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yichusdik: You keep repeating yourself. That doesn’t make your argument any less wrong.
When someone tells me that its the aimless, the young, those who won’t listen to guidance who perpetrate this, I first ask, are you sure? How are you sure?
How are you sure otherwise? You aren’t. You built up a tower of unsubstantiated assumptions.
No, we can only conclude that these kids don’t listen to Daas Torah or any rabbis for that matter, even though Chareidim do.
It’s not the corrupted YIVO language of the seculars, but it certainly is Yiddish.
yichusdik: Please provide substantiation for your unsubstantiated assumptions that these kids a) have a rabbi b) listen to any rabbi c) that the rabbis haven’t warned them against this behavior and d) were physical when reports indicate they were only verbal.
yichusdik: Tell me, does everyone in your shul and on in your neighborhood listen to the rabbi? Do none of them do things the rabbi is opposed to? Don’t be a sheep. Practically no rabbi today can control everyone. There are always outcasts who listen to no one. In your neighborhood as well. They don’t reflect badly on your rabbi anymore than these outcasts reflect on the rabbis in their neighborhood. They have no rabbis.
The story on the main site says the kids were only yelling at him and did not touch him.
And some of these kids don’t listen to any rabbis. They are out for a chill and couldn’t care less if the rabbis are against it. The rabbis can (and do) talk from today until tomorrow against it, and these hang-out kids don’t care or listen. There’s nothing the rabbis can do. So, please, do not blame them as they bear absolutely zero responsibility. No more than you do. These kids are as apt to listen to you as they are to the rabbis who they do not take direction from despite what you may think.
Wouldn’t driving in a car with a date be a bigger yichud problem than an elevator?
And if it is a timing issue, if you take the non-stop express elevator to the top of the Empire State Building, wouldn’t it be too long to avoid a yichud problem since it takes a few minutes and you know it will not make any stops?