MO because they are better equipped to handle the change. Charedim have a significantly harder time, which is why you hear about it.
2) I’m willing to bet that if you look at the Orthoprax numbers in the Charedi world, it’s probably nearly the same as the OTD numbers in the MO world.
3) Keep in mind that MO schools more often than not have a significant percentage of students that are not religious in the slightest, but are there because their parents want them to have some sort of Jewish identity. I can think of at plenty of high schools that are like this. The students who are actually Orthodox usually goto schools with a significant Orthodox population (i.e. UMD, YU/Stern, NYU, UPenn, etc.).
4) @Always ask the questions – You can also ask what good post-high school Yeshiva is at all if this is the case.
5) MO kids who want to go OTD are usually halfway there by the time they finish high school. College is basically their time to actually go OTD. Again, I know several people like this.

A few things:
1) Calm down.
2) Bennett and Shaked are doing whatever they see as being politically expedient, like any other politician.
3) Lapid’s only issue is that he’s Tommy’s son and can’t help himself. Aside for his anti-religious biases, he’s not nearly as left as you think he is.
4) There really hasn’t been a true left-winger in years. Peres was probably the last of his kind (and thank G-d for that).
5) Liberman as Finance Minister can be a blessing in disguise.
6) You very clearly don’t understand how it works in Israel. The Likud, having the most votes, had the first opportunity to try to form a government. They weren’t able to, simply because they won’t replace Bibi for whatever reason. Yesh Atid, the party with the next largest number of votes, got to the next attempt form a government, and it appears they succeeded. To be more clear: The ability to form a governing coalition matters, not necessarily the number of votes. It’s sort of akin to the electoral college – you vote and your vote matters, but in the end, the electoral college decides who wins, not the individual. So stop whining about percents. A government was formed after two years of instability. End of discussion. You can hate it all you want. It is what it is.
7) So there will be a minority government. Israel thankfully survived previous minority governments, it will G-d willing survive this one. Just like how America survived Trump and will G-d willing survive Biden.
8) Bennett is sufficiently orthodox, contrary to your extreme biases.
9) The day there is a Charedi prime minister is the day a democratic form of government dies in Israel.
10) Lastly: Have you ever considered the implications of a Halachik state? What that actually means? I doubt you – or anyone on this website – would be willing to go along with that. Especially having grown up with the amount of freedom you had in America and have while currently living in America.

Absolutely. Just plan carefully.

@CTLAWYER – I know you aren’t a troll, I was just wondering if you were trolling in your response. There’s a difference. Relax.

I’m well aware of what lawyers have to do, translators have to do the same thing.

Being from Atlanta and having a bit of knowledge regarding Ebenezer and its reverends post-MLK, I would say: He is at best apathetic. He is most likely akin to most of that population in Atlanta – borderline antisemitic and anti-Israel*. At worst, he’s both.

*There obviously are exceptions, I just don’t believe he is one of them, especially when he defends the likes of Jeremiah Wright and his compadres.

From the perspective of an Israeli-American in”occuped territory”:

There’s no way to definitively know one way or another whether Biden will act like his predecessor or forge his own path. But, keeping that in mind:
1) One could safely assume that Biden will not do much in Israel’s favor when all his advisors served under Obama.
2) Biden has to contend with a fairly strong progessive wing in his own party. Who says that part of the party won’t put extreme pressure that he will fold under? Also, isn’t his VP part of that progressive wing? That would indicate a problem for Israel.
3) I question whether Biden will last the 4 years and if at some point, the planet will have to contend with a President Harris.
4) Then again, if the Republicans keep the Senate, it could just end up being a stalemate for 4 years.

At the end of the day, just daven that the US government keeps its senses. Lord knows we’re doing that here in Israel (because the country is flying by the seat of its pants without any sort of plan for the near or distant future).

@Anongirl – First of all, mazel tov. Second, I’m a man. Third, I got married at 25, which is about average. Fourth, thanks for judging. I’m from OOT and where I’m from, all the girls are sent to Baltimore and New York to get married and are strongly discouraged from dating anyone local. Rare is the local Shidduch (I only know of one off-hand). That meant I had to resort to dating websites and Shadchanim. You may be too young to be familiar with Frumster and Saw You at Sinai. I met my wife through the former while getting constantly rejected on the latter. Shadchanim told me to get lost.

In my dating experience, there was always some excuse on the girl’s end and it almost always was due to parental meddling. I always found this out after the fact. To the parents (especially those of Rabbinic stock), it didn’t matter that I went to college full-time, worked a full-time job, went to minyan 3x a day and still spent 3-4 hours in the local Beis Midrash at night before going home and doing schoolwork. Never mind that I had life basically figured out by the time I was 23. What mattered was the fact that I wasn’t “mainstream” so I was rejected by parents. And, guess what? Fathers of girls are also obssessed with social standing.

My point: You want to solve the problem? 1) Parents should let their kids date and not get involved unless there is good reason to (i.e., there’s an obvious problem with one of the parties involved, an imminent engagement, etc.). (2) Sometimes the guy who isn’t “mainstream” may be exactly what you’re looking for, even if you don’t think so at the moment. Stop nixing guys who aren’t mainstream.

@Shmil_O Ongar – See above. Actually, I was one of the last people in my social crowd to get married. Also, to be very blunt, 22-23 is young, even if the Chassidish and Yeshivish world thinks that is old.

From my experience dating years ago, both through a Shadchan and through the first frum dating websites:

There is no shidduch crisis. Period. If there is a crisis, it is a problem of extremely meddlesome (and incredibly selfish) parents as well as young adults maturing much later in life.

Which army, Israeli or otherwise?

In any event, Rav Yosef Zvi Rimon’s Hilchot Tzavah likely addresses the question, although it may be limited to the Israeli army as opposed to any other army.

We will unfortunately not be in Shul and for the first time in years, I will not be leining. I’m asthmatic and have terrible allergies that make mask wearing extremely difficult after about 45 minutes. There are public shofar blowings all over the city at various times (we live in israel), we’ll go to one of them.

@CTLAWYER

And my point, which I was trying to make delicately , is that quite bluntly, your privately held land – as well as that of others – is completely and utterly irrelevant to the thread.

The OP asked about buying land.

You and I both know that privately held land is impossible to get ahold of unless you’ve got a ton of money, and that privately owned land usually stays within the family (you’re proof of that yourself – I assume your property in Herzliya Pituach will be passed on to your kids, grandkids, etc.). People who do not have a ton of money or whose family did not buy land during the Mandate Period don’t have a stone’s chance in you-know-what of buying private land today, unless they go into Arab ruled areas and claim land as their own (and good luck with that brainless idea). This doesn’t need to be said. I don’t know the OP’s financial situation but more than likely she can’t buy the sort of land you’re talking about. So again, your case is irrelevant.

What i said before still stands.

Unless the OP is a multi-millionaire, she’ll end up spending a couple million shekels for a 99-year lease on a piece of property. The exception maybe if she buy a farm, but to the best of my knowledge, those are also owned by the JNF.

Not possible. Everything is owned by the JNF/KKL. At most, if you buy a semi-detached/detached home – or even an empty lot – you’ll get a 99 year lease from them.

My aunt had a bunch of surgeries to correct scoliosis. Long recovery time from what I know.

Linguist here.

I could write something up, but something tells me that it would offend 90% of the posters here and probably not worth the flack I would receive. BTW, there’s a whole branch of linguistics devoted to this.

That being said, in short – without offending anyone’s beliefs: For any reading of Hebrew, look at the surrounding languages and their evolution. The surrounding languages caused the emergence of the Jewish vernacular in said area. Any evolution in those languages – including that of the Jewish vernacular – changed the phonology of Hebrew in that area.

With the exception of the rednecks from Eastern Europe, it’s basically agreed that the Teimanim are considered to have the most “authentic” reading of Hebrew.

Also, I contest the statement that the Litvish reading is original American – the Yekkes and Dutch Portuguese were in the US before the Litvaks and Chassidim.

I haven’t gotten the flu shot since 8th grade when I got it and missed almost a month of school (and failed 2 bechinas for high school as a result). May get it this year, depending on what the Misrad HaBriut says about the expected severity this year.

Having grown up “OOT’ (a most offensive term) and having seen how NYers, NJers and Philadelphians ruined the community, there is nothing in the world that could entice me to move to the Tri-State area.

Why on earth not?