Thank you ben levi, I am glad somebody brought up that fact. Which makes things alot simpler. The creation of man al pe torah does not leave any room for doubt that it was not more then 5772 years ago, making sense with scientist claims, that the world was created with long days consisting over time spans of thousands of years, this is a tainah, but lichol hadayis mans existence simply doesn’t go that far. And so well, Peres is a koifer because he can’t be ignorant due to learning in yeshiva, and being frum, until his late teens. But alot of Israelis believing in these claims are amei haratsim
